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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On July 08 2013 11:18 Hryul wrote: uh ok. I guess then i just played something different. I'm too much of a chicken to "run in" - Thus I neither use soul harvest nor zombiebears. I just stand at a reasonable range and spam bats. (mostly vampire bats b/c the other runes didn't convince me. haven't even bothered to try cloud of bats - dat range) Ah assumed you meant cloud as that's mostly what I see ppl use. I haven't tried other runes myself. | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
On July 08 2013 11:18 Hryul wrote: uh ok. I guess then i just played something different. I'm too much of a chicken to "run in" - Thus I neither use soul harvest nor zombiebears. I just stand at a reasonable range and spam bats. (mostly vampire bats b/c the other runes didn't convince me. haven't even bothered to try cloud of bats - dat range) Are you using gruesome feast / grave injustice spec? you might be surprised how much faster you can finish your runs when you hit soul harvest / some bears in the middle of a big pack, instantly resetting the cooldown on your spirit walk. A1 fields is pretty much ideal for this spec. You need a lifesteal weapon, but that's pretty much required for HC anyway. I personally like to use LMB bears / RMB plague bats when soloing. The dmg from plague bats is good although not as good as cloud of bats, but it has much more range and the dmg keeps procing after you stop channeling. | ||
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
Run that and you'll never die unless you are playing completely recklessly. If you ever get cornered fear and reposition or if spirit walk is on cooldown you can mitigate a ridiculous amount of damage with 100% extra armor assuming you are not pushing your luck on a monster power setting you have no business doing. Most elite packs will get a noticeable movement speed reduction with 80% grasp allowing you to dps better with cloud of bats. BBV is optional but you could easily take dogs with life leech or absorb damage for more survival if you so desire. Not taking soul harvest is completely stupid. Its not only a major damage boost its also an instant heal for when you can't afford to stand still with 2 of its runes and a free 65 resist all when stacked to 5. If damage is high enough there is absolutely no reason to ever remove vengeful as the maximum health you'll get back from siphon is 10k while vengeful doesnt have any kind of limit you'll just leech for whatever damage you deal. The passives all work well for hardcore. gruesome is personal choice for extra dps / mana but grave injustice is a better defensive option specially if you are running high pickup radius (plague tends to kill a lot outside of the default 8 yards). A cheap skorn with good LS will keep you alive forever even through a bad freeze / vortex assuming you had some ticks going on mobs before hand. That's the magic of cloud of bats, it makes life leech a constant stream of health vs cloud of bats's high ticks but completely inconsistent and non existant after a freeze/knockback/vortex while being weak to getting surrounded which grasp takes care of. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
 )Just managed to kill diablo, so I guess progress is done for me. | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
On July 18 2013 06:13 Hryul wrote: mhm thanks for the advice guys. Didn't think I would get that much feedback. I'll try it (with my sc wd first )Just managed to kill diablo, so I guess progress is done for me. Killing the last boss was never the end of 'progress' in diablo. | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
Luckily enough my self-found and other good buys off the AH have pretty sick vit for such a low level. Ironically better than the POS rares people are selling for 400-500k. I just laugh when I see someone selling something for a million. I mean obviously I'm sure once you get a good 60 and start farming for gold and MF then this becomes somewhat irrelevant, but for someone like me who is just jumping in, it makes me lol and rage. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On July 20 2013 07:18 Qwyn wrote: Jeesh mid-level items in the auction house are so fucking over-inflated. How can anyone justify charging millions for them? It's so aggravating sitting on 15 level outdated bracers and being unable to buy new ones with better armor because people somehow feel they can justify charging 300k+ for them. Absolutely fucking ridiculous. Luckily enough my self-found and other good buys off the AH have pretty sick vit for such a low level. Ironically better than the POS rares people are selling for 400-500k. I just laugh when I see someone selling something for a million. I mean obviously I'm sure once you get a good 60 and start farming for gold and MF then this becomes somewhat irrelevant, but for someone like me who is just jumping in, it makes me lol and rage. "Good" AH items at low levels are quite unnecessary, as long as they have some main stat and vit, you're honestly fine. | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
On July 20 2013 07:18 Qwyn wrote: Jeesh mid-level items in the auction house are so fucking over-inflated. How can anyone justify charging millions for them? It's so aggravating sitting on 15 level outdated bracers and being unable to buy new ones with better armor because people somehow feel they can justify charging 300k+ for them. Absolutely fucking ridiculous. Luckily enough my self-found and other good buys off the AH have pretty sick vit for such a low level. Ironically better than the POS rares people are selling for 400-500k. I just laugh when I see someone selling something for a million. I mean obviously I'm sure once you get a good 60 and start farming for gold and MF then this becomes somewhat irrelevant, but for someone like me who is just jumping in, it makes me lol and rage. You're not the target of those sales, it's people who have 100s of millions, are leveling up a new toon, and want to do it quickly. I've sold -16 reduced level shoulders with STR/VIT/AR for 10m, but it's not gear that you need anyway. My advice is to save up your gold for when you hit 60, prices for reasonable gear are actually getting a lot lower recently. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
On July 19 2013 04:58 Eschaton wrote: Killing the last boss was never the end of 'progress' in diablo. I meant "progress(ing through acts)" as the opposite of "farming (for better gear)" | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
On July 20 2013 08:52 Eschaton wrote: You're not the target of those sales, it's people who have 100s of millions, are leveling up a new toon, and want to do it quickly. I've sold -16 reduced level shoulders with STR/VIT/AR for 10m, but it's not gear that you need anyway. My advice is to save up your gold for when you hit 60, prices for reasonable gear are actually getting a lot lower recently. Right I know that I'm not the target of that bullshit, but when 90 percent of good items are priced that way, it's still a bit frustrating. Not everyone has 100m gold >.>. Yeah I know it doesn't matter guys  , what I'm raging at (in a lighthearted way) is how people somehow think anyone is going to buy that stuff when they price it that way. It reduces their market to a select few who have that sort of money. | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
On July 20 2013 09:45 Qwyn wrote: Right I know that I'm not the target of that bullshit, but when 90 percent of good items are priced that way, it's still a bit frustrating. Not everyone has 100m gold >.>. Yeah I know it doesn't matter guys , what I'm raging at (in a lighthearted way) is how people somehow think anyone is going to buy that stuff when they price it that way. It reduces their market to a select few who have that sort of money.Have you tried crafting? It's a good and cheap way to find a nice rare sub-60. | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
On July 20 2013 09:57 Eschaton wrote: Have you tried crafting? It's a good and cheap way to find a nice rare sub-60. Yep, sure have! A good roll saves me from the rage that is the AH, lol. I only go there when I need to fill in the gaps! | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
In the beginning of Act II, btw, just trying to get an estimate for later. Alright, and now I've reached the final stretch before Belial. Level 41, 15K HP, 900 DPS. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
Just trying to get an estimate of what my stats should look like before I run Belial. I know this is being extra safe, but I don't want to lose all my progress! | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
also NM isn't that much of progress | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
I know it may not be a lot of progress for the hardcore heroes , but it is a lot for me <3. I am happy to report that I safely made it through NM Belial! 19K HP, 1800 DPS buffed. Damage-wise, it was an easy fight, but I did come close to dying once. Luckily blowing diamond skin/aggressive pursuit of health-globes made it so I only had to blow one potion. Onwards, to Azmodan! | ||
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
On July 20 2013 09:45 Qwyn wrote: Right I know that I'm not the target of that bullshit, but when 90 percent of good items are priced that way, it's still a bit frustrating. Not everyone has 100m gold >.>. Yeah I know it doesn't matter guys , what I'm raging at (in a lighthearted way) is how people somehow think anyone is going to buy that stuff when they price it that way. It reduces their market to a select few who have that sort of money.I've honestly never bought armor and stuff sub 60. It's pretty easy to gear up with stuff you find. Although I'm am guilty of selling low level gear for a couple hundred k. Not sure why it sells, but it does. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
I did have my first death yesterday though, at least it was on an alt. I like to raid WoW and play D3 at the same time. I'm guessing I aggroed a random zombie from a distance at some point, so while thinking it was safe to tab out, I got killed by a single fat zombie bastard =_=. RIP lvl 8 Barb. | ||
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