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darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
June 19 2012 19:53 GMT
#1981
Even my crappy 2h barb can take some hits in act 3. I think barbs with more tank gear can just buy a 2h and start destroying everything much faster while tanking everything just fine. I'm also contemplating whether I want to spend money to gear my DH or barb more now..
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
June 19 2012 19:55 GMT
#1982
It's supposed to be easy when you have good gear. Which any barb in a3 does
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 19 2012 20:25 GMT
#1983
Inferno is too easy now and being forced to hunt elites is totally boring.
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
June 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1984
Wait don't 2-handers have low atk speed? I thought they were only effective with ias gear. How does this work?
Without a paddle up shit creek.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#1985
On June 20 2012 05:49 matiK23 wrote:
Wait don't 2-handers have low atk speed? I thought they were only effective with ias gear. How does this work?


depends on the build. a lot of people just cheesed 2h using 2M cooldowns, specifically EQ. If you blow WoTB then EQ it doubles its damage. EQ only cares about weapon damage, so a big slow 2H was ideal.

I think if you were one of the few trying to legit run 2h spec while having proper armor, resist etc., attack speed was likely important.


I'm going to be doing a lot of testing when I get home... :E
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TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
June 19 2012 21:19 GMT
#1986
dropped about 15k DPS with the ias nerf
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
June 19 2012 21:44 GMT
#1987
Hi guys!

My stats and items before 1.0.3: http://i47.tinypic.com/34j4qqq.jpg (this is before War Cry and Berserker Rage, my dps in combat is 36k)


Due to ias nerf, I'm going to lose ~18% dps, loh and fury generation. Do you think I'll still be able to play Act III?

I can easily regain dps via crit chance/damage, but at that point (1.50as or even worse if I change weapon) I fear that loh will be useless...

Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
June 19 2012 21:47 GMT
#1988
cant afford high dps loh weapon, but maybe with life leech instead. is it good as well?
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
June 19 2012 21:47 GMT
#1989
Considering mobs do like 30-40% less damage, if you weren't dying horribly before it would be a cakewalk now.
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
June 19 2012 22:29 GMT
#1990
On June 20 2012 06:47 Corvi wrote:
cant afford high dps loh weapon, but maybe with life leech instead. is it good as well?


There's a barb guide on here, where he states that LoH is a luxury stat and not one that is essential. It might be good for the budget barb, the overall guide.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 22:57:05
June 19 2012 22:55 GMT
#1991
i read that guide and (if i didnt miss it) not a single word about life leech.

im running a 850 dps 150str/150vit weapon currently resulting in 18k dps with 8000 armor, 40k life, 1000-1100 all resistances (with shout) highest tier 20% block shield. not that bad i think, but no, i can definately not tank act 3 inferno elites. revange just doesnt bring enough life back from all the dmg i'm taking.

so my guess: guide is wrong, either loh or ll is essential.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 19 2012 23:00 GMT
#1992
On June 20 2012 07:55 Corvi wrote:
i read that guide and (if i didnt miss it) not a single word about life leech.

im running a 850 dps 150str/150vit weapon currently resulting in 18k dps with 8000 armor, 40k life, 1000-1100 all resistances (with shout) highest tier 20% block shield. not that bad i think, but no, i can definately not tank act 3 inferno elites. revange just doesnt bring enough life back from all the dmg i'm taking.

so my guess: guide is wrong, either loh or ll is essential.


you're having problems post patch? Seems odd. Also your armor is kind of low for having so much resist. Either way, I'd assume you could do act3 post-patch.
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zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 23:03:40
June 19 2012 23:03 GMT
#1993
On June 20 2012 08:00 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 07:55 Corvi wrote:
i read that guide and (if i didnt miss it) not a single word about life leech.

im running a 850 dps 150str/150vit weapon currently resulting in 18k dps with 8000 armor, 40k life, 1000-1100 all resistances (with shout) highest tier 20% block shield. not that bad i think, but no, i can definately not tank act 3 inferno elites. revange just doesnt bring enough life back from all the dmg i'm taking.

so my guess: guide is wrong, either loh or ll is essential.


you're having problems post patch? Seems odd. Also your armor is kind of low for having so much resist. Either way, I'd assume you could do act3 post-patch.

patch is not yet on eu. but is it true that dmg is reduced by 35-45 % on act3-4??? wtf._. too much
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 19 2012 23:04 GMT
#1994
Not sure of the exact number but it's significant. I can even tank a bit in MF gear.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 23:35:24
June 19 2012 23:21 GMT
#1995
small tip for anyone leveling a barb/releveling in hardcore

at about 45/46 if you have ~1k dps and decent other stats you can level off the first boss in act4 over and over. using WotB(insanity) + earthquake you can drop him in 3-4 seconds. i just leveled from 49-50 in 12 minutes, roughly 500k xp


second tip for people wanting to farm act1 in mf gear post patch.

spec

frenzy side arm
war cry impunity
WotB insanity
earthquake the mountains call
leap iron impact
revenge provocation

aka standard

SECRET SUPER TIP (probably kinda obvious) furious charge merciless assault.

for trash, spam charge over and over, the 1 second knock up allows you to charge forever basically taking no damage. even in a terrible gimp suit with maxed MF you can kill pretty much any act1 trash with 0 risk. when you find an elite pack simple blow your cds and melt them in 10 seconds. obviously faster with better gear but you can get through a butcher run with crap tank stats, better weapon really helps though.

On June 20 2012 07:55 Corvi wrote:
i read that guide and (if i didnt miss it) not a single word about life leech.

im running a 850 dps 150str/150vit weapon currently resulting in 18k dps with 8000 armor, 40k life, 1000-1100 all resistances (with shout) highest tier 20% block shield. not that bad i think, but no, i can definately not tank act 3 inferno elites. revange just doesnt bring enough life back from all the dmg i'm taking.

so my guess: guide is wrong, either loh is essential.


this bit. change weapon, drop the vit for a gem socket. buy blackthornes medal, recieve cake. before i sold all my gear my barb had 12k armor. dont undervalue strength, increasing your dps and armor is godly.

On June 20 2012 08:03 zomgE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 08:00 crms wrote:
On June 20 2012 07:55 Corvi wrote:
i read that guide and (if i didnt miss it) not a single word about life leech.

im running a 850 dps 150str/150vit weapon currently resulting in 18k dps with 8000 armor, 40k life, 1000-1100 all resistances (with shout) highest tier 20% block shield. not that bad i think, but no, i can definately not tank act 3 inferno elites. revange just doesnt bring enough life back from all the dmg i'm taking.

so my guess: guide is wrong, either loh or ll is essential.


you're having problems post patch? Seems odd. Also your armor is kind of low for having so much resist. Either way, I'd assume you could do act3 post-patch.

patch is not yet on eu. but is it true that dmg is reduced by 35-45 % on act3-4??? wtf._. too much


ye this is retardo if true. my complaints about act2/3 were always that other classes had it too easy, not that my barb was having too hard a time. if i can get gear to complete this game (while being a complete casual) in 2 weeks then what else am i supposed to do?

oh ye thats right play hardcore, sell gear on rmah ;D
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
June 20 2012 00:31 GMT
#1996
I am not really excited but I want to see how much I can tank now.
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 20 2012 01:47 GMT
#1997
seems that tank spec or 2h with heavy, heavy survival gear is still the only way to go. No beat ass mode just yet. With that, I'm done with this game. I can't keep convincing myself to play just because I loved diablo2 so much and am a fanboy of the diablo series. Eventually reality sets in that this game is just not as good as it should be and there are too many fundamental dynamics that just aren't fun or I just don't agree with. I have to wakeup at somepoint remove the nostalgia glasses and see the game for what it really is.

Back to dota2, if they ever make this game fun, I'll be back. Toodles. <3
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LancerJ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 01:51:39
June 20 2012 01:50 GMT
#1998
Didn't test Rakanoth but Siegebreaker and Izual can now be tanked quite easily. On top of the across the board ~33% damage reduction those two bosses have received additional 33% or so damage reductions (combined 60-70%) so they're now pretty much "hold down left click until dead' type encounters. It's a bit boring now but that's a considerable improvement over 'can only stand in melee range when ignore pain is active' type encounters. This is with pretty much the same skills/equipment that I used before, 40% block, 11k armor, 1100 physical resist, 27% melee damage reduction, 8% elite damage reduction.
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 05:08:07
June 20 2012 04:59 GMT
#1999
It's pretty much possible to facetank anything now. With 1100 resists and 1200 loh I can just stand there and spam my cooldowns and my life never really goes down. At the same time I feel like the IAS nerf has taken the fun out of the more offensive builds, especially 2h. All in all it feels quite boring now. Maybe the damage nerf brought by the patch has made new, funnier solutions possible, such as gearing for crit and going back to using fury spenders... who knows. But after completing inferno with pre-patch monster damage and pre-patch IAS the game feels a bit dull now. I'm probably going give a try to hardcore see if it brings the fun factor back, or shelve the game until the xpac. Anyway, barb was a blast to play, happy I picked that class.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 07:40:20
June 20 2012 07:38 GMT
#2000
the 2-hand build is basically only wait for 2-min cooldowns on WotB and EQ right? Giving up a shield is a hard thing to do, unless this patch totally lets us tank easily without the block chance?
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