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Escavalier
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada62 Posts
May 31 2012 20:46 GMT
#1061
Almost level 60 on my Barb. Are there any cheap or cost-efficient legendaries that I should look into? Or should I just stick with yellows/blues for the time being?
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
May 31 2012 20:49 GMT
#1062
On June 01 2012 05:46 Escavalier wrote:
Almost level 60 on my Barb. Are there any cheap or cost-efficient legendaries that I should look into? Or should I just stick with yellows/blues for the time being?


You should be ready to change from "Kill everything in 10 sec" to "Tank the shit out of everything with half the DPS of hell difficulty" :D
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 31 2012 20:52 GMT
#1063
That's really boring, though. However, look into Kymbo's Gold(Doesn't need good roll, just over 250 life on hit) and String of Ears
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LancerJ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States160 Posts
May 31 2012 20:56 GMT
#1064
Don't think this has been posted yet; 5 stack Azmodan kill with a dual wield Weapon Throw build.



Screen shot of stats (presumably including crit buffs from Overpower and Revenge) with 383k peak dps, slightly different from the above boss build:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Twitch.tv channel.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 31 2012 21:22 GMT
#1065
kinda seems like fun at first to be balls out like that but a throw weapon barb just seems so unfun and weird when I really think about it. I really just want to smash things to bits.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 31 2012 21:34 GMT
#1066
Hmm that video totally inspired me, time to get a second weapon
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Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
May 31 2012 21:59 GMT
#1067
On June 01 2012 05:44 heishe wrote:
Just tested it with a new shield (300 more armor and 25% block,~4k block amount), doesn't change anything. If anything, it feels like it's gotten worse because this cost me about 100 resall and also 3k or so hp, and also some damage.

I guess I just have to farm Act 1 some more and buy better equipment. Probably getting resall back up to 800 or something together with more block% that I now have should make it a bit better.


It is the hard balance. When you have All Res, Vit, Str, Block, Melee and Range Reductions.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 31 2012 22:14 GMT
#1068
On June 01 2012 05:52 Shikyo wrote:
That's really boring, though. However, look into Kymbo's Gold(Doesn't need good roll, just over 250 life on hit) and String of Ears

Goldskin is worth investing in as well, IMO. It's not going to last you as long as either Kymbo's or String, but the cheapest ones go for less than 100k. Even after you've replaced it, it's still also good as part of an MF set.
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r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1083 Posts
May 31 2012 22:21 GMT
#1069
So i finally started ACT II inferno. First elite group: Jailer Frozen Waller Extra Health Wasps. Seriously fuck you Blizzard. I dodged NO elite Group so far and some epic 6 minute fights were really enjoyable but this was impossible.
I just sacrificed 80 resist for a further 10k hp and 1.5k dps. Was a mistake i guess... 42k hp, 10k dps, 500 LoH, 9k armor, 400-500 resists, 18% melee dmg reduction fully buffed atm (armor/resist shout, +25% damage on 100% fury). Maybe i'm just lacking skill.

I think i'll wait for a barb patch and get my WD to 60... We will be buffed/changed somehow that's for sure if they really want all classes equally able to make it through inferno.
I also feel forced into that loltank build. The thing that sucks the most though is, that as a barb i basically got a delayed start considering farming money and items. You cannot patch that away.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 31 2012 22:24 GMT
#1070
On June 01 2012 07:21 r00ty wrote:
I think i'll wait for a barb patch and get my WD to 60... We will be buffed/changed somehow that's for sure if they really want all classes equally able to make it through inferno.

I said this already. I believe Barbarian is the only class that's progressing through Inferno at the rate Blizzard intended. This means that it's very possible that things will stay the way they are for us, and they'll nerf the other classes.

On June 01 2012 07:21 r00ty wrote:
I also feel forced into that loltank build. The thing that sucks the most though is, that as a barb i basically got a delayed start considering farming money and items. You cannot patch that away.

You're not forced into a tank build. There are plenty of advantages to the Seismic Slam/Weapon Throw builds. It's probably even debatable that the only reason tank builds became the "default" way to play is because Kripparian did so, and he's the highest profile Barb player.
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TheSkEncrypt
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom30 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 22:37:14
May 31 2012 22:24 GMT
#1071
Well I finally completed Inferno as a barb and my gear has been getting better and better, currently farming the 1st boss on Act 4 due to it being super fast and the potential of high damage weapons is pretty good.

Currently streaming!
STREAM STATUS: ONLINE | www.twitch.tv/theskencrypt (Dota 2 Very High MM & Scrims)
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 22:32:28
May 31 2012 22:31 GMT
#1072
My only issue with goldskin at all is the the vital you can get from it is pretty low, and chest armor is a slot you can get a LOT of your vital from. Otherwise its pretty nice, I got one with 60 vital
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Lemonerer
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel135 Posts
May 31 2012 22:39 GMT
#1073
On June 01 2012 07:24 TheSkEncrypt wrote:
Well I finally completed Inferno as a barb and my gear has been getting better and better, currently farming the 1st boss on Act 4 due to it being super fast and the potential of high damage weapons is pretty good.

Currently streaming!



Can u please show your stats and items ? Im trying to get through act 3 and I really don't know what should I focus on
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 22:46:32
May 31 2012 22:40 GMT
#1074
You can get an Ivory Tower for less 200k gold as well, I could see it being useful to start a set. With + to all resists, + %life and reduced damage from melee attacks, it's not a bad legendary for barbs, but you can get decent rare shields around the the same price range as well. For shields, a lot depends on if the seller actually paid attention to the base block, sometimes you can get 20% block shields for a very low amount of gold.

Just got a 19% block, 35 physical resist, 27 all resists, 11% life shield for 70k. It's not a godly shield by all means, but 70k is nothing, and I lacked a decent shield. Bumped my resists to 700, but I still need to work on vitality, only 30k HP.
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1083 Posts
May 31 2012 22:42 GMT
#1075
On June 01 2012 07:24 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 07:21 r00ty wrote:
I think i'll wait for a barb patch and get my WD to 60... We will be buffed/changed somehow that's for sure if they really want all classes equally able to make it through inferno.

I said this already. I believe Barbarian is the only class that's progressing through Inferno at the rate Blizzard intended. This means that it's very possible that things will stay the way they are for us, and they'll nerf the other classes.

Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 07:21 r00ty wrote:
I also feel forced into that loltank build. The thing that sucks the most though is, that as a barb i basically got a delayed start considering farming money and items. You cannot patch that away.

You're not forced into a tank build. There are plenty of advantages to the Seismic Slam/Weapon Throw builds. It's probably even debatable that the only reason tank builds became the "default" way to play is because Kripparian did so, and he's the highest profile Barb player.


Ye, i stumbled across the WT build a couple of days ago already and wanted to try it, spent all my resources on the tank stuff though and i think a good axe won't be the only thing you need to make it viable... Will have a closer look tomorrow but i am really a bit afraid of massive changes making all the money spent worthless. Well it will happen anyway sooner or later, i'm just really frustrated about the state of the game atm.
Among my friends, the barbarian that made it the furthest uses a heavy res.all dagger/shield build with massive atk. speed and LoH which just seems so wrong! (i mean the dagger not the res.)
mrgoochio
Profile Joined April 2009
United States557 Posts
May 31 2012 22:59 GMT
#1076
On June 01 2012 05:56 LancerJ wrote:
Don't think this has been posted yet; 5 stack Azmodan kill with a dual wield Weapon Throw build.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2VsGittno

Screen shot of stats (presumably including crit buffs from Overpower and Revenge) with 383k peak dps, slightly different from the above boss build:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Twitch.tv channel.

do you have any information on what items hes using or his detailed character sheet?
chengysogood
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 31 2012 23:06 GMT
#1077
On June 01 2012 07:39 Lemonerer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 07:24 TheSkEncrypt wrote:
Well I finally completed Inferno as a barb and my gear has been getting better and better, currently farming the 1st boss on Act 4 due to it being super fast and the potential of high damage weapons is pretty good.

Currently streaming!



Can u please show your stats and items ? Im trying to get through act 3 and I really don't know what should I focus on



Won't speak for him but it's likely the same type of gear/build everyone is currently using. I understand why people claim to have 'cleared' inferno, after all they likely beat all of the end bosses for each act. Therefor, they 'won'. It honestly doesn't take nearly as much gear to simply get a waypoint through some gimmick or corpse jumping and defeat the bosses. The bosses are generally the easiest part of the Act. I think most of the more active players in this discussion with above average gear could TP to diablo and beat him if they put in a little time. However, it is a nice goal if that's what you want to do.I'm kind of tired of seeing it. Every diablo discussion site (tl/reddit/d3 specific) are littered with posts "INFERNO CLEARED ON XYZ CLASS HERE IS HOW!" it's really not interesting to me in the slightest. I want to see players reliably and consistently crush through the acts, 5 NV Diablo runs, quickly and efficiently. I want to see how the real 'end game' is being handled, what's working best etc., I guess it's still exciting to some people as the game is still new but I don't consider beating diablo on inferno to be much of a feat.

I know this sounds kind of QQ, I'm just way more interested in a less superficial 'beating' of the game.

(I'm not accusing theSkEncrypt of doing what I'm complaining about just to be clear)
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ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
May 31 2012 23:21 GMT
#1078
On June 01 2012 08:06 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 07:39 Lemonerer wrote:
On June 01 2012 07:24 TheSkEncrypt wrote:
Well I finally completed Inferno as a barb and my gear has been getting better and better, currently farming the 1st boss on Act 4 due to it being super fast and the potential of high damage weapons is pretty good.

Currently streaming!



Can u please show your stats and items ? Im trying to get through act 3 and I really don't know what should I focus on



Won't speak for him but it's likely the same type of gear/build everyone is currently using. I understand why people claim to have 'cleared' inferno, after all they likely beat all of the end bosses for each act. Therefor, they 'won'. It honestly doesn't take nearly as much gear to simply get a waypoint through some gimmick or corpse jumping and defeat the bosses. The bosses are generally the easiest part of the Act. I think most of the more active players in this discussion with above average gear could TP to diablo and beat him if they put in a little time. However, it is a nice goal if that's what you want to do.I'm kind of tired of seeing it. Every diablo discussion site (tl/reddit/d3 specific) are littered with posts "INFERNO CLEARED ON XYZ CLASS HERE IS HOW!" it's really not interesting to me in the slightest. I want to see players reliably and consistently crush through the acts, 5 NV Diablo runs, quickly and efficiently. I want to see how the real 'end game' is being handled, what's working best etc., I guess it's still exciting to some people as the game is still new but I don't consider beating diablo on inferno to be much of a feat.

I know this sounds kind of QQ, I'm just way more interested in a less superficial 'beating' of the game.

(I'm not accusing theSkEncrypt of doing what I'm complaining about just to be clear)


I actually agree with this sentiment.

Doing 5NV runs quickly and efficiently should be the "goal", as clearly (if at all possible) it would be the most efficient way of farming top-end stuff. At least as far as i can see.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
TheSkEncrypt
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom30 Posts
May 31 2012 23:26 GMT
#1079
On June 01 2012 08:06 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 07:39 Lemonerer wrote:
On June 01 2012 07:24 TheSkEncrypt wrote:
Well I finally completed Inferno as a barb and my gear has been getting better and better, currently farming the 1st boss on Act 4 due to it being super fast and the potential of high damage weapons is pretty good.

Currently streaming!



Can u please show your stats and items ? Im trying to get through act 3 and I really don't know what should I focus on



Won't speak for him but it's likely the same type of gear/build everyone is currently using. I understand why people claim to have 'cleared' inferno, after all they likely beat all of the end bosses for each act. Therefor, they 'won'. It honestly doesn't take nearly as much gear to simply get a waypoint through some gimmick or corpse jumping and defeat the bosses. The bosses are generally the easiest part of the Act. I think most of the more active players in this discussion with above average gear could TP to diablo and beat him if they put in a little time. However, it is a nice goal if that's what you want to do.I'm kind of tired of seeing it. Every diablo discussion site (tl/reddit/d3 specific) are littered with posts "INFERNO CLEARED ON XYZ CLASS HERE IS HOW!" it's really not interesting to me in the slightest. I want to see players reliably and consistently crush through the acts, 5 NV Diablo runs, quickly and efficiently. I want to see how the real 'end game' is being handled, what's working best etc., I guess it's still exciting to some people as the game is still new but I don't consider beating diablo on inferno to be much of a feat.

I know this sounds kind of QQ, I'm just way more interested in a less superficial 'beating' of the game.

(I'm not accusing theSkEncrypt of doing what I'm complaining about just to be clear)


Yep, I know exactly what you're saying, well I've been streaming the majority of the time I've been playing on Inferno solo and have spent many hours on every act wiping and wiping and wiping until I manage to adapt (by changing skill builds, items etc.)

I always try to clear everything I come in contact with, I rarely skip anything and anyone who regularly watches my stream can vouch for that

Also my gear isn'#t too standard, I have:

64k hp
70% all resist
70% armor
16% reduction from melee
17k DMG (unbuffed)

alot of other barbs that I see soloing have incredibly low damage but I have pretty high attack speed due to weapon and rings, also running a near 1k dps 1H which I found myself, my gear also consists of a lot of pieces I crafted myself!
STREAM STATUS: ONLINE | www.twitch.tv/theskencrypt (Dota 2 Very High MM & Scrims)
Lemonerer
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel135 Posts
May 31 2012 23:34 GMT
#1080
On June 01 2012 08:26 TheSkEncrypt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 08:06 crms wrote:
On June 01 2012 07:39 Lemonerer wrote:
On June 01 2012 07:24 TheSkEncrypt wrote:
Well I finally completed Inferno as a barb and my gear has been getting better and better, currently farming the 1st boss on Act 4 due to it being super fast and the potential of high damage weapons is pretty good.

Currently streaming!



Can u please show your stats and items ? Im trying to get through act 3 and I really don't know what should I focus on



Won't speak for him but it's likely the same type of gear/build everyone is currently using. I understand why people claim to have 'cleared' inferno, after all they likely beat all of the end bosses for each act. Therefor, they 'won'. It honestly doesn't take nearly as much gear to simply get a waypoint through some gimmick or corpse jumping and defeat the bosses. The bosses are generally the easiest part of the Act. I think most of the more active players in this discussion with above average gear could TP to diablo and beat him if they put in a little time. However, it is a nice goal if that's what you want to do.I'm kind of tired of seeing it. Every diablo discussion site (tl/reddit/d3 specific) are littered with posts "INFERNO CLEARED ON XYZ CLASS HERE IS HOW!" it's really not interesting to me in the slightest. I want to see players reliably and consistently crush through the acts, 5 NV Diablo runs, quickly and efficiently. I want to see how the real 'end game' is being handled, what's working best etc., I guess it's still exciting to some people as the game is still new but I don't consider beating diablo on inferno to be much of a feat.

I know this sounds kind of QQ, I'm just way more interested in a less superficial 'beating' of the game.

(I'm not accusing theSkEncrypt of doing what I'm complaining about just to be clear)


Yep, I know exactly what you're saying, well I've been streaming the majority of the time I've been playing on Inferno solo and have spent many hours on every act wiping and wiping and wiping until I manage to adapt (by changing skill builds, items etc.)

I always try to clear everything I come in contact with, I rarely skip anything and anyone who regularly watches my stream can vouch for that

Also my gear isn'#t too standard, I have:

64k hp
70% all resist
70% armor
16% reduction from melee
17k DMG (unbuffed)

alot of other barbs that I see soloing have incredibly low damage but I have pretty high attack speed due to weapon and rings, also running a near 1k dps 1H which I found myself, my gear also consists of a lot of pieces I crafted myself!


Thanks for posting that! I have a few questions.

How much resist do u have to make it to 70%? (I know armor is ~10k)

Do you have any + life on hit? And if you don't than why exactly is the attack speed important? thought only the average dmg matters.

I assume the 16% reduction comes from a String of Ears belt?

Do you recommend to spend money on % block or it aint that important?

This helps so much man, thanks!
Also would be happy to watch your stream pwning inferno :D
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