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United States1967 Posts
Since the last thread was derailed, I'll just set a few ground rules.
1.) This is only for lvl 60 characters who can run act3+ comfortably. 2.) This is not a thread to ask for advice on your gear or skill setup (use the individual class threads for that) 3.) If you have a lot of large images, put them in spoiler tags 4.) Please only post your gear
edit: if you want to embed an imgur album, just post the embed link and i'll take care of it
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United States1967 Posts
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Image link appears dead to me! :X
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stats: http://i48.tinypic.com/28nvyg.png items: http://i45.tinypic.com/27gnb8o.png skill build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#aRPgTX!Yae!YaYYZZ Found nats boots myself a while ago and decided to go for the set as i had a good amount saved up already and haven't regretted it. I was able to drop preparation from my skill build and the bat really helps cos i like to use both ball lightning and cluster bombs. Tactical advantage is great cos i'm able to use ss frequently just for moving around etc and it obviously helps in fights. Positioning with cluster bombs is easier with the movement speed aswell. Broke 100k dps mark without sharshooter 3 days ago, picture is with scoundrel so i have 102k dps without followers. I'm swapping around spray of teeth and devouring arrow alot atm but now it's at spray of teeth.
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It seems like end-game for a DH always ends up in Nat's set. Without it, you aren't end-game.
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United States1967 Posts
On August 03 2012 22:51 trinxified wrote: It seems like end-game for a DH always ends up in Nat's set. Without it, you aren't end-game.
I beg to differ However, I have to say that if you aren't going for MF or anything else except pure DPS, 2-3 piece nat's set seems the best choice. 4 piece gives you incredible survivability to make up for any lack of vit/resists.
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65k DPS, 330+ all resist, 23.8k HP. ~90% MF without follower, full nats set farming act 3 comfortably. Looking to upgrade weapons soon
left click hungering arrow spray of teeth right click cluster arrow cluster bombs
SS lingering fog caltrops with 2 sec stun bat companion preparation back up plan
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Why do so few people use Inna's Belt + Pants combo on top of the nat set? Nice amor, all res, ms, and CC, plus 130 dex bonus! Is that not considered as end game?
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inna's belt & pants can't give enough all resist, and does not give MF. Magic find is really important for you to actually be able to farm efficiently - I'm trying to aim for 100% base with 100k DPS w/o SS but its becoming pretty hard to keep upgrading =( sometimes the best items just dont seem to exist hahaha
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United States1967 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:42 Glacierz wrote: Why do so few people use Inna's Belt + Pants combo on top of the nat set? Nice amor, all res, ms, and CC, plus 130 dex bonus! Is that not considered as end game?
There are a lot of factors you have to consider. Assuming you are prioritizing DPS and forgetting about MF, a high/perfect roll will probably out DPS 2 rares, but you give up on A LOT of other possible stats. If you look at the numbers:
Let's compare the numbers:
ilvl 63 rare belt can have the following max stats:
6 stat roll slots: 1.) 100 dex + 100 vit 2.) 100 dex 3.) +80 all resist
4.) 5.) 6.) can be any combination of the following popular stats: 12% life, 20% MF, +5.1% chance to freeze, Any specific elemental resistance up to 60, +265 armor, +100 vit etc
Inna's belt has: 1.) +6% holy damage (this is the big draw for the set, it boosts your overall damage by increasing your base weapon damage before modifiers) 2.) +60 all resist 3.) +215 armor 4.) -10% cc duration 5.) + RANDOM magic stat (lets assume you want the best one for dps + surivability = 100 vit + 100 dex) Set Bonus: 130 dex / 2 = 65 dex
so comparing the two:
rare vs inna's belt 1.) 200 dex vs 165 dex 2.) 0% vs 6% boost to overall damage 3.) +80 vs +60 all resist 4.) 0 vs -10% cc duration (w/e not that big of a deal) 5.) +265 armor vs +215 armor 6.) random desired stat on rare pants vs nothing 7.) random desired stat on rare pants vs nothing 8.) random desired stat on rare pants vs nothing
I won't compare the pants, but the same thing applies (You lose out on extra dex + other random stat rolls for 6% IAS, 7% movespeed, and 1% crit chance).
My personal opinion is, the set gives the highest possible character sheet dps (which is not the same as effective dps), but you lose out on a lot of other utility and survivability stats. To me, its not worth it, but it may be for those trying to get 'Athene' level dps stats.
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United States37500 Posts
I like how there are only DHs so far. :<
imbal
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On August 04 2012 05:36 NeoIllusions wrote: I like how there are only DHs so far. :<
imbal Farmers extraordinaire!
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I sold my top tier items since u can still sell gold for real money in my country :D but I think my build can still be useful It consists of high crit damage and overall high damage from elemental sword + killing elites before shadow power or smoke screen run out no pesky move speed no sissy kiting, no sissy running away, just explode stuff away how diablo should be I use hatred regen on quiver, companion and weapon and max discipline on armor and quiver, I run shadow power or smoke screen all the time the enemy is hitting me I dont run away, I have almost no all resist (had 300 when I sold my gear) http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#bRXTgV!Yce!aZZZYb edit: just something to add 2h crossbow slowest possible ....
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Sup doods, this is my mad scientist wizard build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#VjmSXO!agf!aacZac
I went for heavy survival with decent damage and not bad life regeneration, all to prepare for PvP Meanwhile, I own everything in archon form and using the critical mass tornados to reset the cooldown of archon + diamond skin (when not in archon mode)
Here are my stats in archon mode: http://imgur.com/uicDd
And here are my stats + gear in standard mode http://imgur.com/a/QtnqO#13
I do not use glass cannon
Now im looking for better belt/pants/shoulder with 300 life regeneration on each on them to try to hit 2000 life regen per second which is gonna be awesome for PvP
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United States1967 Posts
That's a very strange skill setup, not sure why familiar is on right click, then again I know very little about wizards :p
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Since theres no rule that the character in question has to be yours, kingkongors barb is absolutely sick: + Show Spoiler +
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On August 04 2012 08:25 TheMango wrote: That's a very strange skill setup, not sure why familiar is on right click, then again I know very little about wizards :p
dear sir, familiar is on right click because you cannot have it on left click nor force weapon
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I'll be the first barb!
A Tanky DPS 1H+Shield Barbarian
Skill build: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WVSikP!ZVb!accacZ
Gear+Stats + Show Spoiler +
Screenshots taken with Enchantress buffs, Warcry and Battle Rage
Not really aimed at farming efficiency (so no MF). Just want to be an immovable beast for the sake of it. Having 2,200,000 EHP (without dodge/block) and 46% block chance makes me able to face tank 3 elites at a time in Act 3 without any real difficulty. Molten, Arcane, Plague, Desecrator, Frozen, Fire Chains all at once? Meh. Just means they are less likely to be Illusionists, Extra Health, etc ... so faster to kill, haha :D Still able to kill things reasonably fast though with 44.7k DPS 
Edit: guess I just missed the first barb boat
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United States1967 Posts
On August 04 2012 10:28 Trang wrote:I'll be the first barb! A Tanky DPS 1H+Shield Barbarian Skill build: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WVSikP!ZVb!accacZGear+Stats + Show Spoiler +Screenshots taken with Enchantress buffs, Warcry and Battle Rage Not really aimed at farming efficiency (so no MF). Just want to be an immovable beast for the sake of it. Having 2,200,000 EHP (without dodge/block) and 46% block chance makes me able to face tank 3 elites at a time in Act 3 without any real difficulty. Molten, Arcane, Plague, Desecrator, Frozen, Fire Chains all at once? Meh. Just means they are less likely to be Illusionists, Extra Health, etc ... so faster to kill, haha :D Still able to kill things reasonably fast though with 44.7k DPS  Edit: guess I just missed the first barb boat 
That's a lot of EHP. Can anything actually kill you?
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On August 04 2012 09:28 KiWiKaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 08:25 TheMango wrote: That's a very strange skill setup, not sure why familiar is on right click, then again I know very little about wizards :p dear sir, familiar is on right click because you cannot have it on left click nor force weapon
I think he mean for the fact that familiars last 10 minutes :X
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Here's my as of right now end game Demon Hunter.
Always looking for new people to play with on NA that MF gear swaps before a kill or just balling out of control like "TheMango" that can afford gear that includes MF on it. Shoot me a PM if anyone wants to farm with me or need help!
battle.net profile page: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tang-1275/hero/1208349
Here's the direct link to the embed album if it doesn't appear below: http://imgur.com/a/kGTW2#0
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On August 04 2012 12:13 TheMango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 10:28 Trang wrote:I'll be the first barb! A Tanky DPS 1H+Shield Barbarian Skill build: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WVSikP!ZVb!accacZGear+Stats + Show Spoiler +Screenshots taken with Enchantress buffs, Warcry and Battle Rage Not really aimed at farming efficiency (so no MF). Just want to be an immovable beast for the sake of it. Having 2,200,000 EHP (without dodge/block) and 46% block chance makes me able to face tank 3 elites at a time in Act 3 without any real difficulty. Molten, Arcane, Plague, Desecrator, Frozen, Fire Chains all at once? Meh. Just means they are less likely to be Illusionists, Extra Health, etc ... so faster to kill, haha :D Still able to kill things reasonably fast though with 44.7k DPS  Edit: guess I just missed the first barb boat  That's a lot of EHP. Can anything actually kill you?
Not much kills me at all. Probably the thing that kills me most is carelessness, like when I could have easily moved to dodge a whole lot of damage. Once in a blue moon an elite pack with the right combinations and which hit hard and slow might make me pop a potion (slow and hard is bad since I rely on Revenge sustain over LoH, and it makes my block less effective).
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Monk, completely unbuffed with dual wield setup on, no follower:
http://imgur.com/a/rA06U#0
Also, us normal users can't use html, so we can't embed.
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On August 04 2012 10:28 Trang wrote:I'll be the first barb! A Tanky DPS 1H+Shield Barbarian Skill build: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WVSikP!ZVb!accacZGear+Stats + Show Spoiler +Screenshots taken with Enchantress buffs, Warcry and Battle Rage Not really aimed at farming efficiency (so no MF). Just want to be an immovable beast for the sake of it. Having 2,200,000 EHP (without dodge/block) and 46% block chance makes me able to face tank 3 elites at a time in Act 3 without any real difficulty. Molten, Arcane, Plague, Desecrator, Frozen, Fire Chains all at once? Meh. Just means they are less likely to be Illusionists, Extra Health, etc ... so faster to kill, haha :D Still able to kill things reasonably fast though with 44.7k DPS  Edit: guess I just missed the first barb boat 
Damn Trang. I absolutely love your Barb. That's what I'm trying to build up as... I'm doing the old school tank Barb.
On August 04 2012 08:07 KiWiKaKi wrote:Sup doods, this is my mad scientist wizard build http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#VjmSXO!agf!aacZacI went for heavy survival with decent damage and not bad life regeneration, all to prepare for PvP Meanwhile, I own everything in archon form and using the critical mass tornados to reset the cooldown of archon + diamond skin (when not in archon mode) Here are my stats in archon mode: http://imgur.com/uicDdAnd here are my stats + gear in standard mode http://imgur.com/a/QtnqO#13I do not use glass cannon Now im looking for better belt/pants/shoulder with 300 life regeneration on each on them to try to hit 2000 life regen per second which is gonna be awesome for PvP
And wow Kiwi... I'd pay lots of gold for your shield! I wanttttttt!
btw, are you the same kiwi who plays/played SC2 pro?
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Some very nice 'drools' gear in here. My contribution, nothing crazy as I have all five classes.
In no particular order, though love playing Barb, Wiz and Monk.
Wizard Spec: Standard wicked wind build. Sometimes I use Archon in their somewhere. + Show Spoiler +
Barbarian Spec: Standard ring a round a rosey "Whirldwind" Barbarian. + Show Spoiler +
Demon Hunter Spec: Nothing special, standard nats set, however recently acquired LOH bow in an attempt to try something tanky by transferring all my monk gear to DH and try some tank builds at some stage. + Show Spoiler +
Monk Spec (Cold Res OWE): Dual Wield stats shown, however I do sometimes go tankier with Helm o Command and shield, probably the hardest class to get good gear for because of dual res stacking for one with everything (and not so good AH search). + Show Spoiler +
Witch Doctor Spec: Same gear as wizard except for offhand - weopon from monk as they're interchangable. Really just to show the stats. Currently playing this class, and pretty new to this class. + Show Spoiler +
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^ pretty crazy gear for all classes still. If you spent that time and gold all on one class instead, you'd probably be god-like.
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This is my WW Wizard.
He isn't certainly not quite as godly as some of you guys, but I can still do Act III pretty well so I figured I qualified. I still don't farm it very much because of inefficient times and I've determined that the investment to get to the point where I could farm Act III at the same inefficiency that I can farm Act II would just be too great to be worth it. plus MF swapping in Act III is a real pain in the ass.
I've only put in about 205 hours and don't really play anymore, except for the AH. Whenever I get bored I will play some to see if I can get some phat loots (it is the only game I know of where I could actually make some good cash on...). My gems are pretty bad, but I've actually done most of my trading through RMAH so I don't really have the funds to upgrade them, and at the same time I feel like their cost wouldn't warrant the small upgrades and the gold would be better spent elsewhere.
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Not much to add, pretty similar to most other DHs out there. Was using Hungering - Devouring Cluster - Loaded for Bear SP - Gloom SS - Lingering Prep - Scars Companion - Bat Grenadier, Steady Aim, Archery up until recently. I wanted to try to see if it was viable to start skipping random trash mobs though. So I switched Bat to Vault - Tumble and Steady Aim to Tactical Advantage. Basic idea was to Vault with TA past most mobs until you meet an elite pack where you use mostly cluster bomb and gloom to clear out any possible random mobs you had on your tail and eventually also the elite pack itself.
Result? I think I managed to lower overall run time slightly, but it most definitely resulted in a few more random deaths. And what used to be me breezing through mobs safely suddenly became quite the challenge having to manage your hatred/discipline while dodging massive amount of melee mobs and projectiles with very limited space to use for kiting. Not sure it ended up being more effective farming, maybe slightly. Got Cydaea + Azmo runs down to steadily around 10min unless there were any particularly annoying packs, with the fastest runs going slightly faster too. But I did enjoy the challenge if someone likes that and wants to give it a shot ^^
Running what I guess you could call "tanky dps" with ~70k dps (only Archery) ~56k hp and ~400 resists. I think it could work quite well with slightly better gear or if I'd go back to Act 2 or something. It would probably benefit a lot to have 4 piece Natalyas too, which I dont have (never felt I needed it when just playing normal kiting, just too many lost stats imo. But with the massive disc spending of Vaulting past mobs and then Glooming+SSing against packs I really started feeling like it would be a good idea). The lack of Bat companion was also noticable. In the end it seems like the endgame goal to me should be to get to the point where you can effeortlessly get past trash mobs and just care about elites, kinda like how well geared Barbs can play.
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Any of these builds run with 200-300 MF?
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On August 06 2012 01:52 Burrfoot wrote: Any of these builds run with 200-300 MF? Why don't you have a look for yourself.
*hint: its near the OP
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None of the people wearing natalya's concerned with the bonus being nerfed? Im on HC and that bonus would be godlike for me, the pieces are however so expensive on HC(there's only 1 - 3 with decent stats up at any given time) that they would be an insane investment. By comparison i have like 20 mil gold, which in HC is a fair amount. Every piece averages in on like 10mil.
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United States1967 Posts
On August 06 2012 22:57 unkkz wrote: None of the people wearing natalya's concerned with the bonus being nerfed? Im on HC and that bonus would be godlike for me, the pieces are however so expensive on HC(there's only 1 - 3 with decent stats up at any given time) that they would be an insane investment. By comparison i have like 20 mil gold, which in HC is a fair amount. Every piece averages in on like 10mil.
A blue has posted that although that discipline regen set bonus was unintended, that they most likely are not going to be nerfing it. Nothing guaranteed of course :p
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United States1967 Posts
well, now that profile pages are out, might as well include them in your posts going forward
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hyped-1303/hero/953743
dunno if I'm breaking the thread rules here but I prefer doing 10m Act2 runs (after comparing about 20 runs of this vs Act3 farming, this route came out on top for most lvl63's per minute)
the life steal, move speed, and passive mf let me stay in archon most of the time keeping this as brainless as possible, allowing me to enjoy podcasts/audiobooks/music
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hunts-1629/hero/15394350 this is my DH alt, for fun I'm trying to see how far I can get on a budget MF/glass canon build. Curious, are my skills good? It's the build I got from my DH bud I played with but he quit a while ago, and I see the DHs posting in here having different builds.
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On August 07 2012 07:16 hyped wrote:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hyped-1303/hero/953743dunno if I'm breaking the thread rules here but I prefer doing 10m Act2 runs (after comparing about 20 runs of this vs Act3 farming, this route came out on top for most lvl63's per minute) the life steal, move speed, and passive mf let me stay in archon most of the time keeping this as brainless as possible, allowing me to enjoy podcasts/audiobooks/music
I don't get why it shows 4.5k armor on your profile page. Did it somehow upload the buffed stats?
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On August 07 2012 16:11 Turin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 07:16 hyped wrote:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hyped-1303/hero/953743dunno if I'm breaking the thread rules here but I prefer doing 10m Act2 runs (after comparing about 20 runs of this vs Act3 farming, this route came out on top for most lvl63's per minute) the life steal, move speed, and passive mf let me stay in archon most of the time keeping this as brainless as possible, allowing me to enjoy podcasts/audiobooks/music I don't get why it shows 4.5k armor on your profile page. Did it somehow upload the buffed stats?
yeah 4.5k is w/ energy armor, makes me wonder if you can cheese the dps/mf numbers with a shrine
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I am depressed after looking at all these profiles with 50k dps and here I am a poor monk stuck farming act 2 with 22k dps / 400 resist (225mf) and can't afford a single upgrade without dropping more then 10m a peice that doesn't seem worth it since I'd need like every slot upgraded to survive in Act 3 I'm guessing... ( advice welcome! http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/hero/1205254 )
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On August 07 2012 22:11 Burrfoot wrote:I am depressed after looking at all these profiles with 50k dps and here I am a poor monk stuck farming act 2 with 22k dps / 400 resist (225mf) and can't afford a single upgrade without dropping more then 10m a peice that doesn't seem worth it since I'd need like every slot upgraded to survive in Act 3 I'm guessing... ( advice welcome! http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/hero/1205254 )
I think that choosing physical resist in combination with wanting MF makes your upgrades so expensive.. If there's some item with nice dmg stats, dex, vit, all resist, phys resist and MF you are competing with filthy rich demonhunters... One obvious upgrade is your weapon and it will not affect MF or PhysRes.
If you want to do A3, i think it might be worthwile to save up 20-25M and build a new set of gear around a different resist with no/less MF (i personally prefer A3 with no MF over A2 with MF). Then start adding in MF items if that is what you want, hoever, A3-viable MF items will be expensive!
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Thanks for the input, I thought about switching to a less wanted resist, but plan on leveling a DH sometime so figure i may be able to share some gear.. Probably need more ARes for DH tho. After I beat Inferno on the barb alt will try a Make barb my 0 MF act 3 farmer as collecting an running through white mobs to 'help' keep the up between packs or during packs seems like fun. Variety makes things less tedious I suppose. Wish they didn't nerf nightmare GF runs so my poor wiz could do something.
Nice gear FGL, I am sad I have twice the elite kills as you and half the gear lol ... >_<
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On August 08 2012 02:30 Burrfoot wrote: Thanks for the input, I thought about switching to a less wanted resist, but plan on leveling a DH sometime so figure i may be able to share some gear.. Probably need more ARes for DH tho. After I beat Inferno on the barb alt will try a Make barb my 0 MF act 3 farmer as collecting an running through white mobs to 'help' keep the up between packs or during packs seems like fun. Variety makes things less tedious I suppose. Wish they didn't nerf nightmare GF runs so my poor wiz could do something.
Nice gear FGL, I am sad I have twice the elite kills as you and half the gear lol ... >_<
I have a 19k damage (unbuffed, about 21k buffed) phys monk with 230 unbuffed MF running A3 comfortably. There are many improvements you could make but first and foremost, I would change your skill build. You don't have the gear or DPS to run Overawe. You need Mantra of Evasion. Also forget cyclone, go with blade storm, and drop your crit gear for tankier gear. I have no crit at all. I would also drop mystic ally for breath of heaven blazing wrath.
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My build and gear listed is still just running the standard Vota+ run. I went crit+mf at the same time and all the gear I had (ias+loh focus) when I beat inferno the first time (30k dps etc) I sold on thr RMAH the last time I "cashed out". I have started to re-collect a non-MF crit/ias set. I just can't sand attacking slow, it pains me to death with just 15% ias from DW.
How long do typical Act 3 runs take for you? I beat Inferno on my barb and could do a 5 stack siege breaker run with 0 MF but the quantity of rares was at 1/3rd the rate of my VOTA runs, especially getting to 5 stacks with 0 MF is unrewarding. Barb and monk both ~20k dps. And on that note, farming with a budget WW barb that cant blow packs up in less than a minute is... a lot of work!!!! All that mouse moving to keep spinning and laying tornadoes down in the right spot. With fists of thunder I just hold left mouse and automagically teleport to the elite every time it moves until it dies. I also fail at overpower/ww... still find it clunky as my tornado placement is terrible as many times I burn rage on sprint and only lay one down against the wall. I sort f enjoy running thru trash packs and dragging them into elite packs just to generate rage. Act 3 monster types are more annoying too... Can't beat the ease of skeletons or goblins >_<
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http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Solitude-2305/hero/310798
Running that mainly, got LoH rings to swap for against reflect dmg, also shield and helm to swap for against a particularly durable affix combo.
Also run a different build that is WAY tankier, using shield and tank helm, blur instead of glass cannon, prismatic instead of pinpoint and increased dmg instead of teleport rune on archon, but that is mostly against bosses only. Or just when I am lazy.
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So I'm pretty close to where I was before selling my gear and putting all on rmah due finding a 25mi ring =D http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOD-1619/hero/16218610 My objective is to get to 225% unswapable / 300 with stacks MF gear. I could jump to near double the damage if i got a natalya's set but i am really not a big fan of swaping.... Act 3 is not a breeze like it was with natalya's but with my skill setup i can still do it pretty fine if i time shadow power and smoke screen ....
On August 07 2012 22:11 Burrfoot wrote:I am depressed after looking at all these profiles with 50k dps and here I am a poor monk stuck farming act 2 with 22k dps / 400 resist (225mf) and can't afford a single upgrade without dropping more then 10m a peice that doesn't seem worth it since I'd need like every slot upgraded to survive in Act 3 I'm guessing... ( advice welcome! http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/hero/1205254 )
my first char was a monk and i REALLY dont think you should do a mf monk all resistance + mf + dexterity are for over over over billionarie dhs its cheaper to roll any other class then equip yourself properly the way you want ....
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On August 09 2012 02:44 NTTemplar wrote:http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Solitude-2305/hero/310798Running that mainly, got LoH rings to swap for against reflect dmg, also shield and helm to swap for against a particularly durable affix combo. Also run a different build that is WAY tankier, using shield and tank helm, blur instead of glass cannon, prismatic instead of pinpoint and increased dmg instead of teleport rune on archon, but that is mostly against bosses only. Or just when I am lazy.
how does that build run exactly? I'm on a standard WW build trying to switch to the archon ww build.
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ooh I can answer that one: Here is my detailed Archon guide (requires 60k+ dps):
1. Take the waypoint to wherever you want to go. 2. Click 1(magic weapon), 2(familiar), 3(energy armor) 3. Left click somewhere so your character moves forward 4. Repeat 3 until you see monsters 5. Press 4(Archon) 6. Right click on wherever the monsters are 7. Watch them disintegrate/ collect loot 8. If for some reason Archon runs out (most common cause is falling asleep, because the build is somewhat boring), move towards monsters and press leftclick so that twisters come out. Also spam righclick (crystal shell) so that you don't die. You are somewhat vulnerable without Archon. Danger! 9. Very soon you can press 4(Archon) again. 10. Repeat step 6/7
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http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Unkk-2615/hero/17088619
HC DH in MF gear, but MF gear is pretty equal to normal gear, slightly less crit. Don't really know where to improve without ruining myself atm. Looking to get more good MF gear but it's pretty rare and yeah, i dunno anyone got ideas? Crit on quiver with max disc, vit, dex is... oh so expensive sadly.
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i dont see end game gears here....
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On August 09 2012 19:09 mongmong wrote: i dont see end game gears here....
You're so awesome yo.
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On August 08 2012 21:25 Burrfoot wrote: My build and gear listed is still just running the standard Vota+ run. I went crit+mf at the same time and all the gear I had (ias+loh focus) when I beat inferno the first time (30k dps etc) I sold on thr RMAH the last time I "cashed out". I have started to re-collect a non-MF crit/ias set. I just can't sand attacking slow, it pains me to death with just 15% ias from DW.
How long do typical Act 3 runs take for you? I beat Inferno on my barb and could do a 5 stack siege breaker run with 0 MF but the quantity of rares was at 1/3rd the rate of my VOTA runs, especially getting to 5 stacks with 0 MF is unrewarding. Barb and monk both ~20k dps. And on that note, farming with a budget WW barb that cant blow packs up in less than a minute is... a lot of work!!!! All that mouse moving to keep spinning and laying tornadoes down in the right spot. With fists of thunder I just hold left mouse and automagically teleport to the elite every time it moves until it dies. I also fail at overpower/ww... still find it clunky as my tornado placement is terrible as many times I burn rage on sprint and only lay one down against the wall. I sort f enjoy running thru trash packs and dragging them into elite packs just to generate rage. Act 3 monster types are more annoying too... Can't beat the ease of skeletons or goblins >_<
My apologies, totally didn't see your reply. A full A3 run through I don't really do, but I would estimate 3 hrs. It's just too long and too boring with a tanky monk. But I run with 19k dps (actually 20k now) and 225 static MF comfortably through stonefort, keeps, and siegebreaker. That run probably takes me anywhere between 30 minutes to more than an hour depending on the packs I encounter. I can do 2-4 of those runs in the time it would take me to run through A3 completely, so it's actually not that bad efficiency-wise.
My monk was my first roll and I have regeared him countless times. Basically, you can't go crit/mf and expect to survive A3 consistently. It's impossible to afford gear that'll make that work. I'm not even sure its possible even if you had the gold/money. You're gonna need very good defensive stats to go along with that crit and MF. I've heard of some monks who can down packs in A3 in less than 4 sec or so, but I've never heard or seen of one that has 200+ MF. Maybe someone could show one off in this thread :D
What I did on my last regear was I dropped crit completely, and have zero movespeed. This allows me to afford some solid defensive gear with MF. By no means is my gear cheap, but it's about as cheap as you can get for a monk with 225 static MF that can run A3 comfortably. Shoot for a minimum of 700 AR, 1400 LOH, 40k life.
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Please, refer to TheMango's opening post. There are other threads for advice.
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On August 09 2012 19:09 mongmong wrote: i dont see end game gears here....
I think my gear is pretty end game :o at least I struggle finding better on AH on most slots
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On August 09 2012 19:09 mongmong wrote: i dont see end game gears here....
Let's see your gear then. I can't imagine that someone would make a smug comment as you have an not have better gear than everyone else in the thread.
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Mango, since there has been a lot of posts here that isn't just with gear, maybe add the end game chars to the OP
Barb + Show Spoiler + - WW (quick note about what it is) spoiler - Tank spoiler - superduper metagame
DH ... ...
Monk ... ...
WD ...
Wiz ...
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here's my current farming setup:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MysticaL-1298/hero/4074361
My next change to my gear is probably to get a +10 disc quiver, so that I have 40 total disc, and then get a 55+ resist all nat shadow. Trying to get 500AR/700+ physical resist w/ 40k hp, while keeping my 100k DPS and nats set for that inevitable pvp
also looking for 6% crit bracers and 180+ dex/AR/phys resist shoulders (dammit mango your shoulders are so good)... but these barely exist on the AH T__T
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Mango, can you upload a Siegbreaker run? I want to get really jelly and gelatinous.
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/deducter-1737/hero/1003912
The SOJ adds a surprising amount of damage against elite groups. I can full clear A3 in about 70-80m depending on the layout and how well I play. This build does require playing somewhat carefully, I sometimes do very stupid things and get myself killed. The only groups I have trouble with are phase beasts groups and certain molten/vortex/fire chains type groups, when I'm not in archon of course.
I found the belt, SOJ, source, and gloves myself, the last three within a few days of playing.
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that's a pretty sick source..
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/awayish-1218/Vita/2926389
here's my dh but i switch around the boot with a mf one. only the bow and nat reflection are self found, but they are the most valuable pieces. shoulder rented by trading w/ friend. next piece will be the quiver as soon as i stop wasting money
most of my gear is 1 roll from end game though, except maybe the nat ring. i cut out maybe 40% ehp to get some more DPS, on the theory that those ehp can be made up from future upgrades from quiver, bracers, etc. then again i could just switch out more emeralds for amethysts but i think i don't die enough in a solo game to justify it.
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Guess mango cashed out before 1.04 MF cap? His gear was über!
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On September 14 2012 00:18 Burrfoot wrote: Guess mango cashed out before 1.04 MF cap? His gear was über! Looks like it. Paragon level 0, last played 23 days ago =(
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I am running somewhat unique build I am sure ofcourse it is no where near MY OWN. But it works EXTREMELY effective. In my opinion this is the best and most versatile Wiz build out there right now for high-end gear Wiz w/ MAX dps.
Gear: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 When buying gear: Life regen, Life regen, Life regen! THIS IS KEY TO THIS BUILD. Keep in mind this works with ONLY with a certain % of vit. Too much regen and it refills u to fast which is wasted..Too little regen and u take too long to refill life. I figure these timings are the BEST. -W/ force armor u take ONLY 35% DMG MAX. @ 1 HIT. W/ whatever ur regen is..it should refill u in about 3-5 seconds max! SO roughly u need 15% regen per second of ur life. So for me...I have 30k life. 2100-2400 life regen is IDEAL. Regen is EXTREMELY cheap because people don't understand how amazing it truly is...Think of it this way. -1400 Life on hit = 2800 Life regen ( WITHOUT HITTING ANYTHING)....truly remarkable. -All resistance is helpful but not ALWAYS needed...I do this build perfectly fine with only 300+ all resistance.I hardly ever die. I can stand on descreator...molten...anything. Because of massive life regen. -When it comes to dps...believe it or not the slower ur attacks per second...THE MORE UR CRIT DMG IS. - I perform 106k dps (crit for 400k) @ 1.21 attacks per second. - ILLUSIONIST PASSIVE IS A MUST! Anything else is optional ( This allows u to everytime u get hit...take the initial 35% dmg.w/ force armor. Then teleport out of the way and regen life.. Then get hit again, take the 35% dmg ..because once u get hit again ur teleport cooldown is restored. -Also Dexterity isn't NECESSARY. But keep in mind (Dex. = Dodge rate) More dex..more chance u have of dodging attacks!
So with my build.. 1.Lay a hydra down everywhere as ur walking around. 2.If anything hits u, use crystal shell and teleport out of the way. (Life refill in 3-5 seconds) 3. Spam seeker and kite around + Celestial orb 4. Keep dodging attacks and keep perform like so.
BONUS TO THIS BUILD?? - Can transition to pretty much anything you want. - DID I MENTION GETTING BUFFED? 1.0.5?(Seeker missle gaining 15% in dmg) - Allows for maximum dps - Impossible to nerf unless they nerf force armor from 35% to maybe 50%? But in no way shape or form has that ever been brought up. -Somewhat cheap to gear because doesn't require much ias gear or all resist gear (mostly crit chance, crit dmg)
If anyone has any question about this build please feel free to PM me. I clear act 3 so easily and I can handle any monster/elite/boss....
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wow my character has changed so much. I feel like I just found a time capsule.
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That's some sexy gear Marshall, but wouldn't Lacuni Prowlers be better as bracers? You're only at 12% MS after all . 150 million buys you some pretty good Prowlers on EU at least.
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Ya you know I haven't even looked at lacuni's haha. Just checked some decent ones starting bid 400m 90/90 dexvit 4.5 cc 44 all res 9 ias
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Pretty happy with how easy it is to do A3. On the ptr, I could comfortably farm MP5 as well. All the gear I found - except for the bracers. Had some pretty decent luck with that too.
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