EPTOn August 24 2013 20:40 Kipsate wrote:
Someone should make an infographic of all these rumours.
Someone should make an infographic of all these rumours.
We can call it...
a disinfographic.
The post-TI3 Roster Shuffle thread - Page 101
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
We can call it... a disinfographic. | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On August 25 2013 07:39 zaii wrote: interesting so if Qojqva really goes to Liquid Kaipi will be trying to pick up Aui. Leaving dignitas with only 2 players, Universe and fogged. Could definitely see Dignitas picking up Korok, Brax, and 1437. We shouldn't read too much into the way pros play together on stream. 3 days ago Demon was playing with universe and qojqva against Ixmike, 7ingmad and Artezzy. They just play around with their friends, nothing more. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On August 25 2013 09:02 Diavlo wrote: We shouldn't read too much into the way pros play together on stream. 3 days ago Demon was playing with universe and qojqva against Ixmike, 7ingmad and Artezzy. They just play around with their friends, nothing more. not basing it on the stream, but the pieleidie interview, saying if Qojqva goes to liquid they will try to court Aui. | ||
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Lodasrecedinhairline
United Kingdom165 Posts
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On August 25 2013 09:34 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote: Aui_2000 just mentioned on his stream that he might take a break from competitive dota2 for a year so he might not be at TI4. disappointing but best of luck to him | ||
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treeqt
Germany237 Posts
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yyfpulls
United States2185 Posts
On August 25 2013 09:19 zaii wrote: not basing it on the stream, but the pieleidie interview, saying if Qojqva goes to liquid they will try to court Aui. They are also trying to get FATA if qojqva is taken. | ||
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Nocticate
Vatican City State2902 Posts
looks like Mouz might just be Black+4 again. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
On August 25 2013 09:34 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote: Aui_2000 just mentioned on his stream that he might take a break from competitive dota2 for a year so he might not be at TI4. If there is a TI4! | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
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LaiShin
Australia978 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/sheevergaming Hmmm | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
If there is no ti4, valve would erase all the goodwill they have received over the years in an instaneous second. The esports community would be up in arms, etc. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On August 25 2013 15:12 ptbl wrote: If there is no ti4, valve would erase all the goodwill they have received over the years in an instaneous second. The esports community would be up in arms, etc. Why are they obligated to run a tournament that loses them millions forever? If they aren't obligated to run it forever, why would they erase all their built up good will by not holding a TI4? | ||
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PotatoFury
Philippines705 Posts
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On August 25 2013 15:14 motbob wrote: Why are they obligated to run a tournament that loses them millions forever? If they aren't obligated to run it forever, why would they erase all their built up good will by not holding a TI4? 1. They didn't lose that much money on TI3 2. Its called a marketing budget 3. It creates more value in the long run with the steam market, chests, and new players, as well as spreading interest in comp dota, and therefore tickets for tournaments, and pennants for team, all of which are profit for valve why wouldn't they hold TI4 | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On August 25 2013 15:14 motbob wrote: Why are they obligated to run a tournament that loses them millions forever? If they aren't obligated to run it forever, why would they erase all their built up good will by not holding a TI4? As long as LoL holds Worlds every year, valve can't afford to not hold TIs. It's like an arm's race. Whoever blinks first loses. More mobas will be coming out in the future like blizzard all stars. TIs is what differentiate dota from other games. It's like its own brand. Why would you destroy it when you built it up fir years. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On August 25 2013 14:31 yawnoC wrote: That thought ... I don't want to think it. Theres going to be a TI4 - 100% sure. 2GD has said, in an interview after TI2, that valve already told him, that they're going to do it at least 2 more times [So TI3 / TI4 was already confirmed a year ago]. | ||
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betamale
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sazon
Brazil4 Posts
On August 25 2013 15:14 motbob wrote: Why are they obligated to run a tournament that loses them millions forever? If they aren't obligated to run it forever, why would they erase all their built up good will by not holding a TI4? Are you fucking nuts? TI payed itself(and they probally got loads of return) just with compendiuns. The Prize pool is nothing for a company like Valve. Oh yeah, and let's not forget that the revenue they make from the stream is absolutly insane. Valve want to do TI's as long as they exist. The only possiblity for no "TI4" is that if Valve decides to use a League system like WCS and LCS. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On August 25 2013 15:20 Shaella wrote: 1. They didn't lose that much money on TI3 2. Its called a marketing budget 3. It creates more value in the long run with the steam market, chests, and new players, as well as spreading interest in comp dota, and therefore tickets for tournaments, and pennants for team, all of which are profit for valve why wouldn't they hold TI4 I don't understand what in my posts you are replying to. I never asked why Valve would want to run a TI4, nor did I argue that they shouldn't. Nevertheless, since we're on the subject, let me just point out that there is no way that Valve didn't lose millions on TI3, unless you count Compendium purchases, in which case they probably only lost a little bit. Let's think about the expenses: - Rent a big concert hall for a week, hire some outside staff to act as ushers for that week. - Hire a huge production crew and rent equipment for one week. - Fly a bunch of people to Seattle, often from countries from which plane tickets are very expensive. - Host a bunch of people in a downtown Seattle hotel for a week. - Build a stage (not from scratch, admittedly) - Put a bunch of Valve employees to work organizing/running the event and not building value for the company (opportunity cost). - Prize pool - Misc expenses (food for players / advertising for the event itself) And the revenues: - Secret shop sales (which come to think of it would be considerable) So, yes, it cost millions to run. Unless you have some source that says otherwise? EDIT: Let me reiterate: If you read my posts carefully you will see that I am not arguing that it is unlikely that Valve will host TI4. Nor am I arguing that it is not in their best interest to do so. | ||
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