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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
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BravoScripT.DK
Denmark230 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GEutQHA.jpg) RIP Nyuuk 34p Wizard | ||
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Rampoon
United Kingdom166 Posts
On May 24 2013 21:59 Rotodyne wrote: I have a level 38 barb, self found. Killing stuff and advancing was starting to get slow because I hadn't found a weapon in about 10 levels. But the ecstasy of finding a cutlass that boosted my DPS from 400 to 700 made self-found all worth it I too was having fun with a self found barb, however i just did something very silly and now my 60(2) old fella is dust  . uff | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
On May 24 2013 14:17 Scrandom wrote: Damn they must have nerfed inferno with no mp so hard, I havent really played since before they added it. I really like how hard it was on release. Just got to inferno on self found characters and I know A1 was easy but that was a joke, nowhere close to dying. I guess next few acts will maybe make me eat my words. To quote myself here because its funny, my friend and I playing our self found first HC chars suffered a casualty. We were in A2 inferno, didnt feel too confident leading up to Belial (we were at zolton) so we decided to farm A1 and I suggest it on MP1 since it was very easy the first time. I didnt know it boosted the monster density so much and we tp'd to fields of misery (inexperience) and my friend died due to lag/1000 monsters that he couldnt escape. My fault for not knowing MP1 would do that, I played another guy for him rushed to lvl 55 so far on the DH but man does it feel like I could die at any second even with prep vault smoke screen. | ||
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serum321
United States606 Posts
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
On May 28 2013 07:32 serum321 wrote: There is a huge difference between a1 mp 0 and a1 mp1, besides the new mob density mobs in a1 mp0 are only lvl 61, once you turn mp on they become lvl 63 on top of the bonus hp and damage from mp. So really you want to farm a1 mp0 until you feel comfortable killing belial and then you can farm a3 mp 0. But you have to be careful, there is still a big difference between a1 and a3. For sure, I feel stupid now it was my fault I suggested it. I wasnt aware of the density thing which is the main reason. As for getting the DH back to 60 man is it scary, so many close encounters. I using prep,smoke screen, vault, companinon bat, hungering arrow and rapid fire. Probably not the best but it seems decent. At Belial now, would suck to die before 60. | ||
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Undercroft
United Kingdom166 Posts
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On May 29 2013 22:22 Bleak wrote: I am playing a level 56 Barbarian on Hell Act 2 with 17k DPS and 24k HP. How much more do I need to enter safely into inferno Act 1 (along with AR gear ofc) triple the hp would be good. 2.5 times more hp would also be ok, but not much less... | ||
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BravoScripT.DK
Denmark230 Posts
On May 29 2013 23:16 Black Gun wrote: triple the hp would be good. 2.5 times more hp would also be ok, but not much less... Survivability isnt about HP, it is about EHP Get alot of armor and all resistance, and about 40k hp, you should be well off. 500+ all res minimum imo | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
On May 29 2013 23:47 BravoScripT.DK wrote: Survivability isnt about HP, it is about EHP Get alot of armor and all resistance, and about 40k hp, you should be well off. 500+ all res minimum imo IMO stay out of inferno till you can gear up at 60, self-found or not. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On May 30 2013 12:12 Eschaton wrote: IMO stay out of inferno till you can gear up at 60, self-found or not. Thanks for the advice but my Barb died at level 59, right after Izual. I didn't have my cooldowns ready and met a Mallet Lord elite pack with Knockback Vortex and Desecrator. I couldn't get out in time to take an health globe as they pulled me in and then killed me. I should have played more carefully, this just feels horrible. I got my all res gear to enter Inferno and everything and to end like this.. Well, I guess I won't be touching hardcore again. 30 hours down the drain doesn't feel like fun. | ||
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BeaSteR
Sweden328 Posts
On May 30 2013 15:37 Bleak wrote: Thanks for the advice but my Barb died at level 59, right after Izual. I didn't have my cooldowns ready and met a Mallet Lord elite pack with Knockback Vortex and Desecrator. I couldn't get out in time to take an health globe as they pulled me in and then killed me. I should have played more carefully, this just feels horrible. I got my all res gear to enter Inferno and everything and to end like this.. Well, I guess I won't be touching hardcore again. 30 hours down the drain doesn't feel like fun. Act 4 should be skipped as much as possible. Difficult monsters there. Ask a friend to boost you if you are close to dying or go back and level in safe places | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On May 30 2013 17:18 BeaSteR wrote: Act 4 should be skipped as much as possible. Difficult monsters there. Ask a friend to boost you if you are close to dying or go back and level in safe places If I had my WotB I would have easily killed them but without it just 5 seconds of 65% less dmg wasn't enough. I kept getting knockbacked, and my Rend heal rune could not keep me up. I chugged a potion, and kept fighting, however they got 2-3 more attacks and knockbacks and I was down to 30-40% of health. I tried to move to a health globe and they pulled me towards them and then killed me. I felt pretty bad yesterday but now I feel like I wanna avenge this death. Already started a Barb, level 6 right now. Thankfully my latest acquired gear through AH was not on me (except my Cindercoat which had pretty good stats for Inferno starting gear) I think I'll treat this death as a learning experience: 1) Never get cocky (I was pretty cocky since I 1-2 shot most stuff including most elites, which made me overconfident) 2) Play Act 4 Hell with others. I don't wanna get to there and die again. 3) Stop playing when sleepy. I was a little bit sleepy last night, that might have contributed to my death. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On May 30 2013 17:18 BeaSteR wrote: Act 4 should be skipped as much as possible. Difficult monsters there. Ask a friend to boost you if you are close to dying or go back and level in safe places lol, ask a friend cuz too hard. :D all you need is a decent weapon, its the most important factor to do damage even in hardcore. most ppl tend to play way too safe, but the longer you fight, the more damage you take as well! feeling pretty comfortable with my WD now, paragon 19 reached, can safely farm mp2 act1 or mp1 act3. started about a month ago from scratch (had 40k gold from a past try^^). If you dont play selffound: try to buy new weapons every 10 levels for about ~10k gold, and you get trough pretty safely will all chars. also, replace gear that is really, really weak for your level, and can be replaced by a way better one for up to 10k gold. Also, already try to bet on low cost but decent lvl 60 gear - thats super important imo as you can safe a shitton of money and already gear up at 60 once you reach it. You can also make your life easier by spending ~50k-80k gold on level 50-52ish for a weapon with > 500 damage, hell will be fairly easy then. Another tip from Nightmare on is to acutally read what affixes the elite packs have before attacking them - this way you can prepare for a fight way better. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On May 30 2013 15:37 Bleak wrote: Thanks for the advice but my Barb died at level 59, right after Izual. I didn't have my cooldowns ready and met a Mallet Lord elite pack with Knockback Vortex and Desecrator. I couldn't get out in time to take an health globe as they pulled me in and then killed me. I should have played more carefully, this just feels horrible. I got my all res gear to enter Inferno and everything and to end like this.. Well, I guess I won't be touching hardcore again. 30 hours down the drain doesn't feel like fun. You really shouldn't buy a significant amount of gear before level 60, level 60 gear is about 100 times better. I generally try to hit 60 in early act 3 on my first character; just run skycrown/stonefort over and over til 60. | ||
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Doomaga
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Think I'm going to continue a Barbarian I have at level 30 based off of your information, but will try wizard if/when I die. Thanks for putting this together Pokebunny. And if you have any extra helpful hints or anything, please let me know. Cheers. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
I just hit lvl 60 with my wd and i used the bats all along the way. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On July 08 2013 06:47 Hryul wrote: you wouldn't bother writing some updates for the skills? I guess zombiebears aren't as hot any longer since they buffed the bats? I just hit lvl 60 with my wd and i used the bats all along the way. They are definitely still the best imo for low geared wd's, you can't survive running in and using bats. | ||
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