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On May 24 2012 11:39 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 07:15 BrauL wrote:
So many people don't understand how to item&skill build their chars. That's the first step. The second is learning how to micro so you don't die. Come on people this is a bw and sc2 forum; the most complex and difficult games out there. You can figure out d3 inferno. when in act 2 the whole screen is filled with stuff that hits between 10k and 25k chances are something will hit you from time to time. and i wont even talk about actually doing dmg in that situation as a melee char.
His comment is like saying you should be able to micro 1 marine against forcefield or fungal.
There are abilities that just ignore what you do. Micro or no micro, getting vortexed into a freeze/plague/molten/whatever is bad news.
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On May 24 2012 07:45 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 07:15 BrauL wrote:
So many people don't understand how to item&skill build their chars. That's the first step. The second is learning how to micro so you don't die. Come on people this is a bw and sc2 forum; the most complex and difficult games out there. You can figure out d3 inferno. Problem is that it's gear-based rather than skill-based
Not at all, gear DOES play a factor, but saying it's not skill-based is just dumb. I have garbage gear and got through act 2 and some of act 3 on inferno as did a friend of mine with even worse gear. Another person I know has cleared the whole thing with very mediocre gear, whereas some people I know with INSANE (or at least compared to me, lol) gear are struggling in a1/a2. Gear will always play a part in hack'n'slash games like this, but you can definitely make a large difference through good play.
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On May 24 2012 11:55 Skwid1g wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 07:45 Shikyo wrote:On May 24 2012 07:15 BrauL wrote:
So many people don't understand how to item&skill build their chars. That's the first step. The second is learning how to micro so you don't die. Come on people this is a bw and sc2 forum; the most complex and difficult games out there. You can figure out d3 inferno. Problem is that it's gear-based rather than skill-based Not at all, gear DOES play a factor, but saying it's not skill-based is just dumb. I have garbage gear and got through act 2 and some of act 3 on inferno as did a friend of mine with even worse gear. Another person I know has cleared the whole thing with very mediocre gear, whereas some people I know with INSANE (or at least compared to me, lol) gear are struggling in a1/a2. Gear will always play a part in hack'n'slash games like this, but you can definitely make a large difference through good play.
lag based if you dont live next to the server
250ms at BEST of times = gl optimising your kite path/dodging aoes/etc
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If anyone is still defending blizzard for this unfinished game... or can I say UNTESTED? 7 years+ in the making and they dont even know what the skills THEY created do and how to use those skills... it is not like smokescreen/energy armor was some secret bug that we had to figure out LOL... they are so obvious anyone even WoW casuals would have figured out within days. Not only did they not test inferno with every single class which is the reason why some classes have much easier time then others... They just slapped in some numbers like doubling the hp and dmg from hell difficulty and assume that it wouldbe hard enough... they run it and die horribly and assume that it was hard enough for us...and the fact that you need gear from higher act to even survive earlier act is just.... so what is the alpha and beta phase of the game for? if they are jsut going to release a crap like D3 where the release is actually the testing phase LOL
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They are saying you can get a full refund for 30days if you call the blizzard support line
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On May 24 2012 12:05 [Crimson]Bason wrote:
If anyone is still defending blizzard for this unfinished game... or can I say UNTESTED? 7 years+ in the making and they dont even know what the skills THEY created do and how to use those skills... it is not like smokescreen/energy armor was some secret bug that we had to figure out LOL... they are so obvious anyone even WoW casuals would have figured out within days. Not only did they not test inferno with every single class which is the reason why some classes have much easier time then others... and the fact that you need gear from higher act to even survive earlier act is just.... so what is the alpha and beta phase of the game for? if they are jsut going to release a crap like D3 where the release is actually the testing phase LOL
There's this cool new innovation called grammar. You should look it up.
User was warned for this post
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On May 24 2012 12:07 Lagcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 12:05 [Crimson]Bason wrote:
If anyone is still defending blizzard for this unfinished game... or can I say UNTESTED? 7 years+ in the making and they dont even know what the skills THEY created do and how to use those skills... it is not like smokescreen/energy armor was some secret bug that we had to figure out LOL... they are so obvious anyone even WoW casuals would have figured out within days. Not only did they not test inferno with every single class which is the reason why some classes have much easier time then others... and the fact that you need gear from higher act to even survive earlier act is just.... so what is the alpha and beta phase of the game for? if they are jsut going to release a crap like D3 where the release is actually the testing phase LOL There's this cool new innovation called grammar. You should look it up.
can you point out grammar mistakes? stop looking at grammar and look at the post please. you should stop your blind and ignorant attitude and add something useful to the topic and discussion
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On May 24 2012 12:07 Lagcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 12:05 [Crimson]Bason wrote:
If anyone is still defending blizzard for this unfinished game... or can I say UNTESTED? 7 years+ in the making and they dont even know what the skills THEY created do and how to use those skills... it is not like smokescreen/energy armor was some secret bug that we had to figure out LOL... they are so obvious anyone even WoW casuals would have figured out within days. Not only did they not test inferno with every single class which is the reason why some classes have much easier time then others... and the fact that you need gear from higher act to even survive earlier act is just.... so what is the alpha and beta phase of the game for? if they are jsut going to release a crap like D3 where the release is actually the testing phase LOL There's this cool new innovation called grammar. You should look it up.
How many languages can you speak?
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On May 24 2012 12:11 NotSorry wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 12:07 Lagcraft wrote:On May 24 2012 12:05 [Crimson]Bason wrote:
If anyone is still defending blizzard for this unfinished game... or can I say UNTESTED? 7 years+ in the making and they dont even know what the skills THEY created do and how to use those skills... it is not like smokescreen/energy armor was some secret bug that we had to figure out LOL... they are so obvious anyone even WoW casuals would have figured out within days. Not only did they not test inferno with every single class which is the reason why some classes have much easier time then others... and the fact that you need gear from higher act to even survive earlier act is just.... so what is the alpha and beta phase of the game for? if they are jsut going to release a crap like D3 where the release is actually the testing phase LOL There's this cool new innovation called grammar. You should look it up. How many languages can you speak?
its ok when blizzard fanboys have to revert to attacking grammar as an excuse to ignore the flaws of this game... I give up ...
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On May 24 2012 12:12 [Crimson]Bason wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 12:11 NotSorry wrote:On May 24 2012 12:07 Lagcraft wrote:On May 24 2012 12:05 [Crimson]Bason wrote:
If anyone is still defending blizzard for this unfinished game... or can I say UNTESTED? 7 years+ in the making and they dont even know what the skills THEY created do and how to use those skills... it is not like smokescreen/energy armor was some secret bug that we had to figure out LOL... they are so obvious anyone even WoW casuals would have figured out within days. Not only did they not test inferno with every single class which is the reason why some classes have much easier time then others... and the fact that you need gear from higher act to even survive earlier act is just.... so what is the alpha and beta phase of the game for? if they are jsut going to release a crap like D3 where the release is actually the testing phase LOL There's this cool new innovation called grammar. You should look it up. How many languages can you speak? its ok when blizzard fanboys have to revert to attacking grammar as an excuse to ignore the flaws of this game... I give up ...
wait til the 29th cash out and get a full refund and if they do manage to fix the game in a few months you can always come back
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They will probably tune it though (either by decreasing some monster stats or increasing items strength), its pretty obvious they just played with numbers around on their spreadshee hoping it would be good and waited for release to see how it goes.
Once developers get enough whine and test it themselves they will probably act on it.
Meanwhile its still okayish in coop and I have 4 other classes to level up to 60.
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On May 24 2012 12:06 NotSorry wrote:
They are saying you can get a full refund for 30days if you call the blizzard support line
very tempting.
after dying to diablo on hell 3 times in a row Im a bit unhappy. third time was just precious. I got caught in a fireball when I was halfway across the map from it because it's prime game time.
I mean, a game like Bayonetta or Megaman 2 is hard but it's fair. no matter the difficulty, if I evaded an attack I evaded it. I didn't get hit because the server decided I was two seconds behind where my screen is telling me I am.
second blizzard game in a row that is really disappointing for me. servers constantly down (especially auction), bad ping and strange post-launch game changes. and before someone tells me that launching a game is hard, I understand that but this Acti-Blizzard; they certainly have enough money to do it right. and the fact that they don't is inexcusable precisely because of their resources.
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I like how people who play Monk or Barbarian act like rare packs in Inferno only spawn with affixes that only ranged can seemingly fight.
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anyone else feel blizz patched inferno abit? made mobs with less hp?
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On May 24 2012 12:58 NMx.StyX wrote:
anyone else feel blizz patched inferno abit? made mobs with less hp?
you sure you didn't get an upgrade?
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On May 24 2012 00:35 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 00:24 nuclear_nub wrote:Thank you, finally someone understands that a RNG system with a massive pool of mods can't produce the cream of the crop items in just a week, the people who say they already have the best items must think they're playing Final Fantasy (ie, I'm at endgame, so I must have best items). I'm glad somebody gets it. Community: Diablo 3 is too casual! /cry Blizz: Arright, we'll make a super-ultra hard mode after Hell. Community: I can't steamroll super-ultra hard mode after farming for three days! /cry Blizz: /facepalm No item is gonna allow a Melee to do a Waller Arcane Plague Vortex elite pack. NOTHING. And there's a lot of pack with stupid combo.
lol i actually like those kinda packs (barb)
i dont know what you're talking about, they are easy.
there are melee killer combos, but that one is not among them.
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oh man, it's so frustrating to read all those ignorant posts.
it doesn't matter from which act the gear is you are wearing, when you go for the wrong stats!
how can you say it's impossible, when it is possible for me?
doesn't it prove you wrong?
it looks like everyone comes here to rage and making a fool out of themselves.
i wrote it already in this thread and i'll do it again.
you NEED to have resistance, it doesn't matter if you have 100k health, 15k armor..
if you dont have resist gear, you will still die like a fly.
stop posting bullshit, go out and inform yourselves instead of crying.
if you thought you can clear inferno by just stacking dmg+hp, you're wrong.
for act 2, get 500+ (the more the better, since you need even more for the acts to come)
i'm doing fine in inferno so far, as solo and in groups (as barb).
still farming gear, but act 2 is not that big of a deal anymore,
i used to get one-shotted there aswell, when i didn't have the proper gear.
now they hit me for 3k-7k dmg.
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Video please. Because with 500 all 50k life and like 7k armor I still pretty much get raped by anything not a normal white mob in Act 2.
7k attacks add up as well. Would like to know what you are using to sustain yourself when every enemy is hitting you that hard.
Also armor reduces all damage, not sure if you knew that.
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The only beef i have with Inferno is the difficultly scaling with a group. As a DH i am staring to hate playing with people. That should never be the case no matter what game it is.
I sure hope blizzard changes this instead of rolling with the terrible terrible damage syndrome. Hell why the fuck do banshees still 2 shot workers oh that's right they fully decelerate before the animation ends.
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