Anyone know how to morph this solo build into a more party friendly build? The only thing I can think is to use the rune on Ignore Pain that gives the buff to my party
I like being able to actually tank, so I ran Threatening Shout with the 3 second taunt rune for the longest time. Not sure how viable that is in Inferno. I would be grouping with glass cannon Wizards or DHs so I need to try to keep them alive as best I can.
On June 20 2012 16:38 trinxified wrote: the 2-hand build is basically only wait for 2-min cooldowns on WotB and EQ right? Giving up a shield is a hard thing to do, unless this patch totally lets us tank easily without the block chance?
I made my own 2H build which stomps Act 1 (No EQ, No WotB), I have to try it out in act 2 but I'm feeling optimistic.
also:
TIL: Overpower cooldown is reduced by crits from ANY ability
On June 20 2012 06:47 darkcloud8282 wrote: Considering mobs do like 30-40% less damage, if you weren't dying horribly before it would be a cakewalk now.
y.e.s.
This is so fucking easy now lol not even kiddding ahaha
On June 20 2012 16:38 trinxified wrote: the 2-hand build is basically only wait for 2-min cooldowns on WotB and EQ right? Giving up a shield is a hard thing to do, unless this patch totally lets us tank easily without the block chance?
Depends how good your gear is, if you were tanking things quite well already pre-patch I'm quite sure you can just replace your 1h+shield with a good 2h and achieve around the same survivability.
On June 21 2012 01:56 Psyqo wrote: Anyone know how to morph this solo build into a more party friendly build? The only thing I can think is to use the rune on Ignore Pain that gives the buff to my party
I like being able to actually tank, so I ran Threatening Shout with the 3 second taunt rune for the longest time. Not sure how viable that is in Inferno. I would be grouping with glass cannon Wizards or DHs so I need to try to keep them alive as best I can.
Swap Frenzy for the slow rune on Cleave (having a 0-CD slow really helps you control the mobs for your damage-dealers), and bring Ground Stomp+Wrenching Smash.
I'm jelly of all you well equipped barbs. I did no farming and played straight through with a witch doctor ally, while only buying bargains on ah (<30K per item) and now I've hit the wall known as inferno act 2. My equips do suck as I only have 9k dps and about 7k armour and 400 resists with warcry. Ran into first elite mob (lacunis) at the start of act 2 and I just tickle them while dying pretty fast.
Not sure if I want to spend hours farming for better gear and I'm super broke due to the new repair costs and only have about 20k, so can't afford to buy great gear on ah. If my adventuring ends here, I think I'm ok with that, as I've already put in 70-80 hours into it already. I did enjoy playing d3 though.
Leap - Stun rune Stomp - Wrenching smash Ignore Pain - Life steal War cry - Resits OR if another barb already has it Overpower - Life steal
Passives: Nails, Superstition and Ruthless
I was getting slapped around in act 2 and I drew this thing up. I've always used Hammer, I love the skill so I tried to build everything around it. I took overpower over revenge because I'd rather NOT get hit at all and with all the stuns going around, it won't proc often. It also synergizes with Hammer because Hammer has 5% extra crit and I picked my gear to favour critical chance and damage.
I did a few butcher runs with 2 other people this morning and things were splendidly smooth.
On June 21 2012 04:03 Krowser wrote: Hey what do you guys think of this build?
Cleave - Extra rage Hammer - Stun rune
Leap - Stun rune Stomp - Wrenching smash Ignore Pain - Life steal War cry - Resits OR if another barb already has it Overpower - Life steal
Passives: Nails, Superstition and Ruthless
I was getting slapped around in act 2 and I drew this thing up. I've always used Hammer, I love the skill so I tried to build everything around it. I took overpower over revenge because I'd rather NOT get hit at all and with all the stuns going around, it won't proc often. It also synergizes with Hammer because Hammer has 5% extra crit and I picked my gear to favour critical chance and damage.
I did a few butcher runs with 2 other people this morning and things were splendidly smooth.
I don't find any appeal in this particular build, and overpower is terrible compared to charge-dreadnaught, imo.
If you want to use cleave + hammer like that, use WoTB with strive on chaos rune. Spend fury ->
On June 19 2012 15:56 trinxified wrote: So I just finished Act 1 Inferno after spending 150-200k gold on re-gearing right after Hell... Pretty easy.
Now, Act 2 is a totally different story, as I get shit on easily by almost anything. Now after spending 2.3 million for pretty much a new gear all around except weapon, I'm going to see if I'm able to clear the whole Act 2 at least.
I'll repost and quote myself if results are good.
I'm trying to compare with how I progressed with my Wizard... I beat Inferno Diablo last week, but it cost me about 15 million to beat it, but not easy progress though. Hopefully not as slow, hard and expensive as my Barb.
So I'm quoting myself a few pages back to report on my current results/progress... I've got good and bad news.
Good news is that I cleared whole Act 2 with no re-gearing required. Got up to Zultan Kulle pre-patch, then killed him post-patch. I ripped through Act 2 no problem without much deaths (maybe 5 at most). I was even using Marauder's Rage for more DPS and breezed through Act 1 and 2. I took on Belial being enraged quite easily too. The bad news is, I can't progress Act 3 now.
So for Act 3, I tried using Intimidate instead of Marauder's Rage but still getting raped. Now I'm in Act 3 in the Keep Depths, and I don't progress fast enough and efficiently since I'm dying to most elite packs (repair bill stinks). I don't have IAS nor critical chance/damage items so my DPS isn't inflated.
I have not made considerable upgrades since finishing Act 2, in fact only picked up a pair of 450k rings I have on right now (not sure if good deal?) and a life on hit amulet as backup. My best item is definitely my shield, but it's too bad it doesn't have 20% block chance. I am with Enchantress that has armor and IAS buffs.
What is my problem? Is my DPS too little? Do I really need more Life on Hit (more than my backup amulet)? Can I change either my gear and/or skill set to progress? I have to depend on health globes to keep me alive me against elites in Act 3, and that's only helping me too because I got a 14 yard radius... So what now?
I admit, all items are from GAH, and got them for VERY good deals, at least I think so. I've spent probably only 3.5 million gold for everything, but I'm ready to spend another 6 million or so to re-gear for improvement. Thanks for any help/advice/tips!
On June 21 2012 04:03 Krowser wrote: Hey what do you guys think of this build?
Cleave - Extra rage Hammer - Stun rune
Leap - Stun rune Stomp - Wrenching smash Ignore Pain - Life steal War cry - Resits OR if another barb already has it Overpower - Life steal
Passives: Nails, Superstition and Ruthless
I was getting slapped around in act 2 and I drew this thing up. I've always used Hammer, I love the skill so I tried to build everything around it. I took overpower over revenge because I'd rather NOT get hit at all and with all the stuns going around, it won't proc often. It also synergizes with Hammer because Hammer has 5% extra crit and I picked my gear to favour critical chance and damage.
I did a few butcher runs with 2 other people this morning and things were splendidly smooth.
I don't find any appeal in this particular build, and overpower is terrible compared to charge-dreadnaught, imo.
If you want to use cleave + hammer like that, use WoTB with strive on chaos rune. Spend fury ->
Well, I wanted to try something different and make the most of my 2H. I know Seismic and Throw are very good with a 2H but it doesn't resonate well with my need to SMASH THINGS! I guess it's just not how I wanted to play my guy.
I tried Strive and I didn't think it helped that much, compared to Insanity. With Hammer you start to see some pretty big numbers. :D
I also god my hands on a 2H axe that reduces the cost of hammer by 5, it's pretty good.
So.. yeah, dreadnought. I guess I have some testing to do. Crap, yeah charge is better. I thought I had found a good use for overpower but... Charge already has a lower cooldown, does MORE damage, generates rage AND moves my guy around.
On June 19 2012 15:56 trinxified wrote: So I just finished Act 1 Inferno after spending 150-200k gold on re-gearing right after Hell... Pretty easy.
Now, Act 2 is a totally different story, as I get shit on easily by almost anything. Now after spending 2.3 million for pretty much a new gear all around except weapon, I'm going to see if I'm able to clear the whole Act 2 at least.
I'll repost and quote myself if results are good.
I'm trying to compare with how I progressed with my Wizard... I beat Inferno Diablo last week, but it cost me about 15 million to beat it, but not easy progress though. Hopefully not as slow, hard and expensive as my Barb.
So I'm quoting myself a few pages back to report on my current results/progress... I've got good and bad news.
Good news is that I cleared whole Act 2 with no re-gearing required. Got up to Zultan Kulle pre-patch, then killed him post-patch. I ripped through Act 2 no problem without much deaths (maybe 5 at most). I was even using Marauder's Rage for more DPS and breezed through Act 1 and 2. I took on Belial being enraged quite easily too. The bad news is, I can't progress Act 3 now.
So for Act 3, I tried using Intimidate instead of Marauder's Rage but still getting raped. Now I'm in Act 3 in the Keep Depths, and I don't progress fast enough and efficiently since I'm dying to most elite packs (repair bill stinks). I don't have IAS nor critical chance/damage items so my DPS isn't inflated.
I have not made considerable upgrades since finishing Act 2, in fact only picked up a pair of 450k rings I have on right now (not sure if good deal?) and a life on hit amulet as backup. My best item is definitely my shield, but it's too bad it doesn't have 20% block chance. I am with Enchantress that has armor and IAS buffs.
What is my problem? Is my DPS too little? Do I really need more Life on Hit (more than my backup amulet)? Can I change either my gear and/or skill set to progress? I have to depend on health globes to keep me alive me against elites in Act 3, and that's only helping me too because I got a 14 yard radius... So what now?
I admit, all items are from GAH, and got them for VERY good deals, at least I think so. I've spent probably only 3.5 million gold for everything, but I'm ready to spend another 6 million or so to re-gear for improvement. Thanks for any help/advice/tips
You need better block % so a better shield, helm of command, or justice lattern.
Your rings and amulet could use upgrading, try and get DPS since you already have the required HP and resist to beat the game. Socketed items would also be huge upgrade (chest, pants, rings, amulet).
If you don't have the DPS to kill elites within WotB / Earthquake or shortly after than yes you need LoH.
From a challenging yet rewarding Azmodan runs it has now become an easy-boring-long-pointless champion hunt... Because of the attack speed nerf my dmg is also reduced by much which means I can't die but the fight will take way longer... so unchallenging and boring. Also attacking slow is just less fun, I really wish they could find a more creative way to nerf the attack speed stat.
the nerf to attack speed just bumped it down the prio list for which stat is 'most important' and has now been replaced, there is still pretty much 1 best stat will be most expensive on the AH, nerfing attack speed just pisses people off who already farmed.
Played around with the Weapon Throw build again today. There's a lot of different approaches and i'm experimenting a bit. Unfortunately i don't have a lot of gold.
Atm i am going the crit for fury generation way. Stacked strength to 1700 and run around with 33k hp and 400 RA (buffed) with 2x1H with 48% crit chance, around 230% crit damage, resulting in 34k dps with 700 dps weapons (did i mention already, that i'm poor? ). It's more than viable in Act II and the money to be spent is a joke. 2H will be stronger than DW i guess, but i'll save for a decent weapon first. Also thinking about trying 1-H + Shield tomorrow. Going for a 10% crit, massive strength (+some proc maybe) shield basically disregarding block, because those shields can be damn cheap!
There's also the Mighty Weapon + Ricochet Rune + Weapon Master way: Every throw generates fury with a reduced WT-cost belt without the need to crit to make it work. You would have a lot of free skill slots this way, but i don't know if you can create something stronger than the massive crit build this way. You could go 2-H WT+EQ+WotB, but it's not my thing.