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Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 21:29:03
April 30 2013 21:25 GMT
#2721
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
May 04 2013 15:45 GMT
#2722
playing barb now on MP10, tired of getting a good monk ... just way too expensive, barbs don't need to get a good equip to do more dmg than the average monks .. :/
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
May 04 2013 21:48 GMT
#2723
On May 05 2013 00:45 NexCa wrote:
playing barb now on MP10, tired of getting a good monk ... just way too expensive, barbs don't need to get a good equip to do more dmg than the average monks .. :/


COME BACK TO US

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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
May 05 2013 04:14 GMT
#2724
playing a cyclone bot is so fun (dont even play with a mage but still fun)! But monk gear is so expensive
I was running around with 180kdps but only 27k hp (lol), had to rebuy and recraft most of my gear
Dropped to 160k dps but now got myself 37k hp! Getting there!

Also if I was rich I wish I could buy myself a perfect Natalya's Bloody Footprints or a Perfect WKL
dats racist
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
May 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#2725
On May 01 2013 00:10 NexCa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 08:03 Lylat wrote:
On April 27 2013 02:52 NexCa wrote:
Monks ? MONKS ?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INVIS-2291/hero/130395

Lol, asked for a 200M budget, not a 2billion one !


sry... my fault :D

but everyone should be up to date what Monks should do :D


Thats like the sickest shit right there. im guessing u smash MP10 easily
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
May 06 2013 11:41 GMT
#2726
On May 05 2013 22:42 Ryukku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 00:10 NexCa wrote:
On April 28 2013 08:03 Lylat wrote:
On April 27 2013 02:52 NexCa wrote:
Monks ? MONKS ?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INVIS-2291/hero/130395

Lol, asked for a 200M budget, not a 2billion one !


sry... my fault :D

but everyone should be up to date what Monks should do :D


Thats like the sickest shit right there. im guessing u smash MP10 easily


that's not me ^^, but i wish i would be ! :D
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 07 2013 14:47 GMT
#2727
Hey, I just recently got back into the game and I quickly threw together a monk, here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Bynming-1655/hero/33158314

Unfortunately I only have 20 millions, I would appreciate it if anybody could help me figure out how to spend it. Or perhaps I should just save up? Are there obvious issues with my gear? It seems like everyone is DWing for the crit damage but I already have problems with my survivability, around MP4, where I rely hugely on my serenity, blinding flash and breath of heaven to stay alive.

I'd appreciate any help. Cheers.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
May 07 2013 16:45 GMT
#2728
You absolutely need lifesteal. I'm no expert on monk builds, but you are gonna want to find 2 1h weapons with some combination of lifesteal/crit damage/dex/sockets. Maybe even a won kim lau, but I don't know if that is worth getting in your budget.

I've got a similar question, I've tried some cheap 1h+WKL (cyclone build) and they seemed worse than my cheap lifesteal skorn (bell build). At what sorta budget does a 1h+WKL combo become more effective than a 2h build?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 07 2013 18:33 GMT
#2729
My shield is so much survivability though I'm worried I'll get murdered if I don't have it. The weapons I would need to make up for it would be very expensive wouldn't they?
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 19:28:34
May 07 2013 19:27 GMT
#2730
You have the right set-up for sword and board; high crit chance on the shield and Fist is a good choice for your weapon.

Lifesteal weapons with good offensive stats are expensive. You don't have to have it (I never used it and I was fine at MP5) and it's especially hard to find a good weapon for it with sword / board.

Sword and Board I believe uses more life on hit, since you can get that from jewelry.

There are less popular ways to get sustainability too - I liked Life / Spirit Spent, but that really shines with dual weird so that's probably out for you (transcendence only goes so far).

Some cray folks just go for high life / second and rely on high armor / resists to keep the damage under control. It's actually something I messed around with way, way back in the day and it does work, but requires you to be more careful with positioning.

Basically you're lacking a way to get life.

The other option is to go full glass cannon and just blast things down so fast that you're swimming in health globes, but if you're worried about survivability you might not want to try such an aggressive play style. But you have some options.

@el_dawg - it used to be much easier to get a good Cyclone build; but with the way Bells have been buffed it's hard to say what the break-even point is... especially with how cheap Skornes are these days.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 20:39:47
May 07 2013 20:14 GMT
#2731
iono, i'm not a big fan of kits with no lifesteal assuming you're running a cookie-cutter fot/cyclone build. the amount of life you get back from cyclones is just unbeatable. your resists and armor even without that shield (which honestly isn't even that great with only 15% block) is higher than mine, and i run mp10 flawlessly with only 2.8 lifesteal and no resolve/serenity, though i do keep an extra lifesteal wep in my inventory to swap to for reflect packs. you need to understand that while you may be dropping a lot of juicy looking defensive stats by ditching the shield, you're gaining an immense amount of sustain through the life steal which more than makes up for it

once you have anywhere near ~450 AR, ~4500 armor, adding more dps becomes your survivability

edit: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wooozy-1907/hero/3373541
my profile for reference i guess. obviously it's a much different budget, but the concept is the same.

oh and thumbs up for being a non-OWE monk. i like your style
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
May 07 2013 20:53 GMT
#2732
Ya, life on hit would also work. You can probably buy an ammy with dex/cc/cd/loh for not much and maybe replace a ring or get a weapon or 2 w/ loh. However, lifesteal really is the nuts, your best defense really is a good offense.

You could also get a cheap lifesteal/dex skorn and try a build like this http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aeSXkj!bdc!YbYbab . Your gear is a lot better than my monk's and I have no problem rolling through mp6.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 07 2013 21:02 GMT
#2733
Thanks for all the help guys! Need some life leech and whatnot... At this point I just don't know how to focus my gold to get the most out of it though. I used to keep up with AH prices for almost everything but now I'm pretty lost. I'll see what I can do - and if someone wants to help me look through the AH or something, ...

I know it's a lot to ask but otherwise, I'll still be reading, still taking advice.

Also note that I tried to play a little with a friend's 2.8% life leach sword as my offhand and it didn't do enough to keep me alive. I'm also hesitant to replace any of my jewelry, because it has otherwise high stats, so I would lose on other fronts for the Life leach and LoH...
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 22:51:45
May 07 2013 22:48 GMT
#2734
may want to run with 2x lifesteal weapons until your damage output gets higher. i don't follow the market myself (i stopped logging in even just to ah :\), but i guarantee a weapon with just two of the three primary weapon rolls (ls/cd/socket) won't cost you much. just look for ls/socket or ls/90+ cd since it doesn't look like radiant star emeralds are in your budget. oh and obviously finding dex/vit/loh are a very welcomed bonus. just make sure you're staying at a reasonable dps, especially for the mainhand
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 23:18:42
May 07 2013 23:04 GMT
#2735
I don't know what to look at, frankly all the stuff that I consider reasonably good is very expensive... I'll try to lower my standards I guess.

What's the general price range I should look at, and the stats... :o
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 08 2013 00:16 GMT
#2736
Like he just said ...
Decent DPS weapons with two of the three (life steal, crit damage, socket) are in your budget, so go on AH (when it isn't down for the bug) and search for them. 1h Rares with 2 of 3, Echoing Furies with 2 of 3, and get one in your price range. Reread wooozy's post for the exact numbers. These are affordable things.

Other items like jewelry with life on hit, and rares with dexterity and vit are a plus. You're looking at gear you can afford, and we were suggesting in a 20mil total available price range ... what you can get for that money. Happy Searching!
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 03:34:21
May 08 2013 00:20 GMT
#2737
Alright :o thanks.
Edit: Guess 1.08 is bad news for my 20m
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
May 08 2013 06:54 GMT
#2738
I've generally found (at least lately), that Life on Hit is just cheaper than lifesteal. A cheap Blackthorne ammy can go a long way to just getting you able to farm mp1 easily, leaving you to go more offensive with your weapons.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
May 08 2013 07:13 GMT
#2739
yeah but who wants to farm mp1 with fot/cyclone? =( that's silly
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 08 2013 08:35 GMT
#2740
I've got quite the amalgamation of gear from various parts, and am worried at how long it will be until I can upgrade. From friends quitting the game and gifting me some gear, to help from TL guys, to lucky drops or AH picks, I've pieced together 200k dps with lifesteal and fine resists. I was forced to drop a couple health gems in my gear to make up for sacrificing vit for affordability. I still die to reflect damage guys+anything on MP10 and anything that already hits hard in an elite pack. I can't be a big part of a team effort on MP10 ubers (my two friend's barbarians do the heavy lifting, one buoyed with good gear, the other similar gear to mine but its a barb so doesn't die haha).

I'm hoping this AH thing dies down so I can find upgrades for gear that has decent crit, but low dex/vit/res, and those with okay CC/CD but low everything else. Gearing for monk beyond this is just too insane right now >.>
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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