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On July 02 2012 15:00 Hier wrote:
I have 940 resist all, 8k armor, 30k+ hp, and about 300 LoH. I still get tossed around like a rag doll by act 3 elite packs; I don't get it. Is 1k LoH, at the expense of survivability, really going to help? Getting 1k means pretty much maxing it out on every item that can even have LoH.
LoH compensates for not having total immunity to attacks. As monks we try to become invulnerable. Resolve, Sieze the Initiative, OWE, they all try and reduce the damage we take. Therefore as long as your LoH/Life Steal = or is > to the damage you take you win. 940 resist all and 8k armor seem very good for act 3, I can somewhat manage with 700 resist all, 6k armor and 18k HP with 1.2k LoH.
The thing is as long as you can heal for the amount of damage you recieve you are golden. You can heal from LoH/Life steal/Life from Spirit Spent. It does not matter as long as you can heal from the amount of damage you recieve (refered to as sustain here).
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The only thing LoH does is let you face tank a group of mobs for like 2 seconds longer than someone without it. If you don't want to gear for LoH, you have to kite a little more often, simple as that.
Or you just want to clear inferno with your current set up, just abuse mystic ally/deadly reach kiting. It might seem boring or tedious, but it gets the job done with minimal gear (~700 resist, 30k hp, 8-9k armor). Mystic ally is a beast and will tank everything + block pathways for you, so you can clear the game with only a 300 LoH gem in your weapon.
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On July 02 2012 15:22 Daozzt wrote:
The only thing LoH does is let you face tank a group of mobs for like 2 seconds longer than someone without it. If you don't want to gear for LoH, you have to kite a little more often, simple as that.
Or you just want to clear inferno with your current set up, just abuse mystic ally/deadly reach kiting. It might seem boring or tedious, but it gets the job done with minimal gear (~700 resist, 30k hp, 8-9k armor).
What this guy said if you looking to clear inferno. This is what you do.
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On July 02 2012 13:06 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 12:28 YODA_ wrote:On July 02 2012 12:23 Amui wrote:On July 02 2012 12:06 YODA_ wrote:Ok, time for some spec and equipment help. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/I2nIp.jpg) Forgot my ammy :-/ ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lCBNW.jpg) 16k dps, ~6k armor. Here is all my equipment and stats. Currently "facerolling" through Act 2. It's not right click and forget, but I can tank all normal mobs and 90% of elites. I currently have 2.5 million saved up, and need to start upgrading "big items", So my question for all you TL monks who've been to Act 2 and beyond, what item/stats should I look for that would be the wisest investment. What I have now is obviously all bought for less than 1 mil total, with a few items being found, which i think has served me pretty well all things considered. But now that I have a decent bit of money saved up, i need to start prepping for Act 3. So, TL, my next item/items, what should it be, cost/stats? P.S. Don't laugh at my blue ring. :-( 1. Faster weapon(aim for a base speed on the weapon of 1.4+, LoH optional) 2. More resists(aim for 7-800+ with OWE, or ~600+ with resolve) 3. Might need more DPS for Ghom, but shouldn't be too big of a problem. With gear comes DPS. So what you're saying is my next item should be a faster weapon? That would give me my biggest jump in dps/survivability? I have "higher" dps weapons, but I am loathe to give up that 190 dex from my current weapon. Faster weapon gives you more LoH and more spirit, aka more healing. It might not be a dps increase depending on your budget, but it it's probably the single biggest upgrade you could make relative to how much easier content will get.
Ok, last night I found a 705 dps, 1.4 attack per second weapon with 110 dex and 300 LoH. I started dual weilding again, and was very pleased with the new attack speed and additional LoH.
So to edit my original, I now have 17.5k dps, 920 LoH, and 1.45 attack speed.
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On July 02 2012 15:00 Hier wrote:
I have 940 resist all, 8k armor, 30k+ hp, and about 300 LoH. I still get tossed around like a rag doll by act 3 elite packs; I don't get it. Is 1k LoH, at the expense of survivability, really going to help? Getting 1k means pretty much maxing it out on every item that can even have LoH.
300 LoH is nothing. And 1k LoH is not unattainable in any way possible. I have a very, very cheap setup with a few decent found items, as I posted last page. I found an additional 700 dps, 300 LoH weapon for preatty cheap on the AH, about 300k, I think. I also have a ring with 90 dex, 145 LoH, and 5% life that I found(don't currently even use it, because my other rings do more damage and give more life). So what I have is an bargain basement monk that I could equip for 1k+ LoH for a 1k dps decrease. 1k LoH is not even close to maxing out every item that can have it. I could even equip another LoH(socketed with no other stats) on my main as well and do about 1300 LoH if I ever get stuck at a tough spot, and also get another ring if i wanted for an additional 200 LoH for decently cheap. And yes, it makes a HUGE difference. Obviously Act 2 is different from Act 3, but currently going through Act 2 with far worse stats than you minus LoH, my big LoH numbers let me face tank desecrater/molten/plague mobs if I wanted to, it just makes me so nervous seeing my hp doing those HUGE swings so fast, and any CC makes me die instantly. I can literally die in less than a second if my LoH quit working for that small moment in time.
So, TLDR: Get more LoH. 300 is one star amethyst in a socketed weapon. Some weapons(obviously very expensive) can do 900 LoH with nothing else. So no, 1k LoH is not only attainable, but I would say for Act 3, it's probably mandantory.
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On June 30 2012 03:17 Charger wrote:
I posted a few pages back my build and stats and gear after I beat inferno and although it wasn't a faceroll through it wasn't bad at all. If you're looking for a build that you can just sit there and never do any sort of tactical positioning or using your abilities well I'm not sure you'll ever find it.
@charger, first i want to thank you for posting your gear/stats and also for REMINDING me to take another look at it,, i took a good look at your stats and gear and was confused at first because my stats were a little bit better than yours but were very similar, even using the same build except i have resolve instead of transcendence. i also have 500 more LoHit than you yet i was having a way harder time in act 3 it seemed as compared to you.
what i failed to realize was your block%. it was at 33% as compared to my 20%. unless my memory fails me i think I've read in this thread someone saying that block% is not as important on a shield for a monk as resistance. that is definitely false for me and my lazy playstyle. i switched out my 79AR 58FireR 20% block for a 25% block 57fireR, got a helm of command and justice lantern for a total of 44% block. my AR with OwE went from 800-900 to 700-800 but now with the extra block% i can pretty much FoT into mobs in Act3 and hold down left click while watching TV spamming serenity and BoH. pretty much standing in arcane desecrate poison etc i never die. i do die to the occasional times when the elites explode upon death and i'm still standing in their affixes with nothing to proc my LoHit and I've yet to realized the elites are all dead lol.
in conclusion. if anyone plays A3 while watching tv, block% is pretty mandatory. don't neglect it.
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Sweeping wind used to proc combination strike, which made it useable imho. Seems it doesn't anymore (1.03? didn't see it in the patchnotes).. anyone else notice this?
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On July 02 2012 22:35 xusam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 03:17 Charger wrote:
I posted a few pages back my build and stats and gear after I beat inferno and although it wasn't a faceroll through it wasn't bad at all. If you're looking for a build that you can just sit there and never do any sort of tactical positioning or using your abilities well I'm not sure you'll ever find it. @charger, first i want to thank you for posting your gear/stats and also for REMINDING me to take another look at it,, i took a good look at your stats and gear and was confused at first because my stats were a little bit better than yours but were very similar, even using the same build except i have resolve instead of transcendence. i also have 500 more LoHit than you yet i was having a way harder time in act 3 it seemed as compared to you. what i failed to realize was your block%. it was at 33% as compared to my 20%. unless my memory fails me i think I've read in this thread someone saying that block% is not as important on a shield for a monk as resistance. that is definitely false for me and my lazy playstyle. i switched out my 79AR 58FireR 20% block for a 25% block 57fireR, got a helm of command and justice lantern for a total of 44% block. my AR with OwE went from 800-900 to 700-800 but now with the extra block% i can pretty much FoT into mobs in Act3 and hold down left click while watching TV spamming serenity and BoH. pretty much standing in arcane desecrate poison etc i never die. i do die to the occasional times when the elites explode upon death and i'm still standing in their affixes with nothing to proc my LoHit and I've yet to realized the elites are all dead lol. in conclusion. if anyone plays A3 while watching tv, block% is pretty mandatory. don't neglect it.
Glad to hear it 
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On July 02 2012 20:23 YODA_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 13:06 Amui wrote:On July 02 2012 12:28 YODA_ wrote:On July 02 2012 12:23 Amui wrote:On July 02 2012 12:06 YODA_ wrote:Ok, time for some spec and equipment help. Forgot my ammy :-/ 16k dps, ~6k armor. Here is all my equipment and stats. Currently "facerolling" through Act 2. It's not right click and forget, but I can tank all normal mobs and 90% of elites. I currently have 2.5 million saved up, and need to start upgrading "big items", So my question for all you TL monks who've been to Act 2 and beyond, what item/stats should I look for that would be the wisest investment. What I have now is obviously all bought for less than 1 mil total, with a few items being found, which i think has served me pretty well all things considered. But now that I have a decent bit of money saved up, i need to start prepping for Act 3. So, TL, my next item/items, what should it be, cost/stats? P.S. Don't laugh at my blue ring. :-( 1. Faster weapon(aim for a base speed on the weapon of 1.4+, LoH optional) 2. More resists(aim for 7-800+ with OWE, or ~600+ with resolve) 3. Might need more DPS for Ghom, but shouldn't be too big of a problem. With gear comes DPS. So what you're saying is my next item should be a faster weapon? That would give me my biggest jump in dps/survivability? I have "higher" dps weapons, but I am loathe to give up that 190 dex from my current weapon. Faster weapon gives you more LoH and more spirit, aka more healing. It might not be a dps increase depending on your budget, but it it's probably the single biggest upgrade you could make relative to how much easier content will get. Ok, last night I found a 705 dps, 1.4 attack per second weapon with 110 dex and 300 LoH. I started dual weilding again, and was very pleased with the new attack speed and additional LoH. So to edit my original, I now have 17.5k dps, 920 LoH, and 1.45 attack speed.
Found a 800dps dagger with 10% ias, and 65% crit dmg. Socketed it with an Ammy. Then found a 400 DPS fist weapon with 611 LoH socketed that with a Emerald. With ouroboros im at 1.2k loh now. so stoked on my find
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On July 03 2012 04:40 Jisall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 20:23 YODA_ wrote:On July 02 2012 13:06 Amui wrote:On July 02 2012 12:28 YODA_ wrote:On July 02 2012 12:23 Amui wrote:On July 02 2012 12:06 YODA_ wrote:Ok, time for some spec and equipment help. Forgot my ammy :-/ 16k dps, ~6k armor. Here is all my equipment and stats. Currently "facerolling" through Act 2. It's not right click and forget, but I can tank all normal mobs and 90% of elites. I currently have 2.5 million saved up, and need to start upgrading "big items", So my question for all you TL monks who've been to Act 2 and beyond, what item/stats should I look for that would be the wisest investment. What I have now is obviously all bought for less than 1 mil total, with a few items being found, which i think has served me pretty well all things considered. But now that I have a decent bit of money saved up, i need to start prepping for Act 3. So, TL, my next item/items, what should it be, cost/stats? P.S. Don't laugh at my blue ring. :-( 1. Faster weapon(aim for a base speed on the weapon of 1.4+, LoH optional) 2. More resists(aim for 7-800+ with OWE, or ~600+ with resolve) 3. Might need more DPS for Ghom, but shouldn't be too big of a problem. With gear comes DPS. So what you're saying is my next item should be a faster weapon? That would give me my biggest jump in dps/survivability? I have "higher" dps weapons, but I am loathe to give up that 190 dex from my current weapon. Faster weapon gives you more LoH and more spirit, aka more healing. It might not be a dps increase depending on your budget, but it it's probably the single biggest upgrade you could make relative to how much easier content will get. Ok, last night I found a 705 dps, 1.4 attack per second weapon with 110 dex and 300 LoH. I started dual weilding again, and was very pleased with the new attack speed and additional LoH. So to edit my original, I now have 17.5k dps, 920 LoH, and 1.45 attack speed. Found a 800dps dagger with 10% ias, and 65% crit dmg. Socketed it with an Ammy. Then found a 400 DPS fist weapon with 611 LoH socketed that with a Emerald. With ouroboros im at 1.2k loh now. so stoked on my find
What is your dps now?
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Stupid question, but if I have 500 LoH on one weapon and I dual wield, I'll only get 500 hp every two hits (for each hit with the weapon which has the 500 LoH), right?
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On July 03 2012 08:41 kwizach wrote:
Stupid question, but if I have 500 LoH on one weapon and I dual wield, I'll only get 500 hp every two hits (for each hit with the weapon which has the 500 LoH), right?
No, LoH is a global stat like dex, crit, crit dmg, etc.
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On May 18 2012 08:59 xBlest wrote:
what do you guys use dashing strike for? For attack or to escape both maybe? I saw a lot of people using this but idk what for
everything. with the last rune actually pretty sick vs bosses. Also to increase ur speed, to escape, etcetc
personally running HC inferno and gotta say, dashing strike and serenity are the only mmmmust for monk. Blind <<< DS on hc
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On July 03 2012 08:44 Daozzt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 08:41 kwizach wrote:
Stupid question, but if I have 500 LoH on one weapon and I dual wield, I'll only get 500 hp every two hits (for each hit with the weapon which has the 500 LoH), right? No, LoH is a global stat like dex, crit, crit dmg, etc.
Thanks!
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On July 03 2012 08:53 HQuality wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 08:59 xBlest wrote:
what do you guys use dashing strike for? For attack or to escape both maybe? I saw a lot of people using this but idk what for everything. with the last rune actually pretty sick vs bosses. Also to increase ur speed, to escape, etcetc personally running HC inferno and gotta say, dashing strike and serenity are the only mmmmust for monk. Blind <<< DS on hc
How far are you in inferno? I'm at HC butcher now and don't really know what sort of stats I should have to be safe.
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On July 03 2012 09:03 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 08:53 HQuality wrote:On May 18 2012 08:59 xBlest wrote:
what do you guys use dashing strike for? For attack or to escape both maybe? I saw a lot of people using this but idk what for everything. with the last rune actually pretty sick vs bosses. Also to increase ur speed, to escape, etcetc personally running HC inferno and gotta say, dashing strike and serenity are the only mmmmust for monk. Blind <<< DS on hc How far are you in inferno? I'm at HC butcher now and don't really know what sort of stats I should have to be safe.
A II
dunno man, i was on 800 res, 500 loh, 450 hp/sec, about 17k dps, not quite sure about hp, but not that high at all. Killed slightly after enrage so first of all u have to make sure ur dps is high enough
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i thought the minimum to beat butcher before enrage was like 10k or 12k dps. perhaps i'm wrong, but i'm almost certain it's not 17k. i think you were just playing too scared if you hit enrage o.o
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On July 03 2012 09:14 HQuality wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:03 Dfgj wrote:On July 03 2012 08:53 HQuality wrote:On May 18 2012 08:59 xBlest wrote:
what do you guys use dashing strike for? For attack or to escape both maybe? I saw a lot of people using this but idk what for everything. with the last rune actually pretty sick vs bosses. Also to increase ur speed, to escape, etcetc personally running HC inferno and gotta say, dashing strike and serenity are the only mmmmust for monk. Blind <<< DS on hc How far are you in inferno? I'm at HC butcher now and don't really know what sort of stats I should have to be safe. A II dunno man, i was on 800 res, 500 loh, 450 hp/sec, about 17k dps, not quite sure about hp, but not that high at all. Killed slightly after enrage so first of all u have to make sure ur dps is high enough
Hm ok.
I'm at 670 res 950 loh 11k~ dps 7k armor, I'll keep raising res and dps before trying it. Not getting him down before enraged is my big worry.
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On July 03 2012 09:18 wooozy wrote:
i thought the minimum to beat butcher before enrage was like 10k or 12k dps. perhaps i'm wrong, but i'm almost certain it's not 17k. i think you were just playing too scared if you hit enrage o.o
well on hc u kinda scared sometimes) since i don't even know how much dps he's doing to me when i entering the room :D so yeah was running a little bit
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On July 03 2012 08:21 YODA_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 04:40 Jisall wrote:On July 02 2012 20:23 YODA_ wrote:On July 02 2012 13:06 Amui wrote:On July 02 2012 12:28 YODA_ wrote:On July 02 2012 12:23 Amui wrote:On July 02 2012 12:06 YODA_ wrote:Ok, time for some spec and equipment help. Forgot my ammy :-/ 16k dps, ~6k armor. Here is all my equipment and stats. Currently "facerolling" through Act 2. It's not right click and forget, but I can tank all normal mobs and 90% of elites. I currently have 2.5 million saved up, and need to start upgrading "big items", So my question for all you TL monks who've been to Act 2 and beyond, what item/stats should I look for that would be the wisest investment. What I have now is obviously all bought for less than 1 mil total, with a few items being found, which i think has served me pretty well all things considered. But now that I have a decent bit of money saved up, i need to start prepping for Act 3. So, TL, my next item/items, what should it be, cost/stats? P.S. Don't laugh at my blue ring. :-( 1. Faster weapon(aim for a base speed on the weapon of 1.4+, LoH optional) 2. More resists(aim for 7-800+ with OWE, or ~600+ with resolve) 3. Might need more DPS for Ghom, but shouldn't be too big of a problem. With gear comes DPS. So what you're saying is my next item should be a faster weapon? That would give me my biggest jump in dps/survivability? I have "higher" dps weapons, but I am loathe to give up that 190 dex from my current weapon. Faster weapon gives you more LoH and more spirit, aka more healing. It might not be a dps increase depending on your budget, but it it's probably the single biggest upgrade you could make relative to how much easier content will get. Ok, last night I found a 705 dps, 1.4 attack per second weapon with 110 dex and 300 LoH. I started dual weilding again, and was very pleased with the new attack speed and additional LoH. So to edit my original, I now have 17.5k dps, 920 LoH, and 1.45 attack speed. Found a 800dps dagger with 10% ias, and 65% crit dmg. Socketed it with an Ammy. Then found a 400 DPS fist weapon with 611 LoH socketed that with a Emerald. With ouroboros im at 1.2k loh now. so stoked on my find What is your dps now?
A lowsy 11k. I have 20% crit for 110% dmg and 1k dex. I hit for 1.7-1.9 hits per second, just need some more crit dmg n dex im assuming
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