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On July 02 2012 03:57 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 02:16 Pwere wrote:
Monks are better than barb at everything up to Act 2 inferno. With good gear, barbs become ridiculously powerful at everything, except clearing inferno on a budget. hmm, which one would be better for act3 inferno runs if i have a budget of 10-20M: monk or barb? Both are equally bad. You can't farm act 3 efficiently on that budget with either. By that I mean that it will always be better for you to farm act 1 or 2 below at least 50M, probably closer to 100M if you want some sort of MF gear.On July 02 2012 03:06 shrinkmaster wrote:could someone plz help me with upgrading my gear? i recently killed azmodan with a defensive spec but i really really want to farm act3 with my dual-wield spec and i don't know which items to upgrade first. my current gear and stats http://imgur.com/WP4IY I'd start with bracers; they're terrible. Your helm seems pretty bad too, and then your pants. You can easily upgrade those for less than 1M a piece. I'd suggest to sell your amulet and buy something that's actually good for monks. Belts, shoulders, chests and shields are pretty hard to upgrade, so good luck with those. Your rings are bad too, but it's also something hard to shop for. Basically I only like your weapons, boots and gloves =)
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On July 02 2012 04:49 Pwere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 03:06 shrinkmaster wrote:could someone plz help me with upgrading my gear? i recently killed azmodan with a defensive spec but i really really want to farm act3 with my dual-wield spec and i don't know which items to upgrade first. my current gear and stats http://imgur.com/WP4IY I'd start with bracers; they're terrible. Your helm seems pretty bad too, and then your pants. You can easily upgrade those for less than 1M a piece. I'd suggest to sell your amulet and buy something that's actually good for monks. Belts, shoulders, chests and shields are pretty hard to upgrade, so good luck with those. Your rings are bad too, but it's also something hard to shop for. Basically I only like your weapons, boots and gloves =)
thanks for your answer first. really appreciate anyone helping me.
but wow those us auction house prices are really low. bracers like mine go for 1M++ and an update with more dex and maybe crit would cost me probably 2M-4M gold if i don't want to lose a lot of defensive stats.
could you maybe post your gear so i could get a feeling for which combination of stats i should work towards.
would you say that i'm allowed to lose a litte bit of resistance and armor to upgrade my dps or should i maintain my current level of defense while upgrading my gear?
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On July 02 2012 04:49 Pwere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 03:57 Black Gun wrote:On July 02 2012 02:16 Pwere wrote:
Monks are better than barb at everything up to Act 2 inferno. With good gear, barbs become ridiculously powerful at everything, except clearing inferno on a budget. hmm, which one would be better for act3 inferno runs if i have a budget of 10-20M: monk or barb? Both are equally bad. You can't farm act 3 efficiently on that budget with either. By that I mean that it will always be better for you to farm act 1 or 2 below at least 50M, probably closer to 100M if you want some sort of MF gear. Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 03:06 shrinkmaster wrote:could someone plz help me with upgrading my gear? i recently killed azmodan with a defensive spec but i really really want to farm act3 with my dual-wield spec and i don't know which items to upgrade first. my current gear and stats http://imgur.com/WP4IY I'd start with bracers; they're terrible. Your helm seems pretty bad too, and then your pants. You can easily upgrade those for less than 1M a piece. I'd suggest to sell your amulet and buy something that's actually good for monks. Belts, shoulders, chests and shields are pretty hard to upgrade, so good luck with those. Your rings are bad too, but it's also something hard to shop for. Basically I only like your weapons, boots and gloves =)
Gonna go out on a limb and say you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to monk.
To start with the first post you replied to, you can farm act3 easily with a budget of 10-20 million on a monk. My current monk is running with 49k HP, 700 resist all, 21k dps, 6.6k armor and 400+ LoH. The total cost of my gear was under 10million. So as long as you take some time to look for a gear and don't expect to buy it all in 36 hours you will find what you need over 2-4 days and be ready to go. Not gonna go further into it outside of that.
To the second post you responded to, you clearly have no idea what good gear is. My above stats remain the same and I can free farm act 3 or 4. Therefore the individuals gear is not bad, all his stats are higher then mine. Perhaps his playstyle needs changing maybe not enough kiting or just some absent minded standing in ground damage hard to say without further information. You could sub out the ring with no Dex and find something with same stats with dex and no resist, 850 is overkill. Your ring you are wearing is easily worth 2-3mil+.
While farming act 3 I run : Way of hundred fists ( windforce ), Sweeping Wind ( firestorm ), Serenity (peaceful response), Breath of Heaven (blazing wrath), Blinding Flash (Faith in the Light), and Mantra of Conviction (overawe)
With this build I cruise through all of act 3 with the above mentioned stats. When I go into act 4 I change out Mantra of Conviction for Mantra of Evasion (hard target) and that is it. From time to time I have alittle bit of trouble with champs with 3 ground damage affix's, but other than that with the 45% nerf to inferno damage it is cruise control.
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Hey! Sorry guys, I wasn't able to come back online until this evening. Thanks a lot to Ryukku, Charger, Pwere, semantics and YODA_ for the advice :-) I'll get as much LoH as possible to beat Ghom and try dual wielding in the process (I've only played with a shield until now). If you have any other advice regarding my gear for the rest of Act 3/Act 4 (post is on p. 80), don't hesitate to fire away, but given that I don't have much time to play and not a lot of money either, I probably won't have much left for a while after getting the gear for Ghom :p
Cheers!
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On July 02 2012 05:47 yurta wrote:
To the second post you responded to, you clearly have no idea what good gear is. My above stats remain the same and I can free farm act 3 or 4. Therefore the individuals gear is not bad, all his stats are higher then mine. Perhaps his playstyle needs changing maybe not enough kiting or just some absent minded standing in ground damage hard to say without further information. You could sub out the ring with no Dex and find something with same stats with dex and no resist, 850 is overkill. Your ring you are wearing is easily worth 2-3mil+.
While farming act 3 I run : Way of hundred fists ( windforce ), Sweeping Wind ( firestorm ), Serenity (peaceful response), Breath of Heaven (blazing wrath), Blinding Flash (Faith in the Light), and Mantra of Conviction (overawe)
With this build I cruise through all of act 3 with the above mentioned stats. When I go into act 4 I change out Mantra of Conviction for Mantra of Evasion (hard target) and that is it. From time to time I have alittle bit of trouble with champs with 3 ground damage affix's, but other than that with the 45% nerf to inferno damage it is cruise control.
hm maybe you're right and my playstyle is the problem. i generally dislike kiting as melee and consider it boring as hell. of course i will move out of damage effects like desecrate, arcane-shit etc.
do you dual-wield in a3 or use a shield? the stats from the screenshot are obviously while dual-wielding.
why do you use wohf over fot? just personal preference or another reason? maybe i should give it a try.
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On July 02 2012 06:03 shrinkmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 05:47 yurta wrote:
To the second post you responded to, you clearly have no idea what good gear is. My above stats remain the same and I can free farm act 3 or 4. Therefore the individuals gear is not bad, all his stats are higher then mine. Perhaps his playstyle needs changing maybe not enough kiting or just some absent minded standing in ground damage hard to say without further information. You could sub out the ring with no Dex and find something with same stats with dex and no resist, 850 is overkill. Your ring you are wearing is easily worth 2-3mil+.
While farming act 3 I run : Way of hundred fists ( windforce ), Sweeping Wind ( firestorm ), Serenity (peaceful response), Breath of Heaven (blazing wrath), Blinding Flash (Faith in the Light), and Mantra of Conviction (overawe)
With this build I cruise through all of act 3 with the above mentioned stats. When I go into act 4 I change out Mantra of Conviction for Mantra of Evasion (hard target) and that is it. From time to time I have alittle bit of trouble with champs with 3 ground damage affix's, but other than that with the 45% nerf to inferno damage it is cruise control.
hm maybe you're right and my playstyle is the problem. i generally dislike kiting as melee and consider it boring as hell. of course i will move out of damage effects like desecrate, arcane-shit etc. do you dual-wield in a3 or use a shield? the stats from the screenshot are obviously while dual-wielding. why do you use wohf over fot? just personal preference or another reason? maybe i should give it a try.
I use wohf because my helm has a bonus 10% damage, but it is also just what I am currently using. I switch my punches every few days for fun because I don't find the content difficult. I only use a shield I don't see a purpose to dual-wielding mostly because I don't want to be forced into the 15% dodge passive to make up for the loss in the defensive stats from wearing and shield.
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On July 02 2012 05:47 yurta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 04:49 Pwere wrote:On July 02 2012 03:57 Black Gun wrote:On July 02 2012 02:16 Pwere wrote:
Monks are better than barb at everything up to Act 2 inferno. With good gear, barbs become ridiculously powerful at everything, except clearing inferno on a budget. hmm, which one would be better for act3 inferno runs if i have a budget of 10-20M: monk or barb? Both are equally bad. You can't farm act 3 efficiently on that budget with either. By that I mean that it will always be better for you to farm act 1 or 2 below at least 50M, probably closer to 100M if you want some sort of MF gear. On July 02 2012 03:06 shrinkmaster wrote:could someone plz help me with upgrading my gear? i recently killed azmodan with a defensive spec but i really really want to farm act3 with my dual-wield spec and i don't know which items to upgrade first. my current gear and stats http://imgur.com/WP4IY I'd start with bracers; they're terrible. Your helm seems pretty bad too, and then your pants. You can easily upgrade those for less than 1M a piece. I'd suggest to sell your amulet and buy something that's actually good for monks. Belts, shoulders, chests and shields are pretty hard to upgrade, so good luck with those. Your rings are bad too, but it's also something hard to shop for. Basically I only like your weapons, boots and gloves =) Gonna go out on a limb and say you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to monk. To start with the first post you replied to, you can farm act3 easily with a budget of 10-20 million on a monk. My current monk is running with 49k HP, 700 resist all, 21k dps, 6.6k armor and 400+ LoH. The total cost of my gear was under 10million. So as long as you take some time to look for a gear and don't expect to buy it all in 36 hours you will find what you need over 2-4 days and be ready to go. Not gonna go further into it outside of that. To the second post you responded to, you clearly have no idea what good gear is. My above stats remain the same and I can free farm act 3 or 4. Therefore the individuals gear is not bad, all his stats are higher then mine. Perhaps his playstyle needs changing maybe not enough kiting or just some absent minded standing in ground damage hard to say without further information. You could sub out the ring with no Dex and find something with same stats with dex and no resist, 850 is overkill. Your ring you are wearing is easily worth 2-3mil+. While farming act 3 I run : Way of hundred fists ( windforce ), Sweeping Wind ( firestorm ), Serenity (peaceful response), Breath of Heaven (blazing wrath), Blinding Flash (Faith in the Light), and Mantra of Conviction (overawe) With this build I cruise through all of act 3 with the above mentioned stats. When I go into act 4 I change out Mantra of Conviction for Mantra of Evasion (hard target) and that is it. From time to time I have alittle bit of trouble with champs with 3 ground damage affix's, but other than that with the 45% nerf to inferno damage it is cruise control. Yeah, I know nothing about Monk, that would make sense. Read some of my posts and find out.
Or you simply misunderstood (let's say we miscommunicated). The word efficiently is the key. You cannot farm act 3 with monk/barb as fast as ranged classes, nor will it ever be clearly better than Act 1 or 2 on a budget. Of course you can farm Act 3 easily with cheap gear. Mine is currently worth around 8M total (bought for much less), and I can farm act 3 in a reasonable time with 80%+ mf. But Act 1 and 2 are still better. Barbs geared in 100M+ suits farm Act 2 and 3 about as efficiently, but they can mess around more in Act 2.
As for my item recommendations, I was a bit harsh overall; you could replace everything from bad to good with Fine to Amazing. It wouldn't change the order in which he should upgrade his gear. I'm simply comparing them to the gear I had or those that post here. Sure, his bracers are worth something, but that's because they have allres instead of cold resist. You can find similar (cold) bracers for 100k on US AH, and very good bracers for less than 1M (130dex, 90vit, 100res, with something else like armor, life regen, ranged % reduction or MF). Seems like an easy enough spot to upgrade. Same with his helm. It's basically 70 vit, 90 res. You can find better for 100k on US AH in seconds.
Compare that to his weapons, which are worth at least 10x more and form a pretty good combo, and you should consider his bracers/helm really bad. One of his ring isn't worth much, and the other is worth a lot but just isn't very good for him. Then you look at his boots, and you realize that a decent upgrade would cost millions.
I do admit that I didn't consider that EU AH might still have overpriced decent monk gear. But if that's the case, then farming act 1-2 should be relatively more profitable, as ilvl 60-61 won't be basically worthless.
As for FoT vs WotHF, it shouldn't be a close call if you are decently geared and farming. FoT:Thunderclap offers more damage and spirit, and more LoHit per swing. Controlling the teleport is really annoying however, so the dodge rune is always an option. If the teleport didn't activate when you hold Shift, it would by far be the best Spirit Generator.
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it doesn't teleport if you shift and click behind mobs (not targeting anything), but it's not always reliable 'cause of how huge the hit boxes are on some mobs
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On July 02 2012 05:47 yurta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 04:49 Pwere wrote:On July 02 2012 03:57 Black Gun wrote:On July 02 2012 02:16 Pwere wrote:
Monks are better than barb at everything up to Act 2 inferno. With good gear, barbs become ridiculously powerful at everything, except clearing inferno on a budget. hmm, which one would be better for act3 inferno runs if i have a budget of 10-20M: monk or barb? Both are equally bad. You can't farm act 3 efficiently on that budget with either. By that I mean that it will always be better for you to farm act 1 or 2 below at least 50M, probably closer to 100M if you want some sort of MF gear. On July 02 2012 03:06 shrinkmaster wrote:could someone plz help me with upgrading my gear? i recently killed azmodan with a defensive spec but i really really want to farm act3 with my dual-wield spec and i don't know which items to upgrade first. my current gear and stats http://imgur.com/WP4IY I'd start with bracers; they're terrible. Your helm seems pretty bad too, and then your pants. You can easily upgrade those for less than 1M a piece. I'd suggest to sell your amulet and buy something that's actually good for monks. Belts, shoulders, chests and shields are pretty hard to upgrade, so good luck with those. Your rings are bad too, but it's also something hard to shop for. Basically I only like your weapons, boots and gloves =) Gonna go out on a limb and say you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to monk. To start with the first post you replied to, you can farm act3 easily with a budget of 10-20 million on a monk. My current monk is running with 49k HP, 700 resist all, 21k dps, 6.6k armor and 400+ LoH. The total cost of my gear was under 10million. So as long as you take some time to look for a gear and don't expect to buy it all in 36 hours you will find what you need over 2-4 days and be ready to go. Not gonna go further into it outside of that. To the second post you responded to, you clearly have no idea what good gear is. My above stats remain the same and I can free farm act 3 or 4. Therefore the individuals gear is not bad, all his stats are higher then mine. Perhaps his playstyle needs changing maybe not enough kiting or just some absent minded standing in ground damage hard to say without further information. You could sub out the ring with no Dex and find something with same stats with dex and no resist, 850 is overkill. Your ring you are wearing is easily worth 2-3mil+. While farming act 3 I run : Way of hundred fists ( windforce ), Sweeping Wind ( firestorm ), Serenity (peaceful response), Breath of Heaven (blazing wrath), Blinding Flash (Faith in the Light), and Mantra of Conviction (overawe) With this build I cruise through all of act 3 with the above mentioned stats. When I go into act 4 I change out Mantra of Conviction for Mantra of Evasion (hard target) and that is it. From time to time I have alittle bit of trouble with champs with 3 ground damage affix's, but other than that with the 45% nerf to inferno damage it is cruise control.
I'm at 700 resist all, 7k armor, 18k hp, 10k dps, 1.2k LoH and I can clear act two with ease. Farming belial for a while now. Once i get more DPS and HP i can farm act 3, as of right now it takes to long to kill stuff to be profitable, but it is doable for me.
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the teleport on fot is awesome, it is just a matter of getting used to it. it gives you superd dps uptime and you can actually dodge a lot of the ground affixed with it.
becouse d3 is a game without real skill i prefer to say you need a couple hours to get used to the new gamestyle. as long as you are not fully crap geared there is zero reason to run deadly reach or wothf becouse they are so much weaker in terms of dps and sustain.
gear for farming act depends if you play solo or grp, i run a lot with friends so i mostly go dual wield with 2 socket weps for 1.5k life on hit with a lot of ias ( it is still very strong ) for the extra tankiness. in solo play i prefer a crit build with a shield
( 10% crit cant pass it up ) and sweeping wind / cyclone.
you burn mobs down so fast you can sacrafice a lot of loh and resi and just life of life orbs. worst case scenaria you kite some of the blue packs till serenity is up again and burn one down in the 4sek + blind dps boost.
i feel monk is very good for farming since you only die if you get greedy or have the occasinal (sp?) bad luck and die to a well timed vortex / wall / firechain / molten one or two times till you dps them down.
i would say aim for around 40k hp 700 resi 30k dps unbuffed 30% crit on crit build with shield or 40k hp 800+ resi 20k dps 1k+ life on hit with dual wield. dont neglect ias still get it on your amu / gloves / rings over most of the other shit it is still that good not only for dps but sustain spirit and quality of gameplay imo. hope this helps!
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Yeah, that's what I meant by 'annoying to control'. If you mouse over a random barrel it teleports. If a you have to fight top to bottom, you have very little room to find empty space. It's just a huge mess. The fact that this is our best skill by far is one thing that makes farming with a Monk really frustrating. If other spirit generators had 300%+ LoHit per combo, good AoE, decent speed/damage, stunlock and a way to kill goblins/runners, the teleport would never get used because of how much energy you waste controlling it.
eccokk, you are right on basically everything. However, having good dps/crit gear on a budget is a challenging endeavour. It's usually easier to get decent gear with MF and farm one act lower and still kill everything pretty fast.
Also, blizzard mentioned that they will nerf MF gear swapping, so getting good gear with MF now is a pretty good idea, while getting crit gear might get the IAS treatment (but it is also currently the best gear by far).
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you are right about the budget, i was in the lucky position to run to azmodan act3 runs as basicly a mf puppet with a good dh friend of mine so i guess i was in a much much better position then most of the guys doing butcher runs until 1.03.
we nerded a lot in the first weeks after release, he had 300k dps before the ias nerf and was baiscly godmoding act3 even with me as a useless mf puppet couse he was so overpowered, cashed out his dh on ebay for around 800 euro before 1.03. after getting some ias and loh i was able to solo act3 but it was WAYYYYYY harder then it is now but on the other hand few ppl could farm the content back then so the loot was worth a lot.
we always abused and still abuse mf swapp its just too good, i guess you are right about trying to find decent mf gear but i prefer to farm act3 without mf to act 1 with mf. i have no math to back it up i just hate the idea of putting my "super gear" in the chest and to wear mf gear and farm easy content i dont know though.
if you are low on gold / items go for the "tanky" setup and play with friends, a small tip how i did my setup before i got my crit gear seperatly
(i fell its only superior in solo play and it is super expensive couse its fotm right now and all the dex / crit / critdmg stuff is soooo expensive thx demon hunters TT)
- go for defensiv stats on helm / shoulder / bracer / chest / legs / boots / belt. aim for around 100-150 dex and 100 combined resist ( gloves and boots can have up to 300 dex intstad of 200 like the rest so go for around 200+ there ).
you can get most of these slots for around 1-3mill i would assume.
- get ias on gloves / amu / rings, get loh on rings / amu. these will be more expensive try to snipe a good blackthorn breach for around 5mil. is still run mine together with the legs which are not amazing but good and cheap ( 500k ) and have a decent 2 set bonus ( 100 vit ). expect to invest around 2-3mill on rings / gloves each
-get two decent weapons with socket and get the 300+ loh gems in there
( around 800dps, if they have dex or ias or sth its a nice bonus but dont kill yourself over a weapon ) around 5+mill maybe
i would say you can get these items for around 30 mill which does not sound cheap but all you really need is 2-3 real good drops and you are set. dont panic the first couple millions are the hardest and once you can farm act3 you will always get some good loot in the long run.
melee will outsacle the class canons imo, its just way hardet to get started couse you need soooo many different stats and cant skip a single one of them. you NEED resi you NEED loh you NEED ias you NEED dex you NEED vit.
run this spec
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#agYXik!ZXU!aYcbZa
with this setup you will facetank act3 everything but molten / firechains / desecrator. even though d3 is a low skillcap game you can do a lot of good stuff with your friends like splitting up firechain mobs, or pull away some of the small mobs while you tank the yellow one and shit like that.
obv hard to pull of in a random game but i think you could easily find some nice players on tl if you lack some "nerdfriends" ;D
all this is up for discussion of course i dont say i hold the only truth, i hope to read some new ideas and learn some new things !
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Does anyone know how sweeping wind damage is calculated? Specifically, how often it "ticks" and whether that tick frequency is a set value inherent to the ability or based off of some percentage of attack speed? Some interesting things could be done with that information, either way. Also, is this one of those main-hand calculated (for damage) abilities or does it alternate between main hand/off hand?
Any information on this would be great, as well as a source if possible.
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Instead of going for two decent weapons and socketing expensive gems into them, Monks can abuse the fact that sweeping wind and ally use the main hand* base damage (not attack speed), and get a 800ish dps slow main hand (mace/spear) with 200+dex or simply 900+dps, and a cheap fast offhand (4-500dps) with 800+LoHit (possibly a socket for extra 300+ LoHit). This way you can get both weapons for under 1M and still have a similar result, since most of your damage comes from your slow main hand** anyway.
*I think this actually depends on which weapon will swing next, but there is unfortunately no way afaik to know which weapon will swing next with a monk outside of looking at the attack speed on the character sheet. Anyway, your first SW/Ally will always use main hand, and if you're unsure, you can always unequip your offhand between fights (one more reason to carry a MF shield to finish elites).
**Since your main hand is slower than your off hand, it will spend more time applying its damage in a rotation, meaning that you'll have a much higher damage output with strong&slow + fast&support than the number shown.
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Ok, time for some spec and equipment help.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/I2nIp.jpg)
Forgot my ammy :-/
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lCBNW.jpg)
16k dps, ~6k armor.
Here is all my equipment and stats. Currently "facerolling" through Act 2. It's not right click and forget, but I can tank all normal mobs and 90% of elites. I currently have 2.5 million saved up, and need to start upgrading "big items", So my question for all you TL monks who've been to Act 2 and beyond, what item/stats should I look for that would be the wisest investment. What I have now is obviously all bought for less than 1 mil total, with a few items being found, which i think has served me pretty well all things considered. But now that I have a decent bit of money saved up, i need to start prepping for Act 3. So, TL, my next item/items, what should it be, cost/stats?
P.S. Don't laugh at my blue ring. :-(
Edit: Take away sheild, replace with 705 dps, 300 LoH, 110 dex weapon. Attack speed jumps to 1.45, damage goes to almost 18k. LoH now to ~900.
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On July 02 2012 12:06 YODA_ wrote:Ok, time for some spec and equipment help. Forgot my ammy :-/ 16k dps, ~6k armor. Here is all my equipment and stats. Currently "facerolling" through Act 2. It's not right click and forget, but I can tank all normal mobs and 90% of elites. I currently have 2.5 million saved up, and need to start upgrading "big items", So my question for all you TL monks who've been to Act 2 and beyond, what item/stats should I look for that would be the wisest investment. What I have now is obviously all bought for less than 1 mil total, with a few items being found, which i think has served me pretty well all things considered. But now that I have a decent bit of money saved up, i need to start prepping for Act 3. So, TL, my next item/items, what should it be, cost/stats? P.S. Don't laugh at my blue ring. :-(
1. Faster weapon(aim for a base speed on the weapon of 1.4+, LoH optional)
2. More resists(aim for 7-800+ with OWE, or ~600+ with resolve)
3. Might need more DPS for Ghom, but shouldn't be too big of a problem. With gear comes DPS.
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On July 02 2012 12:23 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 12:06 YODA_ wrote:Ok, time for some spec and equipment help. Forgot my ammy :-/ 16k dps, ~6k armor. Here is all my equipment and stats. Currently "facerolling" through Act 2. It's not right click and forget, but I can tank all normal mobs and 90% of elites. I currently have 2.5 million saved up, and need to start upgrading "big items", So my question for all you TL monks who've been to Act 2 and beyond, what item/stats should I look for that would be the wisest investment. What I have now is obviously all bought for less than 1 mil total, with a few items being found, which i think has served me pretty well all things considered. But now that I have a decent bit of money saved up, i need to start prepping for Act 3. So, TL, my next item/items, what should it be, cost/stats? P.S. Don't laugh at my blue ring. :-( 1. Faster weapon(aim for a base speed on the weapon of 1.4+, LoH optional) 2. More resists(aim for 7-800+ with OWE, or ~600+ with resolve) 3. Might need more DPS for Ghom, but shouldn't be too big of a problem. With gear comes DPS.
So what you're saying is my next item should be a faster weapon? That would give me my biggest jump in dps/survivability? I have "higher" dps weapons, but I am loathe to give up that 190 dex from my current weapon.
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On July 02 2012 12:28 YODA_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 12:23 Amui wrote:On July 02 2012 12:06 YODA_ wrote:Ok, time for some spec and equipment help. Forgot my ammy :-/ 16k dps, ~6k armor. Here is all my equipment and stats. Currently "facerolling" through Act 2. It's not right click and forget, but I can tank all normal mobs and 90% of elites. I currently have 2.5 million saved up, and need to start upgrading "big items", So my question for all you TL monks who've been to Act 2 and beyond, what item/stats should I look for that would be the wisest investment. What I have now is obviously all bought for less than 1 mil total, with a few items being found, which i think has served me pretty well all things considered. But now that I have a decent bit of money saved up, i need to start prepping for Act 3. So, TL, my next item/items, what should it be, cost/stats? P.S. Don't laugh at my blue ring. :-( 1. Faster weapon(aim for a base speed on the weapon of 1.4+, LoH optional) 2. More resists(aim for 7-800+ with OWE, or ~600+ with resolve) 3. Might need more DPS for Ghom, but shouldn't be too big of a problem. With gear comes DPS. So what you're saying is my next item should be a faster weapon? That would give me my biggest jump in dps/survivability? I have "higher" dps weapons, but I am loathe to give up that 190 dex from my current weapon.
Faster weapon gives you more LoH and more spirit, aka more healing. It might not be a dps increase depending on your budget, but it it's probably the single biggest upgrade you could make relative to how much easier content will get.
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On July 02 2012 08:28 Pwere wrote:
Instead of going for two decent weapons and socketing expensive gems into them, Monks can abuse the fact that sweeping wind and ally use the main hand* base damage (not attack speed), and get a 800ish dps slow main hand (mace/spear) with 200+dex or simply 900+dps, and a cheap fast offhand (4-500dps) with 800+LoHit (possibly a socket for extra 300+ LoHit). This way you can get both weapons for under 1M and still have a similar result, since most of your damage comes from your slow main hand** anyway.
*I think this actually depends on which weapon will swing next, but there is unfortunately no way afaik to know which weapon will swing next with a monk outside of looking at the attack speed on the character sheet. Anyway, your first SW/Ally will always use main hand, and if you're unsure, you can always unequip your offhand between fights (one more reason to carry a MF shield to finish elites).
**Since your main hand is slower than your off hand, it will spend more time applying its damage in a rotation, meaning that you'll have a much higher damage output with strong&slow + fast&support than the number shown.
I'm not asking as much about gearing (or gearing cheap) as builds. If it is based on some percentage of your attack speed, then getting attack speed looks a lot more attractive. If it has its own static attack speed, then a two hander, or at least slow 1 hander looks better than it might initially.
I'm trying builds besides the cookie cutter Fot/Thunderclap, sweeping wind, conviction spam that basically every monk runs, if for no other reason than to do something different (even if it is "worse"). Gear largely isn't an issue.
So if anyone actually knows how sweeping wind gets its attack speed, that would be great (source would be ideal, or at least how you know/tested it).
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I have 940 resist all, 8k armor, 30k+ hp, and about 300 LoH. I still get tossed around like a rag doll by act 3 elite packs; I don't get it. Is 1k LoH, at the expense of survivability, really going to help? Getting 1k means pretty much maxing it out on every item that can even have LoH.
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