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Eeeegor
Profile Joined April 2005
Australia809 Posts
September 18 2013 01:22 GMT
#221
Well this just become stacked... awesome!
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Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 18 2013 01:25 GMT
#222
I'm going to assume mr. Two_down didn't read any of the comments from mlg how they know they fucked up with starcraft and they want to actually support the NA scene here. That is all the more reason they need to invite EG. if you don't like it that is fine, say so and move on. Dont keep shitting up this thread with how "undeserving" you think certain teams are and then argue with people who try to explain why they are invited.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 01:42:43
September 18 2013 01:39 GMT
#223
On September 18 2013 10:25 Snorkle wrote:
I'm going to assume mr. Two_down didn't read any of the comments from mlg how they know they fucked up with starcraft and they want to actually support the NA scene here. That is all the more reason they need to invite EG. if you don't like it that is fine, say so and move on. Dont keep shitting up this thread with how "undeserving" you think certain teams are and then argue with people who try to explain why they are invited.

I was arguing that they were undeserving based on PLAY.

If the goal is to support the NA scene, all the more reason to have KP, the best NA team at the moment, dump Fnatic, Navi, and Alliance, and move on like that. Bring in KP, TL, Dig, and EG, have them insulated in the MLG scene so they look good and dont get dumped on by Alliance and Navi, then down the road throw European teams into the mix.

My point is simply that the EG pickup at the expense of KP, along with bringing in 3 teams from europe (one of whom WILL win the damn thing) goes against any argument that the tournament selections were based on recent results, popular NA teams, or trying to improve the NA scene.

If THAT is your argument, everything MLG has done cuts AGAINST bringing the level of NA dota up.

I mean, if MLG came out and said, these were the biggest teams we could get our hands on for the cheapest, thats fine. But it doesnt change the fact that using those criteria fucks over teams who have strong play, but arent cheap (or riskier investments).

But the criteria for THIS tournament sure as hell wasnt we want the best NA teams, or we want to protect the NA scene.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
September 18 2013 01:42 GMT
#224
An american tournament and people are questioning why they invited the one of the three big american teams (in terms of squad but more importantly in terms of brand)? That's funny.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 18 2013 01:45 GMT
#225
The TL and EG invites are probably because MLG has worked with both org's in the past in other games, and they have large fan bases and mediums to which they can help promote MLG's tournament. Is it bullshit? Well maybe, depends on your point of view, but it makes perfect sense when you consider that above all MLG wants to put on a huge tier 1 event that every Dota fan will watch(and preferably some people who are not yet Dota fans).
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 18 2013 01:51 GMT
#226
KP is not an NA team. they are as much as NA team as NTH was. so i guess alliance is an NA team as well if KP is.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 18 2013 01:52 GMT
#227
On September 18 2013 10:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
KP is not an NA team. they are as much as NA team as NTH was. so i guess alliance is an NA team as well if KP is.

When your scene sucks, you tend to take liberties when claiming teams. 2 NA players is more than good enough for me, and probably quite a few other 'muricans.
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
September 18 2013 01:53 GMT
#228
Guess this only means one thing:

Road to MLG 2. -Kaipi
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 18 2013 01:54 GMT
#229
This is amazing :O

No DK but w/e lol, holy smoke
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Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 18 2013 02:05 GMT
#230
The criteria was they are going to have 4 na teams and 4 teams to bring eyeballs and please the sponsors. When you run your new event the sponsors want to know that you are going to have the best most popular teams that are going to bring the most eyeballs. They could have an na only event, in fact they are at full sail university. But hey I'm done with this thread, carry on.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 18 2013 02:07 GMT
#231
Pretty awesome line up so far!
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 18 2013 02:14 GMT
#232
On September 18 2013 10:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
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On September 18 2013 10:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
KP is not an NA team. they are as much as NA team as NTH was. so i guess alliance is an NA team as well if KP is.

When your scene sucks, you tend to take liberties when claiming teams. 2 NA players is more than good enough for me, and probably quite a few other 'muricans.

No thanks I'll take a proven tier 1 team with liquid thanks. And you at least need a majority of players from one region to claim them for that region, so kp is eu but liquid will stay na if they pick up qojyfa.
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broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
September 18 2013 02:23 GMT
#233
Really disappointed to see EG over Kaipi, should be a good event...I think it sucks for the scene that traditional NA organisations are getting invites over current top teams
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 18 2013 03:16 GMT
#234
On September 18 2013 11:23 broodbucket wrote:
Really disappointed to see EG over Kaipi, should be a good event...I think it sucks for the scene that traditional NA organisations are getting invites over current top teams

But [A] and Na'Vi are invited. Unless you mean Tong Fu or DK? Because there are way more teams in line before KP, if itself it based. If its not based on merit, then it's what makes the most sense for MLG.
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
September 18 2013 04:19 GMT
#235
Conspiracy theory here:

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What if KP is the new EG?

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nah, i'm just kidding


I think people are getting kinda impatient with Kaipi. Even if they don't end up as that reserve slot, they've got a really good chance of getting to Starladder (teams like EG who've bailed from Starladder LANs before had been punished by not getting a follow up invite, KP's invite means they'd managed to show prove that they're getting a reliable sponsor soon). They're definitely on the road to getting a sponsor soon (again they're one of the top performing teams currently and they have extremely popular players). They probably would be invited to Dreamhack and there's the ESWC qualifiers coming up.

Even if MLG doesn't happen for them, there are plenty of other events to come.
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AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
September 18 2013 06:03 GMT
#236
I'm pretty sure they're already sponsored to an extend, EE got a new Needforseat chair and I heard they all got new mouses recently.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
September 18 2013 07:05 GMT
#237
On September 18 2013 15:03 AwfuL_ wrote:
I'm pretty sure they're already sponsored to an extend, EE got a new Needforseat chair and I heard they all got new mouses recently.

i don't understand why when teams get sponsored it can take like months to be announced who the sponsor is. Seems a waste of resources
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 18 2013 07:41 GMT
#238
On September 18 2013 16:05 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 15:03 AwfuL_ wrote:
I'm pretty sure they're already sponsored to an extend, EE got a new Needforseat chair and I heard they all got new mouses recently.

i don't understand why when teams get sponsored it can take like months to be announced who the sponsor is. Seems a waste of resources

It's probably for the same reason why teams can't immediately announce changes within their roster.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
September 18 2013 07:59 GMT
#239
On September 18 2013 16:41 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 16:05 Shaella wrote:
On September 18 2013 15:03 AwfuL_ wrote:
I'm pretty sure they're already sponsored to an extend, EE got a new Needforseat chair and I heard they all got new mouses recently.

i don't understand why when teams get sponsored it can take like months to be announced who the sponsor is. Seems a waste of resources

It's probably for the same reason why teams can't immediately announce changes within their roster.

i guess. bleh. its just weird.
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nDLSoulFly
Profile Joined December 2011
Malaysia79 Posts
September 18 2013 08:01 GMT
#240
Time to switch back to MLG after stopping SC2! Awesome stuff MLG!
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