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The post-TI3 Roster Shuffle thread - Page 122
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
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mnesthes
5433 Posts
On August 30 2013 04:11 andyrau wrote: why do people rate Loda so highly his play is so sloppy compared to truly world class carries - not that he is bad by any means but to rate him as a top 5 is a bit of a stretch. just because his team wins doesn't automatically qualify him as a strong carry, and he plays very poorly from behind. Fear, black, zhou, tc, pajkatt are all contenders for his place in the top 5. >Black, zhou, pajkatt are top 5 worthy lmao what's your definition for world class carry again | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On August 30 2013 04:41 Erasme wrote: loda is #1 west carry you can tell it by the way he doesnt get caught loda is #1 west carry you can tell it by the way that he just won fucking ti3 | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On August 30 2013 04:47 SnowfaLL wrote: True, but its just sad to see Korok go. I think he has the ability to grow more conservative (seems like he was becoming that near TI3 more, sadly TC drafting ruined the team) - so I hate to see Korok go to another team where he is going to beast it up. The issue is that without Korok, Bulba is mid now, and Bulba is not Korok. So that might be a drop off. My main problem with qojqva is the cross-server team.. I don't like that one bit, scared of how it will play out. but a great natures prophet player will help Liquid.. No way they are gonna let bulba go back to mid after how amazing his offlane play is, Qojqva will most likely mid. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On August 30 2013 04:49 teddyoojo wrote: loda is #1 west carry you can tell it by the way that he just won fucking ti3 Because if you win the international, it automatically means you had the best players in their respective roles. (I know you weren't 100% serious.) | ||
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
On August 30 2013 04:50 SkelA wrote: Loda not in top 5? Hes top 2 easy only one better is Burning. I personally like Sylar and Mushi over Loda, but it's not a huge difference between them all. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
Universe Fogged Brax Korok 1437 | ||
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andyrau
13015 Posts
can't greentext here kid gb2 2010 I guess my point is Loda's never a deciding factor. Bulldog and S4 are, but Loda's just the guy with a higher proportion of farm. You never see an Alliance game where their team is losing and you think "well loda has a lot of farm he's going to turn the game around next big fight", even if he farmed all game. He's not a Burning where you KNOW he's going to have an impact; even if the rest of the team dies, Burning's going to shit all over their lineup. Neither is he a xboct or Hao where they almost dictate the flow of the game by playing aggressively or passively. he's just.. there. Which isn't a problem, but unworthy of a top5 status. It's like saying EGM's a top 5 support after their TI3 when it's really the combination of the team that ties everything together. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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renfree
4485 Posts
Can you imagine Na`Vi w/o XBOCT? nope. Can you imagine DK w/o BurNIng? nope. Can you imagine BurNIng w/o DK? certainly. Can you imagine Alliance w/o Loda? certainly. | ||
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
On August 30 2013 04:47 SnowfaLL wrote: True, but its just sad to see Korok go. I think he has the ability to grow more conservative (seems like he was becoming that near TI3 more, sadly TC drafting ruined the team) - so I hate to see Korok go to another team where he is going to beast it up. The issue is that without Korok, Bulba is mid now, and Bulba is not Korok. So that might be a drop off. My main problem with qojqva is the cross-server team.. I don't like that one bit, scared of how it will play out. but a great natures prophet player will help Liquid.. Woa saying TC's drafting ruined the team...Thats a little bit of a streak and a harsh statement. I get that he didn't do the best at drafting but the game is more than drafting (Yes it can hurt you quite a bit but you still have to play the game) | ||
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treeqt
Germany237 Posts
On August 30 2013 04:50 SkelA wrote: Loda not in top 5? Hes top 2 easy only one better is Burning. Mushi is definitely better, Sylar and Hao are debatable. On August 30 2013 05:06 Spicy_Curry wrote: EGM is a top 5 support. And so is Akke, nerf pls. On August 30 2013 04:57 andyrau wrote: can't greentext here kid gb2 2010 I guess my point is Loda's never a deciding factor. Bulldog and S4 are, but Loda's just the guy with a higher proportion of farm. You never see an Alliance game where their team is losing and you think "well loda has a lot of farm he's going to turn the game around next big fight", even if he farmed all game. He's not a Burning where you KNOW he's going to have an impact; even if the rest of the team dies, Burning's going to shit all over their lineup. Neither is he a xboct or Hao where they almost dictate the flow of the game by playing aggressively or passively. he's just.. there. Which isn't a problem, but unworthy of a top5 status. It's like saying EGM's a top 5 support after their TI3 when it's really the combination of the team that ties everything together. The only reason Loda is a top 5 carry is that he has a ridiculous hero pool and makes the drafts super easy for his team. To me everyone else in this team is the best in the world on his respective position, Loda is just playing his part in making them get their stuff. Of course he isn't too shabby but he isn't truly exceptional either. I'd only put him over XBOCT because of his consistency. On August 30 2013 04:11 andyrau wrote: Fear, black, zhou, tc, pajkatt are all contenders for his place in the top 5. They can be but as of right now they really aren't, except for TC. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
kp makes their final roster addition and the whole threads talking about loda | ||
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treeqt
Germany237 Posts
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 30 2013 05:20 treeqt wrote: because it's not too shocking at this point and everyone has pretty much accepted aui as a part of kp like a week ago already idk fogged talked in his interviews like parts of dignitas was staying together they were also looking at sniping FATA from mouz which would give them significantly less server and travel issues than AUI still hopefully this means they attend MLG | ||
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Daaktard
Sweden380 Posts
On August 30 2013 05:15 treeqt wrote: The only reason Loda is a top 5 carry is that he has a ridiculous hero pool and makes the drafts super easy for his team. To me everyone else in this team is the best in the world on his respective position, Loda is just playing his part in making them get their stuff. Of course he isn't too shabby but he isn't truly exceptional either. I'd only put him over XBOCT because of his consistency. I think you hit the head on the nail here. Loda's not bad nor amazing, but his flexibility helps his team immensly. I personaly believe that this is more important in the meta right now than playing a few heroes really well. Alliance wouldn't be the same without him. Loda carries his team, but in an entirely different way. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
tc is a weaker version of loda (way) | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
but, Loda is.. Probably the weakest carry in a tri-vs-tri scenario i've seen. In general [A] doesn't seem to handle aggro tris that well, especially if they don't have chen | ||
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