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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 11:04:43
June 19 2012 11:04 GMT
#1961
On June 19 2012 19:57 javy925 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 19:45 Babaganoush wrote:
What do you barbs use end game for your non-weapon/helm gems? Rubies or Amethysts? Or is it conditional?

For my other two characters, the WD and a Wiz, all I did was stack topaz. But since Barb is a melee, would the armor added from strength offset the HP gained from vitality or vice versa?


For weapon, I prefer emerald for the %crit dmg, otherwise amethyst for LoH (never ruby)

notice he said non-weapons ? :p
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#1962
On June 19 2012 19:45 Babaganoush wrote:
What do you barbs use end game for your non-weapon/helm gems? Rubies or Amethysts? Or is it conditional?

For my other two characters, the WD and a Wiz, all I did was stack topaz. But since Barb is a melee, would the armor added from strength offset the HP gained from vitality or vice versa?


It's situational. Since content is likely to be a huge joke now with the nerf, helm will probably have a topaz for magic find instead of an amethysts for %life while the rest of your armor will probably have more Rubies than Amethysts. Gemming rubies is solely for DPS, the armor provided is sort of not relevant. Amethysts will provide the same amount of armor with the Nerves of Steel passive.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 19 2012 16:31 GMT
#1963
All of you playing straight up tank barbs, are you concerned at all about some of the bosses enrage timers? I seem to remember when I was full tank that phase 3 belial took longer than 3minutes, now he will enrage.


What is everyones opinion on the overall patch? I think it's pretty shitty and doesn't really address a lot of the fundamental problems with the game. They seemed to just take a meat clever to various aspects without thinking of the ramifications or long term replayability when making the cuts.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 19 2012 16:33 GMT
#1964
Won't be doing ZK or Belial ever so sort of irrelevant. It's just more green pools anyways, pretty sure it's not going to matter much.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 16:45:28
June 19 2012 16:41 GMT
#1965
On June 20 2012 01:33 skyR wrote:
Won't be doing ZK or Belial ever so sort of irrelevant. It's just more green pools anyways, pretty sure it's not going to matter much.



Yeah I was thinking more about those still trying to progress. I'm interested to see just how nerfed the mobs are so I can decided if I need stick to my DH to farm or go back to my barb. Kinda silly they nerfed nether tentacles but left ball of lightning (exact same spell but nether healed, which was mostly worthless anyway) so they didn't really nerf DH's at all, contrary to the tears you see.

I don't like the farming changes at all, what so ever. Removing boss quality drops with NV and adding a rare to champions.. I want purpose and finality in my runs. I don't want to run all over the fuckign zones looking for random ass elites. I'm not sure why they are thinking so short term when they make changes to this game. The reason d2 lasted 10 years is because everything was quick and efficient. I'm not sure how much time I have left in this game tbh, I was looking forward to this patch but seems like a dud.

On a brightside, maybe they nerfed mobs enough that I can go straight up 2h beat ass mode barbarian. That could be fun. I doubt it though, ^^.
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coopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States144 Posts
June 19 2012 16:43 GMT
#1966
On June 20 2012 01:41 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 01:33 skyR wrote:
Won't be doing ZK or Belial ever so sort of irrelevant. It's just more green pools anyways, pretty sure it's not going to matter much.



Yeah I was thinking more about those still trying to progress. I'm interested to see just how nerfed the mobs are before I stick to my DH to farm or go back to my barb. Kinda silly they nerfed nether tentacles but left ball of lightning (exact same spell but nether healed, which was mostly worthless anyway) so they didn't really nerf DH's at all, contrary to the tears you see.

Hopefully the mobs nerfed enough I can go straight up 2h beat ass mode, but I doubt it.


Yes they did nerf DHS, ball of lightening cant hit the same target twice wereas nether tentacle could hit 2-5 times therefore being more than 50% dps over lightening. Either way I think im gonna fool around with some cluster arrow builds
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 19 2012 16:46 GMT
#1967
On June 20 2012 01:43 coopes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 01:41 crms wrote:
On June 20 2012 01:33 skyR wrote:
Won't be doing ZK or Belial ever so sort of irrelevant. It's just more green pools anyways, pretty sure it's not going to matter much.



Yeah I was thinking more about those still trying to progress. I'm interested to see just how nerfed the mobs are before I stick to my DH to farm or go back to my barb. Kinda silly they nerfed nether tentacles but left ball of lightning (exact same spell but nether healed, which was mostly worthless anyway) so they didn't really nerf DH's at all, contrary to the tears you see.

Hopefully the mobs nerfed enough I can go straight up 2h beat ass mode, but I doubt it.


Yes they did nerf DHS, ball of lightening cant hit the same target twice wereas nether tentacle could hit 2-5 times therefore being more than 50% dps over lightening. Either way I think im gonna fool around with some cluster arrow builds


was this in a prior patch or did I miss it in the notes? I only rerolled DH since last saturday.
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coopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 16:51:09
June 19 2012 16:49 GMT
#1968
Its in these notes, they made nether tentacle only hit 1 time wereas it might of tick-hit 2-3 times before (150% hit dmg now vs a possible 300% then) and the reason ball of lightening is really meh is that it takes 2 tick-hits on the same target to build up to its 150% weapon dmg whereas nether hit INSTANTLY with 150% and could possibly hit 2-3 times more ^^
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
June 19 2012 16:50 GMT
#1969
Well I never got a chance to do siege breaker runs with my reroll DH. Time to sell her things and go back to big papa pump.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 19 2012 16:52 GMT
#1970
On June 20 2012 01:50 matiK23 wrote:
Well I never got a chance to do siege breaker runs with my reroll DH. Time to sell her things and go back to big papa pump.



i do cydea and azmodan on my rerolled DH. Siegebreaker was actually harder imo because the elites you farm are in small dungeons. When you do an azmodan run, those maps were made to be exploited by ranged.

anyway, sorry off topic DH discussion, I'll stop now.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 19 2012 17:02 GMT
#1971
gg act 3 is a joke now.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 19 2012 17:03 GMT
#1972
On June 20 2012 02:02 skyR wrote:
gg act 3 is a joke now.



elaborate! I'm at work for another 7 hours. ~_~
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 19 2012 17:10 GMT
#1973
Well I can afk during a pack and type this.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 17:22:05
June 19 2012 17:20 GMT
#1974
On June 20 2012 02:10 skyR wrote:
Well I can afk during a pack and type this.



you're traditional spec right? 1h/shield, high res etC?

even though you aren't dying, how is the kill speed? Do runs seem effficient as a tank in terms of time to clear? I really don't want to tank, it breaks my brain thinking about tanking in diablo game. Do you think d/w or 2h dps builds could be legitimately viable post-patch?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 19 2012 17:35 GMT
#1975
Well my weapon had IAS so my DPS took a nose dive.

Can't say anything about run speed since it doesn't help my DH is dying left and right to mortar and I'm typing this at the same time instead of spamming Frenzy. Sorry DH, 30k+ repair bills T_T

2H is definitely viable, I might even buy a 1600 DPS 2H later today. I can sit there in plague tanking horde blood clan maulers and the casters, both elite packs. Previously if that happened, I'd die instantly to fireballs.

I use traditional tank passives with superstition, nerves of steel, and tough as nails. For actives, I use Leap, Revenge, War Cry, WotB, Frenzy, and Threatening Shout. Probably need to switch out some defensive passives for DPS and Threateaning Shout for something else.

Might get rid of LoH as well but it's nice to be able to type and than heal yourself back to full.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 19 2012 17:39 GMT
#1976
^
That spec is indeed incredibly defensive.
Off-season = best season
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
June 19 2012 17:44 GMT
#1977
I feel like earthquake and WoTB should always be worked into any particularly optimized farming build either 1h or 2h, otherwise you would have a hard time competing with other classes's killing efficiency. Since the overall enemy damage is evidently reduced, this will work so much better than before, too.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 19 2012 17:53 GMT
#1978
hrm.. with repair costs being that much.. 2h face smash act1/2 may just be the best way to farm? It's incredibly fast, easy and you have chances at real loot.. I'm interested to see what ends up being the way to go once all the dust from the patch settles.
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Jomz
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom117 Posts
June 19 2012 18:26 GMT
#1979
Anyone else doing a weapon throw build?

Mine goes like this -
Primary Weapon Throw - Ricochet glyph

Secondary Battle Rage - Into The Fray glyph

Then for 1, 2, 3, 4. (Q, W, E, R for some) I have;
Ignore Pain - Ignorance is Bliss glyph

Wrath of Berserker - Insanity glyph

Ancient Spear - Skirmish glyph

War Cry - Charge! glyph (Can use Hardened Wrath or Impunity)

And for passives I have;
Ruthless
No Escape
Weapons Master

My gear is not very good for this build but I have 43% crit chance and 340% crit hit damage. As well as some IAS which is really helpful too.

You NEED high crit chance for this build to work (so make sure you have an Axe / Mace in your mainhand!) otherwise you just don't get the Fury gain for it to be worth it, you also should be dual wielding for the IAS and stat gain(Increased Crit Damage). And an item with reduced fury cost on Weapon Throw will be semi-needed as it helps so much. It's take a little to get used to it, especially trying to figure out when you need to use Ancient Spear but it's incredibly funny watching melee chasing after a mob when you chain Spear it because your crit is so high.

Gotta say the build is a LOT of fun to mess around on, I can do butcher runs pretty easily as you can kite everything. Shielding / invuln / mortar and waller give me a lot of trouble though. But I can kill them most of the time, except invuln, I just skip them usually.

When with a group and you have 2 tanks (Barb / monk so good) you can sit at the back and wail on them really hard it's a lot of fun

I'm basically a manly Demon Hunter. That dies easier.
I'm so badass I can unscramble eggs.
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
June 19 2012 19:48 GMT
#1980
Inferno is too easy ,It's not fun to play anymore
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