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On September 18 2013 04:36 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2013 04:35 Mauldo wrote: So that they can just turn their back on this scene like they did SC2? No thanks. I'll stick to DH, BtS, D2L, and any of the other leagues that haven't, you know, promised to grow a scene as they drove it into the ground. (I have literally no idea). Was MLG one of the main reasons SC2 started losing growth?
i don't think they're responsible for sc2 stagnating so much as they're happy to deprioritize sc2 as it stagnates
as u can see with halo mlg doesnt have much loyalty to games, they just try to host and profit off whats popular at the time
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On September 18 2013 04:39 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2013 04:36 Comeh wrote:On September 18 2013 04:35 Mauldo wrote: So that they can just turn their back on this scene like they did SC2? No thanks. I'll stick to DH, BtS, D2L, and any of the other leagues that haven't, you know, promised to grow a scene as they drove it into the ground. (I have literally no idea). Was MLG one of the main reasons SC2 started losing growth? i don't think they're responsible for sc2 stagnating so much as they're happy to deprioritize sc2 as it stagnates as u can see with halo mlg doesnt have much loyalty to games, they just try to host and profit off whats popular at the time That really shouldn't be surprising. MLG isn't really about latching onto games for long periods of time (typically). In the past, their model is about latching onto the popularity of games and providing some LAN tournaments for them.
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On September 18 2013 04:41 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2013 04:39 Kraznaya wrote:On September 18 2013 04:36 Comeh wrote:On September 18 2013 04:35 Mauldo wrote: So that they can just turn their back on this scene like they did SC2? No thanks. I'll stick to DH, BtS, D2L, and any of the other leagues that haven't, you know, promised to grow a scene as they drove it into the ground. (I have literally no idea). Was MLG one of the main reasons SC2 started losing growth? i don't think they're responsible for sc2 stagnating so much as they're happy to deprioritize sc2 as it stagnates as u can see with halo mlg doesnt have much loyalty to games, they just try to host and profit off whats popular at the time That really shouldn't be surprising. MLG isn't really about latching onto games for long periods of time (typically). In the past, their model is about latching onto the popularity of games and providing some LAN tournaments for them.
ya im not saying its an explicitly bad model (unlike some of their other practices) but fans of certain games do get understandably upset when MLG throws them for a loop with their marketing rhetoric
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On September 18 2013 04:41 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2013 04:39 Kraznaya wrote:On September 18 2013 04:36 Comeh wrote:On September 18 2013 04:35 Mauldo wrote: So that they can just turn their back on this scene like they did SC2? No thanks. I'll stick to DH, BtS, D2L, and any of the other leagues that haven't, you know, promised to grow a scene as they drove it into the ground. (I have literally no idea). Was MLG one of the main reasons SC2 started losing growth? i don't think they're responsible for sc2 stagnating so much as they're happy to deprioritize sc2 as it stagnates as u can see with halo mlg doesnt have much loyalty to games, they just try to host and profit off whats popular at the time That really shouldn't be surprising. MLG isn't really about latching onto games for long periods of time (typically). In the past, their model is about latching onto the popularity of games and providing some LAN tournaments for them. Except that they didn't drop SC2, but only decided not to carry for this specific event because there is another event that weekend in NYC. There is no point splitting the viewership and players. There is no point for both events to lose money and viewership.
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You guys are such drama whores, an announcement all around pretty positive and people find the pettiest points to argue. Come on, MLG is doing dota 2, they're doing it 95% right, you can argue about those 5% or just enjoy.
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On September 18 2013 04:51 MrCon wrote: You guys are such drama whores, an announcement all around pretty positive and people find the pettiest points to argue. Come on, MLG is doing dota 2, they're doing it 95% right, you can argue about those 5% or just enjoy. This is what we do in the post season. We don't have any games to watch, so how else are we supposed to entertain ourselves?
All right, all right, I agree with you. But we did go a little r/starcraft.
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You went full /r/starcraft.
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On September 18 2013 05:00 teapoted wrote: You went full /r/starcraft. Hey, we need a little /r/starcraft to remind us how good we have in here in Dota land. And nothing brings out the /r/starcraft like an MLG announcement.
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I wold like to see some up and comers from the chinese scene like New Element rather than the big name teams.
Hope to see some exciting games
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No, open online qualifiers.
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I think he meant at the tournament, but it doesn't seem like there are plans for it.
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Sanya12364 Posts
Let's not ship 3rd tier Chinese teams half way around the world to competely get demolished. Only the big name teams should come for premier competition.
The only issue here is MLG's bridging the gap immediately to tier 1 competition. Give time for MLG to fill out the scene.
IIRC MLG tried to do a ladder before and I don't remember the reception to that.
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very nice but pick up sc2!!!
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On September 18 2013 05:30 Sn0_Man wrote: I think he meant at the tournament, but it doesn't seem like there are plans for it. Well I answered to the "at the tournament" question :o
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On September 18 2013 05:41 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2013 05:30 Sn0_Man wrote: I think he meant at the tournament, but it doesn't seem like there are plans for it. Well I answered to the "at the tournament" question :o Oops I missed your comma. I thought you said "[there will be] no open online qualifiers" 
My bad
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On September 18 2013 00:28 miwi wrote:Nicee... maybe it's DK?  i would be okay with that.
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On September 18 2013 04:39 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2013 04:36 Comeh wrote:On September 18 2013 04:35 Mauldo wrote: So that they can just turn their back on this scene like they did SC2? No thanks. I'll stick to DH, BtS, D2L, and any of the other leagues that haven't, you know, promised to grow a scene as they drove it into the ground. (I have literally no idea). Was MLG one of the main reasons SC2 started losing growth? i don't think they're responsible for sc2 stagnating so much as they're happy to deprioritize sc2 as it stagnates as u can see with halo mlg doesnt have much loyalty to games, they just try to host and profit off whats popular at the time
I'm always the first person to hate on MLG but this is actually smart on their part. DOTA2 is a game where foreigners have actually evened the playing field (at least for now) with their Asian counterparts and IMO DOTA has a much richer history in NA than does Starcraft. Sure, NA has never been a DOTA powerhouse, but the NA DOTA scene is still relatively stronger than the NA Starcraft scene. Expect Alliance + Navi to bring big crowds and lots of personality, just what MLG thrives on.
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Only team missing is KP.
Realistically the top teams coming out of TI3 are Alliance and Navi.
KP has the results pre and post TI3 to deserve a spot over the likes of TL and ESPECIALLY EG.
If you want to go based on internal scrims, then TL deserves the spot, but again, so does KP as reputedly the second strongest scrim team atm.
If you want to go to China for the last spot fine, but then KP REALLY becomes an oversight in front of EG.
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