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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 14 2012 21:19 GMT
#2361
as soon as someone on your team gets a forcestaff ursa becomes worthless
High Risk Low Reward
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
February 14 2012 21:23 GMT
#2362
On February 15 2012 05:56 TheWarbler wrote:
Ursa is no where the best carry. He is mid tier. AM, Void, Spec will wreck ursa.

he is not even close to mid tier, she* is an absolute shit tier carry right now, but no 1v1 ursa will rape anyone, the thing is you just dont 1v1 ursa and you win and with ghost scepter and force staff thats not very hard
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 14 2012 21:32 GMT
#2363
On February 15 2012 06:23 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 05:56 TheWarbler wrote:
Ursa is no where the best carry. He is mid tier. AM, Void, Spec will wreck ursa.

he is not even close to mid tier, she* is an absolute shit tier carry right now, but no 1v1 ursa will rape anyone, the thing is you just dont 1v1 ursa and you win and with ghost scepter and force staff thats not very hard

Ulfsaar the Warrior is the fiercest member of an ursine tribe, protective of his land and his people. During the long winters, while the mothers sleep and nurse their cubs, the males patrol the lands above—tireless, vigilant defenders of their ancient ways. Hearing dim but growing rumors of a spreading evil, Ulfsaar headed out beyond the boundaries of his wild wooded homeland, intending to track down and destroy the threat at its source, before it could endanger his people. He is a proud creature with a bright strong spirit, utterly trustworthy, a staunch ally and defender.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#2364
OT but I am watching Synderen stream WCIII custom games, shit is hilarious rofl.

WCIII custom games feel so much better then SC2 too t.t
WriterXiao8~~
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
February 14 2012 22:09 GMT
#2365
On February 15 2012 05:12 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 04:14 NB wrote:
On February 15 2012 03:13 ChrisXIV wrote:
On February 15 2012 02:56 NB wrote:
On February 15 2012 02:26 Kipsate wrote:
The new item, heavens halberd is fairly effective against ursa aswell as Ghost sceptre(but ofcourse,becarefull as it will amplyify magic damage taken.

except ursa often get it himself... also the abyssal blade.. those are now core items of ursa so he could basicly 1v5 with heart and BKB Vlad

Holy fed Ursa. Show me a game where the opponents are not complete noobs where you got all those items.

[image loading]

not quite there yet but almost....

Still missing the heart and halberd...

Last game before the servers shut down I played Riki and went 14-0-12...lol. Would be even more if my team wasn't so afraid to enter their jungle, where I spent most of the game and watched Prophet and Chen farm from from the shadows. Using heroes like Riki and Gondar feels like 6-pooling your way to Masters. You own as long as people don't know what to do, and get stomped otherwise.


Riki is a relatively strong hero who doesn't fit well into most pro strategies. There have been cases where he has been picked in pro matches and performed well. Even though he seems like a noob hero, he farms very well thanks to backstab, has high damage output thanks to that + blinkstrike, an early game escape mechanism, and an aoe silence with a large radius at level 4. His main weakness is that he is very fragile and needs to farm survivability items (like most carries), but his damage output is insane and his cloud forces the other team's carries to buy bkb or mkb to reliably do damage in team fights.

Noob rikis sit in the other team's jungle and hope they don't bait or buy wards or dust or gem. Good rikis will join early/mid-game fights where he can pick kills and farm like a champ otherwise. 1 creep wave = 1 hero kill and it's much faster and easier to farm creep waves than it is to scout out and find a hero kill. Porting in and sniping kills then farming is the best way to play him, like any other carry.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 14 2012 22:13 GMT
#2366
On February 15 2012 07:08 Kipsate wrote:
OT but I am watching Synderen stream WCIII custom games, shit is hilarious rofl.

WCIII custom games feel so much better then SC2 too t.t

they are, though most dont have that classic feel of bw
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 14 2012 22:18 GMT
#2367
its cus the custom game system for sc2 sux
so all the good mapmakers don't even bother
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 14 2012 23:05 GMT
#2368
On February 15 2012 07:18 Dead9 wrote:
its cus the custom game system for sc2 sux
so all the good mapmakers don't even bother

pretty much!
the map he is playing right now is named Magecraft in sc2....
all the war3 custom maps could be remade in sc2 with ease but the custom map system is worst than what we had in 1998 so...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 14 2012 23:38 GMT
#2369
On February 15 2012 07:08 Kipsate wrote:
OT but I am watching Synderen stream WCIII custom games, shit is hilarious rofl.

WCIII custom games feel so much better then SC2 too t.t


They're way better. Heros and real skills, and a proper inventory/shop system its way better than the garbage UMS we get in SC2, WC3 had the best by far.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 15 2012 01:12 GMT
#2370
u can very easily have heroes and skills in sc2 as well
the sc2 editor is much more powerful than the wc3 one, the only difference is that there's no reason to make an sc2 map when nobody is going to play it anyway
Defury
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany206 Posts
February 15 2012 01:46 GMT
#2371
Am I the only dota player who finds myself watching LoL a lot, I still watch Dota 2 as well but I can't stand playing lol but found myself watching some TSM guy stream for hours the other day while playing dota
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
February 15 2012 01:56 GMT
#2372
Am I the only dota spectator that never played any dota games? I watched the invitational and I became interested in understanding the game without playing. Can't say it is easy. Now I understand everything other then builds and I can appreciate good combos and pushes.
I really hope dota2 becomes popular. I would watch lol but I dislike how it looks.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
February 15 2012 02:06 GMT
#2373
I started playing LoL to learn the basics of ARTS when Valve announced DotA 2. I'm such a fanboy XD.

DotA so much better. The champions are actually unique and interesting, as well as not having a developer dedicated to ruining everything I love about the game -.-
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9020 Posts
February 15 2012 02:11 GMT
#2374
On February 15 2012 05:48 TheWarbler wrote:
Vanguard or Vlads, phase boots, Pkey, Heart, AC. their is your uras build. BKB if needed before Heart.

What is Pkey?
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 15 2012 02:11 GMT
#2375
On the subject of ursa, this was probably my favorite game so far from the beta,
[image loading]

Just halberd/fearing him in fights for a good portion of it. they did get the first 3 or so rosh kills starting at lvl 1 though.

The last real fight I found hilarious, fighting them in their base while drow killed the last set of racks. Our whole team ended up dead but then so did the racks.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
February 15 2012 02:15 GMT
#2376
On February 15 2012 11:11 Garnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 05:48 TheWarbler wrote:
Vanguard or Vlads, phase boots, Pkey, Heart, AC. their is your uras build. BKB if needed before Heart.

What is Pkey?


HoN - Portkey
DotA - (Kelen's) Blink Dagger
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
danielimotbh
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada130 Posts
February 15 2012 02:53 GMT
#2377
Did anyone get to see the new post yet!? Final concept photos of Lycan, Shadow Demon and Syllabear! D:
They look amazing tbh

http://blog.dota2.com/
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 15 2012 03:00 GMT
#2378
On February 15 2012 11:53 danielimotbh wrote:
Did anyone get to see the new post yet!? Final concept photos of Lycan, Shadow Demon and Syllabear! D:
They look amazing tbh

http://blog.dota2.com/


not feeling the lone druid model but the other models look AMAZING
High Risk Low Reward
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
February 15 2012 03:00 GMT
#2379
I'm confused. Are they implying they're upcoming in the next patch, or that they're upcoming as in "whenever Valve feels like it."
danielimotbh
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada130 Posts
February 15 2012 03:04 GMT
#2380
Yeah, the human model for Syllabear looks alot like Zeus tbh.

@beef: they never said the next patch so I'm assuming it's just going to be in a patch coming some time soon. Maybe this week's, maybe the next.
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