Monk - Builds/Discussion - Page 84

On July 03 2012 09:03 Dfgj wrote:

How far are you in inferno? I'm at HC butcher now and don't really know what sort of stats I should have to be safe.

On July 03 2012 21:43 waspinator wrote:
I would LOVE some tips on my stats and gear. Any would be super appreciated. I feel like I should be able to do A3, but for some reason, I just can't. I can fart my way to Ghom while dying repeatedly, then get owned by Ghom anyway so it made no real difference.


http://i.imgur.com/COSlG.jpg
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Fists of Thunder - Thunderclap
Blinding Flash - FitL
Breath of Heaven - Blazing Wrath
Serenity - Ascension
Sweeping Wind - Cyclone
Mantra of Healing - ToN

OWE - Resolve - StI

I've been told I need to raise my armor -- but I don't know HOW. I've even tried using shields and they seemed to give no real noticeable gain. Blah. I only have 2 million gold and there's not much I know what/to/how to upgrade at this point. Am I just gearing for the wrong bonus effects on my items? I just don't know.

On July 03 2012 20:43 YODA_ wrote:



This is SC, so take it with a grain of salt, but as a monk that has done many, many butcher runs and never really even come close to dying.

30k hp, 550 resist, 5.5k armor, 17k dps, 900 LoH, dual wielding.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aXjihg!YXU!abccaY

I can just about face tank him in the fire and not lose hp.

On July 03 2012 22:31 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I cant live without blinding flash, ive gone without it for an hour and I havent died so many times in such a short span

Thanks. Looks like I'm behind you on dps by far so that's my next target to improve before I take that sucker down.

On July 04 2012 00:12 YODA_ wrote:

I thought the same as you for a long time, but I wasn't using Fot/teleport rune a the time, had 0 loH, and wasn't using a mantra or sweeping wind. What is your build?




Obviously you have to stack a lot of hp in HC, and the playstyle is different, but I think tank monk is much more dangerous to play long term than dps monk. A lot of the monk's playstyle/effectiveness comes from serenity and damage mitigation skills, which leave him quite lacking in the dps department. So building even more tanky makes killing things take forever, while a bad elite combo can still completely screw you over regardless of tankiness because of how long it takes to kill some of them with low dps. Or just affixes like waller, vortex, descrator, plagued on enemies with knockback or huge one shot power like those giant mace swinging dudes. Tank monk has much more opportunity to get screwed over by a bad break than dps monk, which probably burst down the entire pack in 20 seconds, 4 of which was spent completely invulnerable.

On July 04 2012 00:22 Dfgj wrote:

I've been liking Blinding Flash for being able to rush in (with the short damage buff), pummel an elite pack and then retreat safely before arcane/desecrator/frozen/everything else sets in. Does it really lose out that hard to Dashing Strike in terms of overall utility?

I'm probably finding value in it because of what you say - I have 950 loh 670~ allres and 7k armor, but only 11k dps or so.

On July 04 2012 11:38 Pwere wrote:
I tried Ghom as I heard he was challenging. Took me about 2h to do all the quests from beginning of Act 3 (apparently I only had Quests 1-6-7). Then I tried Ghom without switching skills, but I just couldn't kill him fast enough before enrage, so I had to give up my nephalem stacks and go with Overawe + BoH. I died when he had 300k left 1st try, 100k 2nd try, and got him on the 3rd try even though I ran out of potions (not that useful anyway). I'd say these are close to the minimum stats a monk can have to kill Ghom, and this is a good build to do it with. Basically, my gear is the crap I couldn't sell on the RMAH when it came out, plus MF gear/cheap items I bought to fill in the blanks, so there is no reason any monk even trying can't kill him.

Stats + Gear
Build

Feel free to ask any question...

As for the previous discussion, I've never taken Blind off my skill bar since I first put it there. BoH is the one you should take out for Ally/DS imo. Blind is simply way too good. I'd take Blind twice if I could.

On July 04 2012 00:35 YODA_ wrote:


I actually don't use DS at all right now because I can face tank almost anything in Act 1/2. But when I did, it was better, because it is basically a get out of jail free card available whenever you had 10 spirit(the rune i usually ran, in HC i might use the 25% ms rune), rather than every 15 seconds. BF is useful on bosses for the ability interrupt, but that's what serenity and spamming your evasion mantra are for. Once you get decent dps normal mobs aren't a threat any more, and the blind only interrupts elites for a second, max, and doesn't get you out of jailer/waller/desacrator/plagued etc.

TLDR: Just way too much utility for DS once you have decent dps.

Oh, and for more dps, and losing all utility(like me :-D), try SW:cyclone rune instead of BF for the AoE burst damage. The cyclone hits also proc LoH, so If you're surrounded by hundreds of trash mobs you are literally unkillable with 950 LoH because of how many tornadoes spawn and proc LoH. Watching your hp globe is hilarious during crowded fights like this. And scary, because you realize how much you are depending on LoH, and wondering how Blizzard is going to nerf it.