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Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
September 10 2012 00:42 GMT
#41
Filled out the rest of for the 4pl, if someone can check the pending changes.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/4PL_Play4Dota2/2012/10
spaceG
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany304 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 05:08:03
September 10 2012 04:37 GMT
#42
On September 09 2012 23:30 ZEEEPh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 07:36 salle wrote:
@ZEEEPh yeah that seems like a good thing to show, also the kind of timelines that Wikipedia has could illustrate this perhaps, not sure if theres a self evident sollution for how to show it simply without the Former-list becomes too complex.

this ideia occured to me while seeing the coL team page, where the former monkey business team was in the same place as former players from the actual team. someting like "former monkey business" or something in that line of thought. i can try and think of something more useful and clear, if it's not that useless and confusing

Check out my User Page ( http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/User:SpaceG ), I tried some stuff. Let me know if you like it / how you would change it.

I put it on the following pages as well but they're still pending so you gotta log in or wait till someone approves to see it:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Quantic_Gaming http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Meet_Your_Makers http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Natus_Vincere http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Fnatic http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Natural_9
ZEEEPh
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal97 Posts
September 10 2012 09:02 GMT
#43
On September 10 2012 13:37 spaceG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 23:30 ZEEEPh wrote:
On September 09 2012 07:36 salle wrote:
@ZEEEPh yeah that seems like a good thing to show, also the kind of timelines that Wikipedia has could illustrate this perhaps, not sure if theres a self evident sollution for how to show it simply without the Former-list becomes too complex.

this ideia occured to me while seeing the coL team page, where the former monkey business team was in the same place as former players from the actual team. someting like "former monkey business" or something in that line of thought. i can try and think of something more useful and clear, if it's not that useless and confusing

Check out my User Page ( http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/User:SpaceG ), I tried some stuff. Let me know if you like it / how you would change it.

I put it on the following pages as well but they're still pending so you gotta log in or wait till someone approves to see it:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Quantic_Gaming http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Meet_Your_Makers http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Natus_Vincere http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Fnatic http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Natural_9

yeap, that's what i was thinking.
imo, there is no need for a active squad former members, that could be implied in the former members since the others are listed as a former squad, but with a little bit more polishment that could get really neat
good job!
spaceG
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany304 Posts
September 10 2012 13:18 GMT
#44
On September 10 2012 18:02 ZEEEPh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 13:37 spaceG wrote:
On September 09 2012 23:30 ZEEEPh wrote:
On September 09 2012 07:36 salle wrote:
@ZEEEPh yeah that seems like a good thing to show, also the kind of timelines that Wikipedia has could illustrate this perhaps, not sure if theres a self evident sollution for how to show it simply without the Former-list becomes too complex.

this ideia occured to me while seeing the coL team page, where the former monkey business team was in the same place as former players from the actual team. someting like "former monkey business" or something in that line of thought. i can try and think of something more useful and clear, if it's not that useless and confusing

Check out my User Page ( http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/User:SpaceG ), I tried some stuff. Let me know if you like it / how you would change it.

I put it on the following pages as well but they're still pending so you gotta log in or wait till someone approves to see it:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Quantic_Gaming http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Meet_Your_Makers http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Natus_Vincere http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Fnatic http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Natural_9

yeap, that's what i was thinking.
imo, there is no need for a active squad former members, that could be implied in the former members since the others are listed as a former squad, but with a little bit more polishment that could get really neat
good job!

Well there is, if you check Quantic for example it wouldn't make much sense including Mikey/Solara/Lasthitmagic in the Danish squad.
ZEEEPh
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal97 Posts
September 10 2012 17:10 GMT
#45
On September 10 2012 22:18 spaceG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 18:02 ZEEEPh wrote:
On September 10 2012 13:37 spaceG wrote:
On September 09 2012 23:30 ZEEEPh wrote:
On September 09 2012 07:36 salle wrote:
@ZEEEPh yeah that seems like a good thing to show, also the kind of timelines that Wikipedia has could illustrate this perhaps, not sure if theres a self evident sollution for how to show it simply without the Former-list becomes too complex.

this ideia occured to me while seeing the coL team page, where the former monkey business team was in the same place as former players from the actual team. someting like "former monkey business" or something in that line of thought. i can try and think of something more useful and clear, if it's not that useless and confusing

Check out my User Page ( http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/User:SpaceG ), I tried some stuff. Let me know if you like it / how you would change it.

I put it on the following pages as well but they're still pending so you gotta log in or wait till someone approves to see it:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Quantic_Gaming http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Meet_Your_Makers http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Natus_Vincere http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Fnatic http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Natural_9

yeap, that's what i was thinking.
imo, there is no need for a active squad former members, that could be implied in the former members since the others are listed as a former squad, but with a little bit more polishment that could get really neat
good job!

Well there is, if you check Quantic for example it wouldn't make much sense including Mikey/Solara/Lasthitmagic in the Danish squad.

maybe i didn't explain myself too well but i was exactly thinking of what you have done to quantic's page, good job!
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
September 11 2012 17:29 GMT
#46
can someone finally accept my changes?? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/4PL_Play4Dota2/2012/10#Results

It really pisses me off when I spend the time updating it as fast as possible when the no one gives a shit.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
September 11 2012 18:01 GMT
#47
I am liking the Dota 2 LP. You guys are amazing
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Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
September 12 2012 00:57 GMT
#48
On September 12 2012 02:29 Implenia wrote:
can someone finally accept my changes?? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/4PL_Play4Dota2/2012/10#Results

It really pisses me off when I spend the time updating it as fast as possible when the no one gives a shit.

Due to the Dota 2 wiki being a new wiki the ratio between non-editors and editors is a bit skewed and is causing these delays.

In the future you can drop by our IRC channel and give us the link there for speedier approvals.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
September 12 2012 01:05 GMT
#49
I contributed to things! Im a helpful memeber!
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
ZEEEPh
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal97 Posts
September 12 2012 10:23 GMT
#50
On September 12 2012 10:05 GreYMisT wrote:
I contributed to things! Im a helpful memeber!

someone give this guy his recognition!! :D
kidding, good job!
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
September 15 2012 09:00 GMT
#51
Just a quick question: Are results from recent Dota 1 tournaments going to be included on the wiki?
Road to 6sange
Kasto
Profile Joined May 2010
473 Posts
September 15 2012 10:07 GMT
#52
I'd imagine that's up to us
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
September 15 2012 10:47 GMT
#53
On September 15 2012 19:07 Kasto wrote:
I'd imagine that's up to us

I just meant will it be a Dota wiki or just a Dota 2 wiki.
Road to 6sange
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 23:30:35
September 24 2012 23:27 GMT
#54
Ok got a suggestion for all item pages.
Currently there is a section called "Recommended Heroes".
I think this should be eventually upgraded to have 3 sections, being

1. Necessary on these heroes every game.-----ex: blink dagger in ES
2. Viable on these heroes every game
not necessarily optimal
---------------------------------- ex: desolator on mirana
3. Situational on these heroes, not
necessary and even bad some games
------------ex: shadow blade on tiny

Because right now there are items like blink dagger where 27 heroes are recommended for this item. People new to the game might get the impression that they're playing the game wrong if they don't get a blink dagger.

Sections would clear this stuff up I think.
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
September 25 2012 18:42 GMT
#55
On September 25 2012 08:27 galtdunn wrote:
Ok got a suggestion for all item pages.
Currently there is a section called "Recommended Heroes".
I think this should be eventually upgraded to have 3 sections, being

1. Necessary on these heroes every game.-----ex: blink dagger in ES
2. Viable on these heroes every game
not necessarily optimal
---------------------------------- ex: desolator on mirana
3. Situational on these heroes, not
necessary and even bad some games
------------ex: shadow blade on tiny

Because right now there are items like blink dagger where 27 heroes are recommended for this item. People new to the game might get the impression that they're playing the game wrong if they don't get a blink dagger.

Sections would clear this stuff up I think.

That's exactly what the current system has. Starting, early, core and luxury items? ^^;
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
September 25 2012 21:14 GMT
#56
On September 26 2012 03:42 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 08:27 galtdunn wrote:
Ok got a suggestion for all item pages.
Currently there is a section called "Recommended Heroes".
I think this should be eventually upgraded to have 3 sections, being

1. Necessary on these heroes every game.-----ex: blink dagger in ES
2. Viable on these heroes every game
not necessarily optimal
---------------------------------- ex: desolator on mirana
3. Situational on these heroes, not
necessary and even bad some games
------------ex: shadow blade on tiny

Because right now there are items like blink dagger where 27 heroes are recommended for this item. People new to the game might get the impression that they're playing the game wrong if they don't get a blink dagger.

Sections would clear this stuff up I think.

That's exactly what the current system has. Starting, early, core and luxury items? ^^;

I think you're talking about the recommended items provided in the actual game that have been transposed to LP under the hero section.

I suppose these are similar to what I'm suggesting. I guess at the heart of my question I'm just wondering where we draw the line between what goes on the page of the item as opposed to the page of the hero.
Related to this: how much strategy/discussion belongs on the hero page before you're making an entire guide?

As a contributor I'm just not sure and there aren't guidelines yet.
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 25 2012 21:18 GMT
#57
On September 26 2012 06:14 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 03:42 Bumblebee wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:27 galtdunn wrote:
Ok got a suggestion for all item pages.
Currently there is a section called "Recommended Heroes".
I think this should be eventually upgraded to have 3 sections, being

1. Necessary on these heroes every game.-----ex: blink dagger in ES
2. Viable on these heroes every game
not necessarily optimal
---------------------------------- ex: desolator on mirana
3. Situational on these heroes, not
necessary and even bad some games
------------ex: shadow blade on tiny

Because right now there are items like blink dagger where 27 heroes are recommended for this item. People new to the game might get the impression that they're playing the game wrong if they don't get a blink dagger.

Sections would clear this stuff up I think.

That's exactly what the current system has. Starting, early, core and luxury items? ^^;

I think you're talking about the recommended items provided in the actual game that have been transposed to LP under the hero section.

I suppose these are similar to what I'm suggesting. I guess at the heart of my question I'm just wondering where we draw the line between what goes on the page of the item as opposed to the page of the hero.
Related to this: how much strategy/discussion belongs on the hero page before you're making an entire guide?

As a contributor I'm just not sure and there aren't guidelines yet.

i think the idea is good. one of the reasons i havent touched any of the recommended items is theres no guidance on it

i think guides are personal opinions, recommendations are more widespread behavior that you see in random games besides your own
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
September 26 2012 04:17 GMT
#58
On September 26 2012 06:18 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 06:14 galtdunn wrote:
On September 26 2012 03:42 Bumblebee wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:27 galtdunn wrote:
Ok got a suggestion for all item pages.
Currently there is a section called "Recommended Heroes".
I think this should be eventually upgraded to have 3 sections, being

1. Necessary on these heroes every game.-----ex: blink dagger in ES
2. Viable on these heroes every game
not necessarily optimal
---------------------------------- ex: desolator on mirana
3. Situational on these heroes, not
necessary and even bad some games
------------ex: shadow blade on tiny

Because right now there are items like blink dagger where 27 heroes are recommended for this item. People new to the game might get the impression that they're playing the game wrong if they don't get a blink dagger.

Sections would clear this stuff up I think.

That's exactly what the current system has. Starting, early, core and luxury items? ^^;

I think you're talking about the recommended items provided in the actual game that have been transposed to LP under the hero section.

I suppose these are similar to what I'm suggesting. I guess at the heart of my question I'm just wondering where we draw the line between what goes on the page of the item as opposed to the page of the hero.
Related to this: how much strategy/discussion belongs on the hero page before you're making an entire guide?

As a contributor I'm just not sure and there aren't guidelines yet.

i think the idea is good. one of the reasons i havent touched any of the recommended items is theres no guidance on it

i think guides are personal opinions, recommendations are more widespread behavior that you see in random games besides your own


I agree, but then I would say that you should attempt to explain the widespread behavior through analysis. But there's that line again of how much is too much.
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 26 2012 04:25 GMT
#59
On September 26 2012 13:17 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 06:18 rabidch wrote:
On September 26 2012 06:14 galtdunn wrote:
On September 26 2012 03:42 Bumblebee wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:27 galtdunn wrote:
Ok got a suggestion for all item pages.
Currently there is a section called "Recommended Heroes".
I think this should be eventually upgraded to have 3 sections, being

1. Necessary on these heroes every game.-----ex: blink dagger in ES
2. Viable on these heroes every game
not necessarily optimal
---------------------------------- ex: desolator on mirana
3. Situational on these heroes, not
necessary and even bad some games
------------ex: shadow blade on tiny

Because right now there are items like blink dagger where 27 heroes are recommended for this item. People new to the game might get the impression that they're playing the game wrong if they don't get a blink dagger.

Sections would clear this stuff up I think.

That's exactly what the current system has. Starting, early, core and luxury items? ^^;

I think you're talking about the recommended items provided in the actual game that have been transposed to LP under the hero section.

I suppose these are similar to what I'm suggesting. I guess at the heart of my question I'm just wondering where we draw the line between what goes on the page of the item as opposed to the page of the hero.
Related to this: how much strategy/discussion belongs on the hero page before you're making an entire guide?

As a contributor I'm just not sure and there aren't guidelines yet.

i think the idea is good. one of the reasons i havent touched any of the recommended items is theres no guidance on it

i think guides are personal opinions, recommendations are more widespread behavior that you see in random games besides your own


I agree, but then I would say that you should attempt to explain the widespread behavior through analysis. But there's that line again of how much is too much.

nothing in dota is too much really, unless you make it overly verbose
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
September 26 2012 05:29 GMT
#60
Well its not exactly practical to write up a guide's worth of info for each hero and item.
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
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