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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
January 17 2013 22:15 GMT
#2641
Ya, WoL looks insane now. It compares very well with SSS from a damage / spirit stand-point and has no cooldown.

I don't think the short invulnerability on SSS justifies the long cooldown, but you kind of have to though, or SSS would be too insane in PvP. Maybe.

I don't really feel like PTR-ing it up so I'll just wait and see what happens I guess.
SacredTears
Profile Joined January 2013
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 00:49:43
January 17 2013 23:43 GMT
#2642
Yeah sss is still not gonna be very good I guess devs don't want to buff everything at once just to see how the new changes are first? Idk
with bell I use the lower cost rune with exalted soul, drop 6 bells consecutively :b

also wanted to see if anyone had opinions on the crafting
i think inna's set still gives the most dmg output with good ehp so no chest/pants
bracers seem to be +115 mainstat base, so if you need more vit you can roll them otherwise lacuni dps is higher
ok now that i thought about it im gonna craft some bracers lol
im kind of on the fence about gloves since they can roll 300+ dex but 50 ess is a lot :/

so basically i plan to craft amulet+bracer+glove in that order, lol
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
January 18 2013 19:34 GMT
#2643
Alright guys, I just got my blizzard account back (It got hacked). I haven't played since July 2012, I have a monk (60). What have I missed, are there considered builds that are just better to use yet? Anyone help me out?
SacredTears
Profile Joined January 2013
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 20:55:13
January 18 2013 20:06 GMT
#2644
On January 19 2013 04:34 Shelke14 wrote:
Alright guys, I just got my blizzard account back (It got hacked). I haven't played since July 2012, I have a monk (60). What have I missed, are there considered builds that are just better to use yet? Anyone help me out?


*note* these are all pvm builds

There is currently the main build of
Fists of thunder-thunderclap (best spirit generator)
Mantra of conviction-overawe (best mantra overall)
Sweeping wind-cyclone (main damage dealer as of now)
Blinding flash-faith in the light (increases sw-cyclone damage)
+ 2 skills you prefer, usually2 of breath of heaven-blazing wrath (dmg buff), deadly reach-foresight (dmg buff), serenity (immunity)
Passives would be sieze the initiative (unless youre using a shield), one with everything (if your all res <450), and one of your choice

Also the speedfarm build *not infinite tr, just a build i use on lower mps to clear quicker*
Fists of thunder-thunderclap
Mantra of conviction-overawe (healing-circular breathing works too if your dmg is good and you need spirit regen)
Tempest rush-tailwind (to run through empty space)
Sweeping wind-cyclone
+ i use blinding flash+breath of heaven since speedfarming you probabyl wont need serenity
Passives are the above, except you need exalted soul for extra spirit and 1 regen

Oh, might as well post a current group build too, now that groups are mostly cm wiz+monk+2
Fists of thunder-thunderclap
Mantra of conviction-overawe
Sweeping wind-cyclone (so you can still do some dmg)
Cyclone strike-eye of the storm or implosion, i use eye of the storm so i have spirit to spam overawe (pulls stuff into wizard's nova+time bubble)
Breath of heaven-blazing wrath (dmg buff+group dmg buff with guiding light=double buff for u=pro)
1 of your choice, i use Serenity-tranquility since in group you usually do a higher mp than you solo, so its easier to die therefore you want some defensive skills
Passives: Guiding light, STi, OWE (if you use shield in group you can drop STI for Exalted Soul), or (if you get pure all res gear and drop OWE, you can use exalted soul)

A future build post 1.07 will probably drop blinding flash in favor of wave of light, lashing kick, or some other spirit spender. test some on ptr before the patch goes live

As far as gear goes, legendaries/sets are best for most gear slots
Rares are for glove, amulet, one ring (unless u have pro hellfire ring), and offhand (unless ur 2hing)
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
January 18 2013 20:10 GMT
#2645
Can't wait to spam dashing strike again. I have a feeling it is going to get nerfed because of the invulnerability frames in PvP.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
nV[MB]
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland58 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 21:29:49
January 18 2013 20:24 GMT
#2646
On January 19 2013 05:06 SacredTears wrote:
Also the speedfarm build
Fists of thunder-thunderclap
Mantra of conviction-overawe (healing-circular breathing works too if your dmg is good and you need spirit regen)
Tempest rush-tailwind (to run through empty space)
Sweeping wind-cyclone
+ i use blinding flash+breath of heaven since speedfarming you probabyl wont need serenity
Passives are the above, except you need exalted soul for extra spirit and 1 regen


If by speedfarm you mean the regular TR build, then your choices are at least argueable.

The advantage of thunderclap is the teleport and the attack speed increase (that gives you better spirit regen/ LoH proc rate) - if you're TRing properly 100% of the time you benefit from neither. Long as snapshot works, its better to go Deadly Reach: Foresight for 18% damage bonus.

Circular Breathing gives you 3 extra spirit/sec compared to MoC, which in most weapon setups,allows you to use just one spirit regen item. If you use 2H weapon with low attack speed, with CB you can do well with only 2+ spirit regen on your helm. If you go with MoC, you will need an extra 2-3 spirit/ sec, most likely resulting in you buying a SoJ and/or Xephirian - which might be worse than your regular ring/ amulet setup, which can at least partially take from your DPS bonus from MoC.

Also, since the build focuses on killing stuff as fast as possible, I find it quite handy to use Submission instead of Overawe - it provides some extra damage in the area outside of your SW that in the case of low dps might make a difference between killing and almost killing monsters you run past by (and the latter nets you neither exp nor loot).

Cyclone is nice, Id swap it for Firestorm but its more of a matter of personal preference.

Blinding Flash is a no-brainer before snapshot fix

Serenity is not needed, but depending on ones weapon setup Id consider 7ss instead of Blazing Wrath - its not THAT good, but in some situations it allows you to oneshot a group of reflect elites without caring about any healing at all.

Also, with your skill setup, Exalted Soul is nowhere near as important as Chant of Resonance
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
January 18 2013 20:34 GMT
#2647
so sick, thanks guys! I've been searching through the auction house and my armor is worth nothing now compared to when i first got it haha! But I am acing inferno Act 3 right now. I heard there is level's of difficulty now?
SacredTears
Profile Joined January 2013
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 20:54:23
January 18 2013 20:52 GMT
#2648
For speedfarming, i dont mean the infinite tr build (i have never used it so i cant comment on it), just using tr to run faster and then fot-tc to kill things; i just included it because its a build ive tried and works well for me
so i use exalted soul, cyclone, overawe over chant, firestorm, sub

i've never tried deadly reach with tr before, but its probably the best choice if youre using infinite tr; same with moc-sub
it seems more common to tr with a 2h, which can roll a lot of lifesteal, so i prefer some more constant dmg with bw
although that might change after 1.07

ill put a note in the post above
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
January 19 2013 19:37 GMT
#2649
On January 19 2013 05:10 Jisall wrote:
Can't wait to spam dashing strike again. I have a feeling it is going to get nerfed because of the invulnerability frames in PvP.


I don't think they care about PvP balance.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
January 19 2013 19:58 GMT
#2650
On January 20 2013 04:37 willoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 05:10 Jisall wrote:
Can't wait to spam dashing strike again. I have a feeling it is going to get nerfed because of the invulnerability frames in PvP.


I don't think they care about PvP balance.


Hopefully, I do enjoy dodging Frozen by DSing
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
January 20 2013 01:30 GMT
#2651
On January 19 2013 05:52 SacredTears wrote:
For speedfarming, i dont mean the infinite tr build (i have never used it so i cant comment on it), just using tr to run faster and then fot-tc to kill things; i just included it because its a build ive tried and works well for me
so i use exalted soul, cyclone, overawe over chant, firestorm, sub

i've never tried deadly reach with tr before, but its probably the best choice if youre using infinite tr; same with moc-sub
it seems more common to tr with a 2h, which can roll a lot of lifesteal, so i prefer some more constant dmg with bw
although that might change after 1.07

ill put a note in the post above


I plan on doing similar, just using TR to reduce travel time. The drop rate of Demonic Essense at MP0 is enough to not make me consider anything higher like with key farming. I sold all my snapshot gear already so back to my good old Shenlongs, and plan on just using FoT to kill small packs/elites, Explosive Light to kill big packs, and keeping Blind as the CC to keep packs in one spot to burn. Mostly just keeping my farming/leveling gear optimized to do MP0. At at crappy 70k dps but decent 21 spirit regen to spam WoL: Explosive Light. Nice thing is that even on live WoL can one-shot most white mobs and Sweeping/Cyclone usually takes care of the rest.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
January 20 2013 12:57 GMT
#2652
I want to invest in a set for my monk. What should I buy? Right now I'm confused, as I find rare items for 10000 gold that is better than the legendary stuff I find for 320000 gold!

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Arnstein-1936/hero/19825782
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Corak
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany187 Posts
January 20 2013 13:14 GMT
#2653
On January 20 2013 21:57 Arnstein wrote:
I want to invest in a set for my monk. What should I buy? Right now I'm confused, as I find rare items for 10000 gold that is better than the legendary stuff I find for 320000 gold!

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Arnstein-1936/hero/19825782


For that kind of gold it is way too early to buy a set, or maybe even legendary items.
Just buy some rare gloves that have good dex and two of the three (CC, CD and IAS) and play a lot to get more gold?
Essence
Profile Joined October 2005
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 13:20:13
January 20 2013 13:17 GMT
#2654
On January 20 2013 21:57 Arnstein wrote:
I want to invest in a set for my monk. What should I buy? Right now I'm confused, as I find rare items for 10000 gold that is better than the legendary stuff I find for 320000 gold!

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Arnstein-1936/hero/19825782


I found a previously posted Youtube channel for you, it is about gearing lower budget monks, with playstyle advices, should be useful:

http://www.youtube.com/user/daemon1804
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
January 20 2013 13:27 GMT
#2655
Thanks to both of you!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
SacredTears
Profile Joined January 2013
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 17:49:07
January 21 2013 03:43 GMT
#2656
A build im trying and liking for farming on ptr:
Hundred fists-blazing fists
Dashing strike-way of the falling star
Deadly reach-foresight
Sweeping wind
Overawe
Blazing wrath

with 3 stacks of wothf you have 65 speed for 3 seconds after dashing strike, which lets you catch stuff that runs away if youre using EF or just lets you move around really fast
*note that if you dash on empty space you dont get extra speed
now that blinding flash is not necessary, trying to find other stuff to use besides fot-tc lol

feel free to try it and comment

also was playing around with
Crippling wave-rising tide/fists of thunder-quickening
Wave of light-empowered wave
Dashing strike-quicksilver/cyclone strike-eye of the storm
spirit generates so fast, but not as convenient as fot-tc :c

-IeZaeL-
Profile Joined December 2007
Spain327 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 11:20:24
January 22 2013 11:08 GMT
#2657
hi guys,i have been a bit inactive in D3,i sold all my items (had 260k damage T_T!!) and now ill try to do some runs. I have only 130M now... anyone can tell me the best build for monk right now with only 130m? Thanks ♥ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For weapons... enchoing fury+won khimlau are still good?o.o
EDIT: mp1 !
aka:Wizards-> FnaticMSI ->IImg.IeZaeL ->MYM.IeZaeL . Actually teamless,Top40-80 GM Europe.Twitter: @IeZaeL_7
SacredTears
Profile Joined January 2013
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 08:34:11
January 23 2013 08:32 GMT
#2658
Im pretty bad at building monks, so my only advice is to shoot for 40k hp, 500 ar, 5k armor with sti, and get as much dps as possible onto the rest of the gear lol
EF+WKL is still good
mp1 should be pretty easy with a 130m build though

if you for some reason play on AM server even though your user is Spain, i can mf with you
kmkkmk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany418 Posts
January 24 2013 18:35 GMT
#2659
Can you please have a look at my monk and suggest on how I should spend my next money on? Should I shoot for a weapon with 100% crit. gem or rather Natalyas Ring + Boots or something completely different? Is life leach preferred over life on hit? Thanks.
SacredTears
Profile Joined January 2013
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 00:40:04
January 25 2013 00:34 GMT
#2660
Ugh cant translate from german :c
what is your budget? i can try to help general stuff right now

You should definitely get a weapon with dex and an open socket with lifesteal if you can afford it. will be a nice boost.
imo, use a star emerald (70%). if you can afford a radiant star (100%) there are currently better things to spend your gold on
At the lower dps levels loh is similar to lifesteal, but as your dps goes up you want to use lifesteal
calculate how much you gain from loh and lifesteal to see what you should use for now (lifesteal is 20% in inferno; not sure if loh is also reduced but i assume so)

then consider natalya's set for the crit bonus, but if you cant spend much then you can only get a basic natalya's ring and boots, so your gain will be 4% crit and some ias assuming you swap out your right side ring for it. also you have no movespeed, so natalya boots will help with that.
consider getting inna's pants or lacunis depending on where you want your allres to be (currently i see it's on the pants)
that will get you to 24% speed, which is ideal for farming
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