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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
April 25 2013 19:51 GMT
#61
On April 25 2013 10:30 calgar wrote:
How do you decide whether to gem vitality or main stat, and is ruby > extra health in helm?

if your lifebar frequently dips below 50%, then go for vita. otherwise i'd say mainstat. it should be kept in mind that "oh shit"-situations can always happen. sometimes, the only way to survive such a situation is to nuke the dangerous pack as quickly as possible.

in helm, i'd always go for ruby on low paragon chars because levels and thus the level boni come in quickly so that you will soon see a return on investment for the ruby. the higher the char, the more it would hurt to die, so that extra precausion might make sense.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Shadow Sylph
Profile Joined December 2010
United States98 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 02:02:27
April 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#62
Poke I have a wizard right now sitting at 46k Health, 600 All Res, 4000 Armor and 30k DPS. Where should I be farming to be most efficient, yet feel relatively safe?

Edit: Updated ALL res to reflect with prismatic armor
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 26 2013 02:28 GMT
#63
On April 26 2013 11:00 Shadow Sylph wrote:
Poke I have a wizard right now sitting at 46k Health, 600 All Res, 4000 Armor and 30k DPS. Where should I be farming to be most efficient, yet feel relatively safe?

Edit: Updated ALL res to reflect with prismatic armor

Try to get into a good party and just farm A3 MP0. I just clear the good areas of A3 in order. Skycrown, kd2, rakkis backwards + fields, td1, crater2, core. Most hardcore players run some variant of this. I'm not sure if you'd be comfortable doing it solo - if you wanna get some help getting into it, feel free to add me and I'll run with ya pokebunny#1967
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
April 26 2013 06:35 GMT
#64
I just started hardcore and wow, it's a lot more enjoyable. Although I think that's mostly due to the achievements I get for killing every boss and every 10 levels. And probably the fact that I've never played monk before so it's refreshing! I guess I also haven't played D3 in like a year. Whatever, I'm having a great time. Thanks Pokebunny for this thread!
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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1027 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 12:44:05
April 26 2013 12:42 GMT
#65
I'm interested in starting HC again in 1.08. I have a paragon 11 barb, haven't swapped gear since 1.03 so she's EXTREMELY defensively oriented with 74k life, 650 AR, 5.7k armor and 17k DPS. It would be nice to play with others in a group on MP0-1 so feel free to add me Freezard#2349
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 26 2013 16:29 GMT
#66
On April 26 2013 15:35 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
I just started hardcore and wow, it's a lot more enjoyable. Although I think that's mostly due to the achievements I get for killing every boss and every 10 levels. And probably the fact that I've never played monk before so it's refreshing! I guess I also haven't played D3 in like a year. Whatever, I'm having a great time. Thanks Pokebunny for this thread!

glad to hear it!
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
April 27 2013 05:25 GMT
#67
Thanks man!
Great guide XD
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
April 27 2013 09:40 GMT
#68
Great guide, I had a level 60 monk way before the Paragon patch and died to a server disconnect.. Hadn't play HC since ^^ maybe I'll start again cause SC is really boring..
Should I start Normal/Nightmare with a MP level or is MP0 better ?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
April 27 2013 12:53 GMT
#69
On April 27 2013 18:40 Lylat wrote:
Great guide, I had a level 60 monk way before the Paragon patch and died to a server disconnect.. Hadn't play HC since ^^ maybe I'll start again cause SC is really boring..
Should I start Normal/Nightmare with a MP level or is MP0 better ?

depends on your focus and whether you use the ah or gear from previous hc chars or not.

when i just want to get to lvl 60 + inferno as quickly as possible, i start on mp0 until im lvl 15. then i get a socketed weapon with a ruby in it (at least flawless square) and switch to mp3 until the end of act3. azmodan kill on mp0, however, since his meteor attack can really smash chars if it had enough time to accelerate. from then on, i regularly upgrade my gear and my weapon in particular, but always stay on mp0 until inferno. this way, whereever you are, you will be on about the highest level on which you still get good exp in that area.


if you play selffound, then mp0 all the way.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 27 2013 13:08 GMT
#70
On April 27 2013 21:53 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 18:40 Lylat wrote:
Great guide, I had a level 60 monk way before the Paragon patch and died to a server disconnect.. Hadn't play HC since ^^ maybe I'll start again cause SC is really boring..
Should I start Normal/Nightmare with a MP level or is MP0 better ?

depends on your focus and whether you use the ah or gear from previous hc chars or not.

when i just want to get to lvl 60 + inferno as quickly as possible, i start on mp0 until im lvl 15. then i get a socketed weapon with a ruby in it (at least flawless square) and switch to mp3 until the end of act3. azmodan kill on mp0, however, since his meteor attack can really smash chars if it had enough time to accelerate. from then on, i regularly upgrade my gear and my weapon in particular, but always stay on mp0 until inferno. this way, whereever you are, you will be on about the highest level on which you still get good exp in that area.


if you play selffound, then mp0 all the way.



you can MP10 up to hell with only buying a new, 10k-ish weapon every 10th level. i dont rly know what ur talking about.
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Shadow Sylph
Profile Joined December 2010
United States98 Posts
April 27 2013 13:13 GMT
#71
I just MP0 all the way and upgrade my gear once and a while when I stop dominating the mobs. With a red gem in helm you out level the content easily.
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 13:08:48
April 28 2013 13:04 GMT
#72
I just got to level 60 as a Monk, first try.

Asked a rather stupid question and just answered it via the OP. Basically i'm going to stack lightning res and all res on my gear.
Praise the sun! \o/
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11941 Posts
April 28 2013 13:10 GMT
#73
Lres will generally be cheaper then allres, and have the same effect, so I'd go for Vit + Dex + LRes + x, depending on how much money you have. You will probably want Allres + Lres on some of your gear, +armor is always nice too, so you can be save enough. Though if you have enough money you will also want more damage.

I am by no means experienced, but maybe you want to take a look at what i bought so far:

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Simberto-2209/hero/26788948

This is a very cheap set, i think i paid at most 1-2 mio total, and i am able to farm A3 rather safely. I wouldn't want to get a lot less EHP then this, though. At the moment i am trying to improve my damage without dropping EHP, but this is interestingly pretty expensive.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 28 2013 13:44 GMT
#74
On April 27 2013 22:08 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 21:53 Black Gun wrote:
On April 27 2013 18:40 Lylat wrote:
Great guide, I had a level 60 monk way before the Paragon patch and died to a server disconnect.. Hadn't play HC since ^^ maybe I'll start again cause SC is really boring..
Should I start Normal/Nightmare with a MP level or is MP0 better ?

depends on your focus and whether you use the ah or gear from previous hc chars or not.

when i just want to get to lvl 60 + inferno as quickly as possible, i start on mp0 until im lvl 15. then i get a socketed weapon with a ruby in it (at least flawless square) and switch to mp3 until the end of act3. azmodan kill on mp0, however, since his meteor attack can really smash chars if it had enough time to accelerate. from then on, i regularly upgrade my gear and my weapon in particular, but always stay on mp0 until inferno. this way, whereever you are, you will be on about the highest level on which you still get good exp in that area.


if you play selffound, then mp0 all the way.



you can MP10 up to hell with only buying a new, 10k-ish weapon every 10th level. i dont rly know what ur talking about.

He's right. With Cain's and a ruby, you'll hit level 60 before finishing hell even on MP0 most of the way, so it's better to just speed through the content faster.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Isaac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States810 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 16:43:49
April 28 2013 16:40 GMT
#75
Is there a place where I can trade SC gold to HC gold?

I am starting out, kind of going a bit slow.

edit: forgot word
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Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
April 28 2013 16:46 GMT
#76
On April 28 2013 22:10 Simberto wrote:
Lres will generally be cheaper then allres, and have the same effect, so I'd go for Vit + Dex + LRes + x, depending on how much money you have. You will probably want Allres + Lres on some of your gear, +armor is always nice too, so you can be save enough. Though if you have enough money you will also want more damage.

I am by no means experienced, but maybe you want to take a look at what i bought so far:

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Simberto-2209/hero/26788948

This is a very cheap set, i think i paid at most 1-2 mio total, and i am able to farm A3 rather safely. I wouldn't want to get a lot less EHP then this, though. At the moment i am trying to improve my damage without dropping EHP, but this is interestingly pretty expensive.



Thanks for your help, i've bought a couple of items (with Lres and allres). This is my character pretty much fresh out of A4 hell having just hit 60.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shottaz-2781/hero/26329650
Praise the sun! \o/
convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
April 29 2013 05:53 GMT
#77
On April 29 2013 01:40 Isaac wrote:
Is there a place where I can trade SC gold to HC gold?

I am starting out, kind of going a bit slow.

edit: forgot word

No, they are on completely different economies, which is good. Otherwise people would just farm up SC and have a free ride through HC.
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
April 29 2013 07:11 GMT
#78
Has Inferno been heavily nerfed since the early days? I remember in Act 1 with my glass cannon WD I would get about 1/3rd of my health chunked by and Act 1 mob and now I can stand infront of a group and be ok having just hit 60 on my first run.

It might just be the power of Allres to be honest, does 800 res mean I mitigate the first 800 points of damage, then you factor in armor?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shottaz-2781/hero/26329650

Expert opinions please, how far can this guy go currently? A2 inf MP0?
Praise the sun! \o/
Oxslow
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom42 Posts
April 29 2013 08:39 GMT
#79
Thanks Pokebunny for writing this guide. I think I will now pixk up and start playing D3 after a break of a few months.
Oxslow
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom42 Posts
April 29 2013 08:44 GMT
#80
On April 29 2013 01:40 Isaac wrote:
Is there a place where I can trade SC gold to HC gold?

I am starting out, kind of going a bit slow.

edit: forgot word


You used to be able to find people to trade with on the official forums about 4:1 for softcore to hardcore not sure if they still exist as I have been away for a few months and the ratio might have changed, BUT I would not do that because half the fun is levelling. There is no point running through HC complete out gearing the content on your first play through of every race IMO.
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