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Hey fellow barbarian friends
I asked before and failed to find life on hit ratings about WW. I tried dozens of time but everytime it seems there is a different rating on ww skill. If someone manage to find it i would be greatly appreciated. If life on hit rating is too low on ww, i will pass life on hit completely.
Anyway I can clear act1 very easily. Killed Butcher at 2min 7sec. I don't have any problems with elites (except invul minions. They can be really hard). I kill them 15 sec. But hit act2 wall very hard. Skills:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#hWYVkP!Yeb!bcZccZ
As you can see i focus on a crit build and it served me extremely well. Due to having almost %40 crit chance, WW also give me extremely good life regen. When i enter Berserk mode i see 44k dmg on inventory (Frenzy %4 dmg bonus also work huge at this phase). Revenge crits goes sky And my advice is don't forget to add some huge life on kill on your gear. My axe gives me 2.6k heal after each kill. (almost %8 heal per kill instantly. You can completely pass triumph rune.)
My question is... I know i have to increase my defence a lot but i don't know where and how to start. My items seems really good ATM and don't wanna change them :D I spend 450k on my axe but all of others are between 50-100k. (boots are 5k ) I have 1.5m and don't know where to spend. Can someone help me?
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Edit: aarghhhh. I spend 30 minutes for these 
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The best way to increase defense is to replace gears in favor of Resist All and VIT
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On June 01 2012 00:45 Shikyo wrote:
Oh don't get it wrong, I got carried through most of act 3 and can only solo maybe half the elites if lucky
Your Barb has been 60 for far shorter than Caphe and mine, but you've gotten to Act 3 while I'm still on A2 (not sure about Caphe's progress).
Maybe I'm just bad or I don't farm enough.
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On June 01 2012 01:18 Aceace wrote:Hey fellow barbarian friends I asked before and failed to find life on hit ratings about WW. I tried dozens of time but everytime it seems there is a different rating on ww skill. If someone manage to find it i would be greatly appreciated. If life on hit rating is too low on ww, i will pass life on hit completely. Anyway I can clear act1 very easily. Killed Butcher at 2min 7sec. I don't have any problems with elites (except invul minions. They can be really hard). I kill them 15 sec. But hit act2 wall very hard. Skills: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#hWYVkP!Yeb!bcZccZAs you can see i focus on a crit build and it served me extremely well. Due to having almost %40 crit chance, WW also give me extremely good life regen. When i enter Berserk mode i see 44k dmg on inventory (Frenzy %4 dmg bonus also work huge at this phase). Revenge crits goes sky And my advice is don't forget to add some huge life on kill on your gear. My axe gives me 2.6k heal after each kill. (almost %8 heal per kill instantly. You can completely pass triumph rune.) My question is... I know i have to increase my defence a lot but i don't know where and how to start. My items seems really good ATM and don't wanna change them :D I spend 450k on my axe but all of others are between 50-100k. (boots are 5k ) I have 1.5m and don't know where to spend. Can someone help me? Overall: + Show Spoiler +Gear: + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +Edit: aarghhhh. I spend 30 minutes for these
You need to replace gloves and legs with pieces that have resist all, vit, and str.
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On June 01 2012 01:31 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 00:45 Shikyo wrote:
Oh don't get it wrong, I got carried through most of act 3 and can only solo maybe half the elites if lucky Your Barb has been 60 for far shorter than Caphe and mine, but you've gotten to Act 3 while I'm still on A2 (not sure about Caphe's progress). Maybe I'm just bad or I don't farm enough.
Seems quite strange sometimes how gear happen to work out. Me and my DH friend who I always run with were stuck on A1 Inferno for almost a week (we hit 60 the first weekend of D3 release), bein unable to fully break into A2, but with a few gear swaps from me and a skill change and for some reason we decided to do A2 5NV Maghda run yesterday and it worked. Then decided to do A3 5NV Siegebreaker run, an it also was successful. Just goes to show how it's easy to get too caught up with numbers and the overall look/stats you want to have and little upgrades all add up in the end.
One gear swap, while it may not seem significant may been the difference between getting 3-shot to 4-shot, or an extra 2 seconds to DPS, or beig able to kill a monster in 6 hits instead of 8. I used to play in a top WoW progression guild, so it's been built within me to value every small advantage I can find.
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So...
Call me a noob but:
TIL you have to ACTIVATE revenge when it procs, it's not automatic.
Also, TIL revenge is awesome and almost essential. Good AOE and amazing healing. With the 30% rune it's almost always on.
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Revenge is pretty much THE core skill that drives the tank Barbarian.
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On June 01 2012 00:45 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 00:38 TheYango wrote:On June 01 2012 00:08 Caphe wrote:You can't really run a DPS Barb right now, not with out 20 millions to spend on the AH anyway. I know that if I switch to 1H+sheild I can do ACT 2 no problem, but I still want to see how far a DW Barb can go atm. I am in no hurry to progress though since I can't play much of Diablo in the next 2 weeks . Even with 1.4 life leech 800 resist DW Barb still got murder too quick by some rare/elite in ACT 2. I will try to get my DPS up to 17K and see if I can't handle it  @Bemanner: Sometimes you will just have to ignore Shikyo's comment, hes just like that. He got a QQ thread naming after him in the LoL sub-forum I think you're underestimating the effectiveness of Seismic Slam builds. I did too, but its hard to argue with Shikyo's progression with such a build. Oh don't get it wrong, I got carried through most of act 3 and can only solo maybe half the elites if lucky Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 00:01 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On May 31 2012 23:22 Shikyo wrote:On May 31 2012 22:21 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On May 31 2012 22:13 TheYango wrote:On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.
Not there yet, but from my impression, 5-stacking Belial requires you to do a lot of running around to other places to get stacks, whereas running Kulle lets you smoothly get stacks from his 2 shadow lock things. Not sure about drop number or quality, but from a time efficiency standpoint, running Kulle seems more straightforward. If you're running Belial with no stacks, you may as well just be doing Iskatu or aspects. ofc belial with stacks. good thing is he has a guaranteed group just infront of him. in the oasis and the road to maghda there are usually enough to get 4 stacks relatively short. guess will try both today and settle with whats more time efficient. kulle def is safer and deaths on belial waste a ton of time. also the farthest checkpoint i have is act3 after the siegebreaker. and i doubt ill live long in act4 <.< On May 31 2012 22:14 Shikyo wrote:On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:so after i upgraded some slots i tried kulle again. worked out rather easy, 2 golems die during wrath with some time left to dps him. rest isnt hard then. then tried belial and got him on my second try, wrathed him down in phase 2, phase 3 is outside of invisible fireballs and stupid fuckups no real problem. stats for reference(pic): + Show Spoiler +standart runes, lifeleech/provocation/impunity/iron impact/sidearm/double dmg and yes im playing without a shield. barbs dont wear shields. end of story now need a nice 1.1k+ 2hand with some stats and 600+ life on hit ~~ so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement. I honestly don't understand why you are going for a defensive build and using a 2h weapon, seems like you're just shooting yourself in the leg. might be. but more offensive builds result in me dying too fast and random. and i plain refuse to use a shield. right now i can survive most things in act2 well and kill quite fast, happy with that. i know that a decent 1h+ shield would bump my survivability up alot but outside of maybe getting some as a sidegrade for coop games in the future i just dont want to go that route. if i was jsut playing for most efficiency i wouldve done the remaining 20 lvls on my sorc instead of "wasting" time on my barb for days anyways.whats the point on playing barb when i cant smash things with a big weapon :> What's the point of 2hander if you don't go DPS? That was my point. That's really bad DPS even for 1h and shield, it just makes no sense to me. the point is style ,personal preference and if you want a ingame reason a balanced build that lets me farm act2 now without random spike deaths and decent killspeed. and as skyr said i doubt 16kdps is bad for 1h. unless evryone is running around with 1k+ 1handers nowadays . but dps will increase alot anyways once i find a nice weapon since 950dps isnt esp great for a 2h <.< By the way if you don't use Weapon Mastery I have a 1172 DPS 2h mighty weapon for rather cheap
rest of stats? just bought a 1163 2h with 1xx vit and 700 life on hit <.<
On June 01 2012 01:58 TheYango wrote:
Revenge is pretty much THE core skill that drives the tank Barbarian.
would even say revenge is THE core skill for evry barbarian thats not playing the ranged kiting game. if you get up and close revenge is a must.
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On June 01 2012 01:31 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 00:45 Shikyo wrote:
Oh don't get it wrong, I got carried through most of act 3 and can only solo maybe half the elites if lucky Your Barb has been 60 for far shorter than Caphe and mine, but you've gotten to Act 3 while I'm still on A2 (not sure about Caphe's progress). Maybe I'm just bad or I don't farm enough.
I didn't play much these days, and because of my ignorance to use a shield. I now do believe that Barb no matter what build you are doing a shield is quite necessary until you can finish Inferno and find a sweet farming spot to gear up for your non-shield Barb. I can drag my way through ACT 2 if I want though, but when you can only play around 1 hour a day there is no point in that .
@Shikyo: by DPS Barb I meant non-shield Barb. But all that spike damages in Inferno right now is quite difficult to sustain for a non-shield Barb.
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On June 01 2012 01:31 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 00:45 Shikyo wrote:
Oh don't get it wrong, I got carried through most of act 3 and can only solo maybe half the elites if lucky Your Barb has been 60 for far shorter than Caphe and mine, but you've gotten to Act 3 while I'm still on A2 (not sure about Caphe's progress). Maybe I'm just bad or I don't farm enough.
Did you check hours played?
Just curious.
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On June 01 2012 02:07 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 00:45 Shikyo wrote:On June 01 2012 00:38 TheYango wrote:On June 01 2012 00:08 Caphe wrote:You can't really run a DPS Barb right now, not with out 20 millions to spend on the AH anyway. I know that if I switch to 1H+sheild I can do ACT 2 no problem, but I still want to see how far a DW Barb can go atm. I am in no hurry to progress though since I can't play much of Diablo in the next 2 weeks . Even with 1.4 life leech 800 resist DW Barb still got murder too quick by some rare/elite in ACT 2. I will try to get my DPS up to 17K and see if I can't handle it @Bemanner: Sometimes you will just have to ignore Shikyo's comment, hes just like that. He got a QQ thread naming after him in the LoL sub-forum I think you're underestimating the effectiveness of Seismic Slam builds. I did too, but its hard to argue with Shikyo's progression with such a build. Oh don't get it wrong, I got carried through most of act 3 and can only solo maybe half the elites if lucky On June 01 2012 00:01 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On May 31 2012 23:22 Shikyo wrote:On May 31 2012 22:21 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On May 31 2012 22:13 TheYango wrote:On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.
Not there yet, but from my impression, 5-stacking Belial requires you to do a lot of running around to other places to get stacks, whereas running Kulle lets you smoothly get stacks from his 2 shadow lock things. Not sure about drop number or quality, but from a time efficiency standpoint, running Kulle seems more straightforward. If you're running Belial with no stacks, you may as well just be doing Iskatu or aspects. ofc belial with stacks. good thing is he has a guaranteed group just infront of him. in the oasis and the road to maghda there are usually enough to get 4 stacks relatively short. guess will try both today and settle with whats more time efficient. kulle def is safer and deaths on belial waste a ton of time. also the farthest checkpoint i have is act3 after the siegebreaker. and i doubt ill live long in act4 <.< On May 31 2012 22:14 Shikyo wrote:On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:so after i upgraded some slots i tried kulle again. worked out rather easy, 2 golems die during wrath with some time left to dps him. rest isnt hard then. then tried belial and got him on my second try, wrathed him down in phase 2, phase 3 is outside of invisible fireballs and stupid fuckups no real problem. stats for reference(pic): + Show Spoiler +standart runes, lifeleech/provocation/impunity/iron impact/sidearm/double dmg and yes im playing without a shield. barbs dont wear shields. end of story now need a nice 1.1k+ 2hand with some stats and 600+ life on hit ~~ so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement. I honestly don't understand why you are going for a defensive build and using a 2h weapon, seems like you're just shooting yourself in the leg. might be. but more offensive builds result in me dying too fast and random. and i plain refuse to use a shield. right now i can survive most things in act2 well and kill quite fast, happy with that. i know that a decent 1h+ shield would bump my survivability up alot but outside of maybe getting some as a sidegrade for coop games in the future i just dont want to go that route. if i was jsut playing for most efficiency i wouldve done the remaining 20 lvls on my sorc instead of "wasting" time on my barb for days anyways.whats the point on playing barb when i cant smash things with a big weapon :> What's the point of 2hander if you don't go DPS? That was my point. That's really bad DPS even for 1h and shield, it just makes no sense to me. the point is style ,personal preference and if you want a ingame reason a balanced build that lets me farm act2 now without random spike deaths and decent killspeed. and as skyr said i doubt 16kdps is bad for 1h. unless evryone is running around with 1k+ 1handers nowadays . but dps will increase alot anyways once i find a nice weapon since 950dps isnt esp great for a 2h <.< By the way if you don't use Weapon Mastery I have a 1172 DPS 2h mighty weapon for rather cheap rest of stats? just bought a 1163 2h with 1xx vit and 700 life on hit <.< Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 01:58 TheYango wrote:
Revenge is pretty much THE core skill that drives the tank Barbarian. would even say revenge is THE core skill for evry barbarian thats not playing the ranged kiting game. if you get up and close revenge is a must.
I'm looking for other builds, I've gone my own set of 2-3 different ones but I'm curious to see what other people are using.
Weapon Throw? Dreadbomb?
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Revenge only good after Provocation. Other than that, I think any other different skill is much more effective.
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On June 01 2012 01:53 Krowser wrote:
So...
Call me a noob but:
TIL you have to ACTIVATE revenge when it procs, it's not automatic.
Also, TIL revenge is awesome and almost essential. Good AOE and amazing healing. With the 30% rune it's almost always on.
you are a noob But yeah, I also just discovered how amazing revenge is. I didn't use it before simply because there was no need but after getting to inferno, I learned how great it is. I recently cleared my first champion mob by literally spamming revenge because it was just always active (I was also always almost dead hehe).
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On June 01 2012 03:15 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 01:53 Krowser wrote:
So...
Call me a noob but:
TIL you have to ACTIVATE revenge when it procs, it's not automatic.
Also, TIL revenge is awesome and almost essential. Good AOE and amazing healing. With the 30% rune it's almost always on. you are a noob But yeah, I also just discovered how amazing revenge is. I didn't use it before simply because there was no need but after getting to inferno, I learned how great it is. I recently cleared my first champion mob by literally spamming revenge because it was just always active (I was also always almost dead hehe).
Which rune did you use?
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Auction duration reduced from 48 hours to 36 hours, yay. ops wrong thread... o well.
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On June 01 2012 03:40 skyR wrote:
Auction duration reduced from 48 hours to 36 hours, yay. ops wrong thread... o well.
really? nice. any other changes?
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On June 01 2012 03:42 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 03:40 skyR wrote:
Auction duration reduced from 48 hours to 36 hours, yay. ops wrong thread... o well. really? nice. any other changes?
That is awesome! Was there any other changes!?!?!
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At what rate am I supposed to progress in Inferno? I've been farming Act 1 since last friday, I don't really have any gold (currenlty 700k after a couple of hours of farming), 74% damage reduction from armor, 44k life, 730 all resist, and I'm still getting absolutely slaughtered by champions in Act 2 (even though I can handle most white mob packs fine now), even with builds that focus completely on defense (such as leap/ignore pain/leap rotation with revenge and dreadnought charge).
edit: also only 8k dps (11k if I switch out one of the skills for battle shout) and 10% block since I have no money for shields with decent block.
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Any ideas for a build vs Rakanoth? Hmm maybe I should try Earthquake cheese, actually now that I think of it, why didn't this cross my mind earlier? Double cooldown just might be enough...
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