Recommended items: do we want to be copy-pasting Valve's defaults, or shall we try to improve them? There's very few heroes where I actually like the default recommendations, but there's also a lot of room for opinion here...

Pholon

Netherlands6142 Posts

October 07 2012 21:46 GMT

#82

Rather than just lists I'd like to see some kind of rhethoric for starting items. Multiple possible of course. Preferably with a link to where you got the idea.

salle

Sweden5554 Posts

October 07 2012 21:49 GMT

#83

I assume some items are role dependant. And it could be a good idea to try and make that more clear than what the valve copy-paste currently does. Do you have any suggestion for how to do that, while perhaps still keeping the valve suggestions on the page, even if in a collapsed table?

JBright

Vancouver14381 Posts

October 09 2012 00:56 GMT

#84

http://www.playdota.com/guides/603-shopping-guide

How about something like this where it tells you what you can buy with your beginning gold? We can keep this as a separate page and link in in every hero page while keep Valve's default recommendations.

galtdunn

United States977 Posts

October 09 2012 02:13 GMT

#85

On October 08 2012 06:46 Pholon wrote:
Rather than just lists I'd like to see some kind of rhetoric for starting items. Multiple possible of course. Preferably with a link to where you got the idea.

I like this idea, especially on heroes that can viably play a lot of roles. Furion lane =/= furion jungle =/= furion ganker jungle.
Same idea Invoker.

shz

Germany2687 Posts

October 09 2012 08:30 GMT

#86

Aren't there builds for heros out there, which suggest what to buy, what to skill etc.? I think this would be a better idea, to have builds für hero (and link them from the heros page). I it's kinda like the "good against/bad against" thing from Blizzard, which aren't always right, especially as the game evolves.

JBright

Vancouver14381 Posts

October 09 2012 17:17 GMT

#87

On October 09 2012 17:30 shz wrote:
Aren't there builds for heros out there, which suggest what to buy, what to skill etc.? I think this would be a better idea, to have builds für hero (and link them from the heros page). I it's kinda like the "good against/bad against" thing from Blizzard, which aren't always right, especially as the game evolves.

Guides can be found on playdota but quite a few of them are outdated (or at least haven't been updated in months). The most reliable way to get skills orders and item builds would be asking pro players or someone with a lot of experience.

myopia

United States2928 Posts

October 10 2012 01:43 GMT

#88

I ask for my login to be remembered (for up to a day), but it resets every time I close my browser. Is this intended behavior?

Implenia

Austria3846 Posts

October 10 2012 08:48 GMT

#89

Is there a list of old tournaments that have to be added?

salle

Sweden5554 Posts

October 10 2012 11:05 GMT

#90

On October 10 2012 10:43 myopia wrote:
I ask for my login to be remembered (for up to a day), but it resets every time I close my browser. Is this intended behavior?

Not sure, I'll kick the question up the chain. However the frequent log-ins is intended (to keep the stress on the servers to a minimum) and thus part and parcel of being a contributor of Liquipedia.

myopia

United States2928 Posts

October 11 2012 03:43 GMT

#91

I'm finding errors in the right hand stat boxes (or whatever they're called) but don't see a way to edit them. How should we address them? I've just been making comments on the relevant talk page.

and as I post this I finally figure it out. nevermind.

salle

Sweden5554 Posts

October 11 2012 16:09 GMT

#92

Infoboxes, they are found if you click the edit tab at the top of the page, (soon we'll also put in an edit link on the box in question itself). Taking Ethereal Blade as an example, this is what the input code looks like for that template.

{{Infobox Item
|itemname=Ethereal Blade
|itemcost=4900
|itemicon=ethereal blade
|itemtext=A flickering blade of a ghastly nature, it is capable of dealing damage in both magical and physical planes.
|str=10
|agi=40
|int=10
|hp=
|mana=
|hpregen=
|manaregen=
|armor=
|evasion=
|resistance=
|damage=
|attackspeed=
|movespeed=
|use=
|active=Ether Blast
|passive=
|category=
|itemtype=Weapon
|shop=Main Shop
|recipe={{Recipe
|item=ethereal blade
|topitems=
|topitem1=
|topitem2=
|topitem3=
|topitem4=
|topitem5=
|topitem6=
|bottomitems=2
|bottomitem1=eaglesong
|bottomitem2=ghost scepter
|bottomitem3=
|bottomitem4=
|bottomitem5=
|bottomitem6=
}}
}}

myopia

United States2928 Posts

October 12 2012 23:37 GMT

#93

Right now heroes have sections for external links, and sections for guides. Since guides are always external links*, should we combine these two sections?

*unless creating guides pages is in the works?

salle

Sweden5554 Posts

October 12 2012 23:49 GMT

#94

On October 13 2012 08:37 myopia wrote:
Right now heroes have sections for external links, and sections for guides. Since guides are always external links*, should we combine these two sections?

*unless creating guides pages is in the works?

Yeah you can make the Guides a sub header of external links
so
== External Links ==
=== Guides ===

blahz0r

3030 Posts

October 12 2012 23:52 GMT

#95

I had ideas regarding this but haven't really put in the work to see how it would end up or discussed with others to see which option would be best. A while back I wanted to put someone's guide on the wiki but didn't have enough time to implement it properly so I ended up just putting a link in the end. =x

Tabs with guides
A guide section towards the bottom of the hero pages separated by another level of header
Just posting a simple link to the guides written on TL

Those would be options I would do for having guides for hero/item pages.

myopia

United States2928 Posts

October 13 2012 00:04 GMT

#96

I think it makes more sense to keep guides external. People in general spend more time browsing TL than they do LP, so posting guides here nets more exposure. Plus, TL being a forum and all, it encourages feedback and discussion of these guides. Then there's the rest of the non-TL world writing their own guides, that we'd only be able to link to. May as well keep them all as links.

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34503 Posts

October 13 2012 00:06 GMT

#97

On October 13 2012 08:52 blahz0r wrote:

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Tabs with guides
A guide section towards the bottom of the hero pages separated by another level of header
Just posting a simple link to the guides written on TL

Those would be options I would do for having guides for hero/item pages.

I vote the option where you just have a subsection on the right for 'guides on TL' where they are all linked. Makes it easier for authors to maintain just one guide rather than have to maintain both a bb-code format and a liquipedia format of guide. It took some effort for me to convert mine.

Implenia

Austria3846 Posts

October 15 2012 20:52 GMT

#98

Did some edits, if someone could check them:
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/index.php?title=4PL_Play4Dota2&stable=0&shownotice=1&fromsection=Tournaments
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/4PL_Play4Dota2/2012/12#Results
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/We_haz_Asian

What are the criterias to be accepted as a liquipedia person so you don't have to wait for verification?

pPingu

Switzerland2892 Posts

October 15 2012 21:34 GMT

#99

On October 16 2012 05:52 Implenia wrote:
Did some edits, if someone could check them:
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What are the criterias to be accepted as a liquipedia person so you don't have to wait for verification?

After enough edits, you will be automatically promoted to editor and your edits will be auto reviewed (I ve personally seen it happen between 4 bronze coins and 2 silver coins most of the time)

You can also be promoted by someone but only in very special occasions

TheEmulator

28100 Posts

October 15 2012 21:40 GMT

#100

On October 16 2012 06:34 pPingu wrote:

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After enough edits, you will be automatically promoted to editor and your edits will be auto reviewed

You can also be promoted by someone but only in very special occasions

I think it is edits and time. I know a guy who didn't even have a silver and got autopromoted. I also know people who have got 2-3 silver coins in a couple weeks of editing and not get editor as well.