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Adrenalinz
Profile Joined September 2011
30 Posts
August 19 2012 16:50 GMT
#1921
On August 20 2012 01:00 Blix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 00:18 Adrenalinz wrote:
Hello,

I want to play as a Monk with the following:
- Uses Daibo
- Uses Crippling Wave or The extended range attack (Either one or the other as a generator)

The things I don't want:
- The spell where a giant bell drops from the sky
- Mystic Ally Spell (I don't like the look of it)


That's about it.

What type of a build would fit these credentials? Thank you in advance.


These are builds that i used before i went 'standard', i guess they fit your requirements - tho i never used a 2h..
Offensive for farming:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#WdSgXk!UXa!abZaba
Defensive for progressing:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#bdSgXh!UXa!Zbbaba

imho, when you take to much dmg and need to go defensive, the first step is to go to 1h+shield, if even more defense is needed, then go to defensive skills. So going defensive build with a 2h doesn't make that much sense to me. Also note that in *probably* a day or two all will change....


Ok, thanks. I will check back in a day or two.

I really don't like the sound of using a shield on a monk. It just seems absurd, because when I think monk, I think Daibo or Fist Weapons only.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 17:28:59
August 19 2012 17:23 GMT
#1922
fists are 1-hand so you can go fist+shield

if you're opposed to that, then it is you who is absurd! 1h+shield is probably the best for entry-level monks

edit: for the cookie cutter LoH build at least. daibos were good when deadly reach kiting was a big thing
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 19:44:07
August 19 2012 19:21 GMT
#1923
On August 19 2012 20:11 mazqo wrote:
Can anyone help me with getting upgrades/new gear? My current char http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/imakki-2114/hero/7976127
I got 25m money and im not sure what i should buy. My aim is to make farm char, not to clear inferno. Should i buy few big expensive upgrades which are almost "end game" gear or upgrade many of my items. And what kind of gear should i aim for to farm act3/4, tank? max dps? I dont know whats viable. And it would be nice if you could also say stats required not to die 10 times to every elite pack and kite 10minutes and only hit when serenity is active in ACT3.



In order to farm A3 the fastest, dual wield is the way to go. However, your gear is lacking in many departments. Swap Guardian's Path for Seize the Initiative. You need A LOT more dex. At least 500 more. You need some sort of life regen, either life on hit or life steal. Considering your gear is subpar and your damage is low, life on hit is a better choice at the moment.

For defense, your resists are fine, your hp is enough, but your armor is very low. You need around 5k armor to effectively farm A3.

For damage, I would start with better gloves as above-average gloves are really cheap. Get something with dex, resist, crit chance and crit damage. Your pants are terrible, find pants with at least 150 dex. Your boots are really bad as well, get 200+ dex boots if you can.

Take a look at my monk: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Foucault-2331/hero/11099049

I built him from scratch with 27m gold, in 3 days with good deals at AH. I currently run full A3 with dying less than 10 times even with bad affix combination elites (jailer firechains plague desecrator kind of . He is by no means perfect, but I would argue that with that budget it's really as good as it gets. Currently selling an item for around 15m, will upgrade my pants and hopefully 1 weapon after I get some gold.

Hope this helps.
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Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
August 19 2012 19:43 GMT
#1924
On August 17 2012 05:32 Parnage wrote:
Hey guys, I am wondering what kind of weapons should monks be looking for? As far as stat's/itemization.

I know for barb's it's been a socketed crit dmg big damage mainhand and a generally cheaper but stat heavy offhand that's fairly quick(for ww barbs at least) but I am not sure if that carries over for monks. Is it the same concept for monks?

Right now I am finding a hell of a hard time finding a what I feel is a worthwhile damage upgrade for my mainhand(ie something over or close to 1kdps) with life on hit and a socket unless I feel like going to a what I feel minor-ish 200dps weapon increase.

For Reference:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Parnage-1774/hero/3346839


More dex, more dex, more dex. I would get a belt with dex to begin with.

But if you are asking weapons only, you are indeed at a hard spot. Since you do not have much crit rating (%14), you don't benefit from crit damage as well. Your offhand is your main LoH provider, but it is also a bad weapon. Usually you would see end-game monks using low dps (800-900ish) but high stat fast (1.40+) offhands. For example, 50 crit damage, 150 dex, 500 life on hit, socketed (+80-90 crit damage gemmed) sword/fist weapon, making it 150+ crit damage only from offhand.

For mainhand, they would get a slow mace/axe with high dps (1000+), some dex, and a socket.

Since I don't know your budget, I can only tell you how I would gradually replace your gear.

1. Replace your belt.
2. Replace second ring with crit + crit damage + dex ring.
3. Replace first ring with crit + crit damage ring.
4. Get a bracer with crit rating if you can.
4(tied). Replace your gloves with ones with vitality on them if you can.
5. With the vitality gained from replacing belt+gloves, get higher dex higher resist pants with lower vitality.
6. Amulets are the second highest income of crit damage after weapons, get an amulet with crit damage.
7. Get a chest with higher dexterity.
8. Replace main weapon, if you can't, get a 80% crit gem for it.
9. Replace your off-hand weapon.

Your main hand is actually a decent weapon, but as you don't have much crit rating, gemming it for crit damage does not boost your dps. So in order to have your weapons boost your dps significantly, first you need to fix your armor with crit + crit damage. You can drop your resists as low as 700, but not lower. Hope this helps.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 19 2012 23:39 GMT
#1925
Okay I'm so frustrated at this point...how the hell do you kill the elite phasebeast packs? normally I can kite the harder elites with deadly reach and such, but these fuckers will just teleport and surround you so you can't move, and they also just do a retarded amount of damage...

I have 700AR, 6700 armor, 900 LoH, and I use mantra of evasion hard target, and have 36k unbuffed dps...do I just need to max defensive stats?
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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 23:49:29
August 19 2012 23:47 GMT
#1926
They're still kitable unless they have some really stupid affix like vortex/jailer. Otherwise, either run into a corner so only 1-2 are hitting you at a time and they can't teleport behind you (of course they can't have any retarded affixes for this), or max incredible dps (FoT/Thunderclap) and kill at least one in a serenity/blind cycle and repeat. Whichever one you pick, you'll probably be whining about how stupid phasebeasts are, like we all do.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 19 2012 23:50 GMT
#1927
Haha okay, i'm glad to hear that I'm not just having some strange difficulties by myself. thanks!
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
mazqo
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland368 Posts
August 20 2012 11:42 GMT
#1928
On August 20 2012 04:21 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 20:11 mazqo wrote:
Can anyone help me with getting upgrades/new gear? My current char http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/imakki-2114/hero/7976127
I got 25m money and im not sure what i should buy. My aim is to make farm char, not to clear inferno. Should i buy few big expensive upgrades which are almost "end game" gear or upgrade many of my items. And what kind of gear should i aim for to farm act3/4, tank? max dps? I dont know whats viable. And it would be nice if you could also say stats required not to die 10 times to every elite pack and kite 10minutes and only hit when serenity is active in ACT3.



In order to farm A3 the fastest, dual wield is the way to go. However, your gear is lacking in many departments. Swap Guardian's Path for Seize the Initiative. You need A LOT more dex. At least 500 more. You need some sort of life regen, either life on hit or life steal. Considering your gear is subpar and your damage is low, life on hit is a better choice at the moment.

For defense, your resists are fine, your hp is enough, but your armor is very low. You need around 5k armor to effectively farm A3.

For damage, I would start with better gloves as above-average gloves are really cheap. Get something with dex, resist, crit chance and crit damage. Your pants are terrible, find pants with at least 150 dex. Your boots are really bad as well, get 200+ dex boots if you can.

Take a look at my monk: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Foucault-2331/hero/11099049

I built him from scratch with 27m gold, in 3 days with good deals at AH. I currently run full A3 with dying less than 10 times even with bad affix combination elites (jailer firechains plague desecrator kind of . He is by no means perfect, but I would argue that with that budget it's really as good as it gets. Currently selling an item for around 15m, will upgrade my pants and hopefully 1 weapon after I get some gold.

Hope this helps.

Yes, helps very much, thanks!
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
August 20 2012 13:59 GMT
#1929
Want to further upgrade my monk, but its getting more into small changes like 5dex here and .5 crit there. Can someone tell me what I should upgrade first (ie, what needs upgrading the most), before i spend all my money on something else :s

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ihasaKAROT-2736/hero/11104798

Tnx in advance
KCCO!
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 21:21:24
August 20 2012 21:20 GMT
#1930
Offhand I would say, something with 100+ dex and 150%+ crit damage and fast attack speed (stats are more important than dps, but I would say keep it around 700 at least). Since you're an arcane monk, you can also spring for some Seven Sins, only shoulders in the game that can roll 200+ dex. Helm and bracers have room for improvement (both can reach 150+ dex and 6% crit). Belt could use a little love. Your Skull's Grasp is a low roll, they can roll up to 200 dex. The increased damage range (along with the other stats you want) on rings is godly for dual wield.

We seem to be doing the same thing, so here's my dude for reference: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tiden-1317/hero/4123900 .
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
August 20 2012 21:29 GMT
#1931
With the combined buffs to 2-handers in general, as well as buffs to spirit spenders, which tend to help 2 handers (DoT of exploding palm, CD of 7 sided strike, big spirit cost of wave of light), I think 2 handers might be viable endgame.

I did most of my leveling and early inferno with a 2hander, it will fun to go back to it and maybe try some new builds.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
Pobearo
Profile Joined August 2009
United States351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 21:33:39
August 20 2012 21:31 GMT
#1932
Hey there, Here's my monk, I know my gear is pretty subpar. What pieces should I focus on replacing? What piece could be replaced the cheapest? My gear is pretty unfocused at the moment, should I be getting crit, LoH, resistance, vitality, dexterity?
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
August 20 2012 23:22 GMT
#1933
On August 21 2012 06:31 Pobearo wrote:
Hey there, Here's my monk, I know my gear is pretty subpar. What pieces should I focus on replacing? What piece could be replaced the cheapest? My gear is pretty unfocused at the moment, should I be getting crit, LoH, resistance, vitality, dexterity?

Best bang for your buck in my experience are specific resist chest/pants. For chest: ~150 dex, 150+ vit, ~30 specific resist, 3 open sockets for around 10m. For pants: ~150 dex, 150+ vit, ~30 specific resist, 2 open sockets for around 10m. You may have to search around for the resist you want, but that's generally what they go for.

For your character, I would urge you to find a nice Ouroboros (like mine!). They've been plummeting in price recently. Something with ~180 dex, 4% crit, ~400 LoH. I'm not sure if they're updating them in the patch, but if I had to take a guess I'd wager that they won't be updated because they're already quite good for their level. After that, helm, something with 60+dex, 6% crit, whatever vit and resist, maybe a socket if you're lucky.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
August 21 2012 16:50 GMT
#1934
So with mystic ally not being able to proc... What did he proc before?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
wwiv
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore182 Posts
August 21 2012 22:21 GMT
#1935
for those still playing (lol), seven sided strike + AOE rune is really good now because it gives you massacre exp bonus the more mobs you kill in a bunch.
Pobearo
Profile Joined August 2009
United States351 Posts
August 22 2012 03:22 GMT
#1936
Anyone found a use for the buffed exploding palm? I've always used 7 sided strike, and with the buff it's a lot more fun, but I'm still figuring out if EP is worth using. The flesh is weak seems like it could be useful as a 12% additional damage debuff as well as a bleed, and Essence Burn seems like it would make for a great AoE.
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2183 Posts
August 22 2012 05:05 GMT
#1937
So... it's been up for quite a while now. Any new interesting builds? I've changed to Fists of Fury and am now using 7 sided strike as well.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
August 22 2012 10:17 GMT
#1938
I bought some really cheap spirit regen gear (2 hander and helm) and I'm just spamming the shit outta wave of light using the reduced cost rune and spirit regen mantra. Hilarious stuff.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
August 22 2012 10:21 GMT
#1939
I cant get over the fact that its a giant ugly bellthing, its just never going to be anything I would use over and over, no matter how broken OP they make it . Its a giant ugly bellthing.
KCCO!
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
August 22 2012 10:22 GMT
#1940
On August 22 2012 19:17 ArC_man wrote:
I bought some really cheap spirit regen gear (2 hander and helm) and I'm just spamming the shit outta wave of light using the reduced cost rune and spirit regen mantra. Hilarious stuff.


hahaha that sounds awesome
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