EPTMLG Columbus to have Fnatic, Alliance, TL, EG, and Na`Vi -…
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DDie
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 18 2013 00:54 DDie wrote: At the very least mods should've merged the threads, the other one had some posts from adam. Agreed, there was some good discussion going on there and some interesting facts. | ||
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StarStruck
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On September 18 2013 00:30 Comeh wrote: American dota gonna show who's the real champs around here. Wait for it.. wait for it.. *Borat pause* not. | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
Would have been even cooler if there was some kind of open bracket qualifier too (instead of just an online qualifier) but I suppose its harder to have entire amateur teams show up as opposed to amateur individuals show up (like in SC2). | ||
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Targe
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andyrau
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
guess we'll just have two for now since I linked this on twitter and adam posted in the other one. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 18 2013 00:59 wuhan_clan wrote: It's not surprising that the teams with the most money are making the trip to Columbus. That both the no1 and no2 finishers at TI3 are playing brings great legitimacy to the Dota 2 event at MLG. Based on team representation alone, MLG has already done a good job. Would have been even cooler if there was some kind of open bracket qualifier too (instead of just an online qualifier) but I suppose its harder to have entire amateur teams show up as opposed to amateur individuals show up (like in SC2). I think qualifiers should be left to the online world before the event, rather than during. It just leads to people complaining about missing matches, not being able to broadcast everything and tons of wasted travel money for no screen time. It is to much of a shit show and not really worth it in the long run. | ||
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treeqt
Germany237 Posts
On September 18 2013 00:33 Plansix wrote: Might not get an invite, since they are not really in the same league as these other teams. I agree, they aren't in the same league as TL/EG. But I don't see how them being a couple leagues above those two teams is a reason not to invite them. On September 18 2013 00:46 miwi wrote: AFAIK MLG isn't flying teams to the event, and all these other teams are backed by an organization that is sending them to Columbus. Will Kaipi be able to make it even if they are invited? I doubt it to be honest and that's a shame because it would have been nice to see Kaipi at an offline event. The only reason nth and EE were able to go to an offline event (DHW) was because they were already backed by Razer back then who paid for their flights (or EE's flight since the others were already in Sweden). I doubt a Chinese team would go to a MLG event if they don't get their flights etc. paid. But then again, Kaipi aren't Chinese so I can see that being the case. | ||
MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
On September 18 2013 01:06 Heyoka wrote: ugh blame Rich for telling me there wasn't a thread and me for being too dumb to notice guess we'll just have two for now since I linked this on twitter and adam posted in the other one. GOD WAY TO GO RICH. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 18 2013 01:07 treeqt wrote: I agree, they aren't in the same league as TL/EG. But I don't see how them being a couple leagues above those two teams is a reason not to invite them. I see what you did there, that was funny. They may be able to pull out games, but if you can't get anyone to pay you to play because your team is a hot mess, it is tough to travel all over the world. The sad truth is you need someone to pay the bills. | ||
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Ravensong170
United States858 Posts
On September 18 2013 00:47 Plansix wrote: Kaipi didn't qualify or take part in TI3, so I think Liquid is a step above them. Second, Kaipi maybe good, but they also are a PR nightmare and have a habit of mouthing off at any given time. If you are putting together a multi million dollar event, sometimes the team that isn't going to be a pain in the ass is the team you want. Edit: And as said above, they don't have anyone to pay for their flights and I think MLG is working with the teams to assist with travel. At the end of the day, they are very talented, but they need to get a sponsor so they can afford to travel. KP wasn't given the opportunity to play at TI3, I don't think you can use the TI berth as that, and TL has a new line-up so referencing their last line up is not exactly an argument. And would not put liquid above KP until we actually see their line-up a real tournament performance with their stable line-up. AND KP had to prove they could attend the SL7 finals if they qualify since they had to drop out because they had no funding, AND the team has received new mice and EE received a NeedForSeat, which means they have probably have a sponsor somewhere, just hasn't been announced. (they also need to wait for AUI's contract with dignitas to expire as well) I don't think KP are a PR nightmare either. EE and Sing have huge followings in the DOTA scene. Having them at a tourney would only raise the incentive to watch, also for potential Alliance vs KP. Its a win win for MLG, and MLG have dealt with plenty worse PR nightmares in the past than what KP could potentially do. And I don't know what mouthing off you mean, unless you are refering to EE/Sing on stream, who don't do anymore mouthing off than Idra/Naniwa(and in tourneys certainly less than they have). KP is the best performing team in the NA/EU scene right now behind Alliance/Na'Vi. So they certainly deserve to be there, and I would say moreso than Fnatic, who have been playing badly over the last month | ||
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teapoted
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On September 18 2013 01:07 treeqt wrote: I agree, they aren't in the same league as TL/EG. But I don't see how them being a couple leagues above those two teams is a reason not to invite them. yeah TL only came in 7th/8th at TI3 winning games no one thought they would, clearly Kaipi is a league above them what with their whole not even getting invited to the quals contain your fanboyism | ||
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IPA
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
But that said, they don't have a sponsor. They don't have management to sort other shit out for them. KP qualified for SL, couldn't go. KP got disqualified from EMS because of mis-management as well basically. They need to get a sponsor and get their shit together. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 18 2013 01:10 Ravensong170 wrote: KP wasn't given the opportunity to play at TI3, I don't think you can use the TI berth as that, and TL has a new line-up so referencing their last line up is not exactly an argument. And would not put liquid above KP until we actually see their line-up a real tournament performance with their stable line-up. AND KP had to prove they could attend the SL7 finals if they qualify since they had to drop out because they had no funding, AND the team has received new mice and EE received a NeedForSeat, which means they have probably have a sponsor somewhere, just hasn't been announced. (they also need to wait for AUI's contract with dignitas to expire as well) I don't think KP are a PR nightmare either. EE and Sing have huge followings in the DOTA scene. Having them at a tourney would only raise the incentive to watch, also for potential Alliance vs KP. Its a win win for MLG, and MLG have dealt with plenty worse PR nightmares in the past than what KP could potentially do. And I don't know what mouthing off you mean, unless you are refering to EE/Sing on stream, who don't do anymore mouthing off than Idra/Naniwa(and in tourneys certainly less than they have). KP is the best performing team in the NA/EU scene right now behind Alliance/Na'Vi. So they certainly deserve to be there, and I would say moreso than Fnatic, who have been playing badly over the last month They have no sponsor, they have no management. Their team went through a couple very public melt downs when players left or they did not get invited to TI3. Why would MLG invite them when they could invite another team that they know will attend without problems? | ||
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Kyhron
United States945 Posts
On September 18 2013 01:10 Shaella wrote: yeah TL only came in 7th/8th at TI3 winning games no one thought they would, clearly Kaipi is a league above them what with their whole not even getting invited to the quals contain your fanboyism Whoa dude contain yours as well. Lets look at the current facts. TL has yet to play with their new line up where as Kaipi has been performing extremely well in Cups and StarLadder lately. Lets also not forget the reason why Kaipi was not invited to TI3 was a roster change right before qualifiers were announced disqualifying them even though they were a favorite to make it through the qualifiers. Even without sponsors they have proven to SL that the could attend the offline finals and they've been winning a bunch of smaller cups and those winnings add up. They could probably be able to make it to MLG if invited | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On September 18 2013 01:21 Kyhron wrote: Well we should ask Adam to call up Envy's mom and see if they will let them go to MLG.Whoa dude contain yours as well. Lets look at the current facts. TL has yet to play with their new line up where as Kaipi has been performing extremely well in Cups and StarLadder lately. Lets also not forget the reason why Kaipi was not invited to TI3 was a roster change right before qualifiers were announced disqualifying them even though they were a favorite to make it through the qualifiers. Even without sponsors they have proven to SL that the could attend the offline finals and they've been winning a bunch of smaller cups and those winnings add up. They could probably be able to make it to MLG if invited | ||
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Denzil
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