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Robje
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands1044 Posts
May 31 2012 12:14 GMT
#1001
Meh, another Warden Butcher run with 5 stacks, getting 55-59 rares that just won't sell
Holy shit ziek leger
Losthorn
Profile Joined June 2010
Georgia351 Posts
May 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#1002
Basic formula for Act 2 inferno and beyond All resist > Vit > Armor > Str
You have to stack max defense items you will be doing crap damage but will be able to survive. Dont be afraid to wear All resist / Vit blues without strength until you can get / afford good rares. Act 2 you need 400 all resist at the very least, the more the better obviously. Revenge with Provocation rune is a must.
White-Ra "no need for cinema, just watch special taktiks"
Losthorn
Profile Joined June 2010
Georgia351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 12:36:46
May 31 2012 12:35 GMT
#1003
White-Ra "no need for cinema, just watch special taktiks"
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 13:01:58
May 31 2012 12:59 GMT
#1004
so after i upgraded some slots i tried kulle again. worked out rather easy, 2 golems die during wrath with some time left to dps him. rest isnt hard then.
then tried belial and got him on my second try, wrathed him down in phase 2, phase 3 is outside of invisible fireballs and stupid fuckups no real problem.

stats for reference(pic):
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


standart runes, lifeleech/provocation/impunity/iron impact/sidearm/double dmg
and yes im playing without a shield. barbs dont wear shields. end of story

now need a nice 1.1k+ 2hand with some stats and 600+ life on hit ~~

so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.

life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 31 2012 13:08 GMT
#1005
On May 31 2012 20:35 Robje wrote:
Hey guys, I just cleared Act 1 really easily, died a few times on nasty elite combos but nothing was really hard, the butcher died within 2 minutes. Farmed 5 stacks SK a few times, but I wanted to see how Act 2 goes... I die on the normal mobs there... quite a difference lol.
My stats are:
[image loading]
Resistances are without the shout, I do use that though.

As you can see I don't have a lot of gold right now, I have absolutely no luck with items, pretty much every rare is vendor trash as well.
Any upgrades I should work for besides stormshield? Should I farm warden-butcher a lot more and hope for a lot of items that sell on the AH or are just an upgrade for me?
Should I just get tons of resistance to all on most of my items, together with vitality/life%?



Don't go for a stormshield for a long time, it's of course the best Barbarian item in the game but your block is good and it definitely isn't a priority at this point.

Look for equipment that has 50+ All resist and a healthy amount of Vitality as well, preferably with +Armor. You are very far from being able to do Act 2 properly, but don't let that discourage yourself.

Go for a Kymbo with 250+ life on hit and a String of Ears(Can be one of the worst ones to begin with unless you want to save up 1mil+, you actually can do that just fine because you don't really need this for Butcher runs), those will be the biggest upgrades for you for the time being.

You are rather far away from being able to farm Act 2 properly, however you can do Halls of Agony runs, getting 5 stacks of Nephalem and killing Warden and Butcher with those, they both drop 3 rares and a ton of blues with full Nephalem Valor stacks. Even with bad luck, that's like 50-80k a run and you will get tens of blues and around 6 rares every run and you definitely will get lucky at some point, even if you don't there's almost always something you can sell for around 50k and it definitely adds up. After just 2-3 days of Butcher farming, you can afford at least a Kymbo and a String of Ears, and then you just need to get some All Resist/Vit/Armor gear(those can be rather cheap for totally decent pieces) and soon you'll be ready to tackle Act 2.

You probably want another weapon as well as your DPS seems relatively low, but it's not a priority. However, look for one with a good amount of Life on Hit, or at least a socket(you will place a vit rune there). Life on Hit is a lifesaver.

Your block is good, I wouldn't worry about upgrading your shield until after you have at least ~700-800 all resists and around 40k health with shout up.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 31 2012 13:13 GMT
#1006
On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.


Not there yet, but from my impression, 5-stacking Belial requires you to do a lot of running around to other places to get stacks, whereas running Kulle lets you smoothly get stacks from his 2 shadow lock things. Not sure about drop number or quality, but from a time efficiency standpoint, running Kulle seems more straightforward.

If you're running Belial with no stacks, you may as well just be doing Iskatu or aspects.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 31 2012 13:14 GMT
#1007
If you want to do Belial, you also do Kulle since they're back to back. Both are a waste of time though... lol.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 31 2012 13:14 GMT
#1008
On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so after i upgraded some slots i tried kulle again. worked out rather easy, 2 golems die during wrath with some time left to dps him. rest isnt hard then.
then tried belial and got him on my second try, wrathed him down in phase 2, phase 3 is outside of invisible fireballs and stupid fuckups no real problem.

stats for reference(pic):
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


standart runes, lifeleech/provocation/impunity/iron impact/sidearm/double dmg
and yes im playing without a shield. barbs dont wear shields. end of story

now need a nice 1.1k+ 2hand with some stats and 600+ life on hit ~~

so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.


I honestly don't understand why you are going for a defensive build and using a 2h weapon, seems like you're just shooting yourself in the leg.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 31 2012 13:19 GMT
#1009
Yeah, Revenge just seems way weaker with a 2H. The healing doesn't scale with your damage in any way, and you don't take advantage of the fact that Revenge can proc on shield blocks.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 13:28:21
May 31 2012 13:21 GMT
#1010
On May 31 2012 22:13 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.


Not there yet, but from my impression, 5-stacking Belial requires you to do a lot of running around to other places to get stacks, whereas running Kulle lets you smoothly get stacks from his 2 shadow lock things. Not sure about drop number or quality, but from a time efficiency standpoint, running Kulle seems more straightforward.

If you're running Belial with no stacks, you may as well just be doing Iskatu or aspects.


ofc belial with stacks. good thing is he has a guaranteed group just infront of him. in the oasis and the road to maghda there are usually enough to get 4 stacks relatively short.

guess will try both today and settle with whats more time efficient. kulle def is safer and deaths on belial waste a ton of time.

also the farthest checkpoint i have is act3 after the siegebreaker. and i doubt ill live long in act4 <.<

On May 31 2012 22:14 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so after i upgraded some slots i tried kulle again. worked out rather easy, 2 golems die during wrath with some time left to dps him. rest isnt hard then.
then tried belial and got him on my second try, wrathed him down in phase 2, phase 3 is outside of invisible fireballs and stupid fuckups no real problem.

stats for reference(pic):
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


standart runes, lifeleech/provocation/impunity/iron impact/sidearm/double dmg
and yes im playing without a shield. barbs dont wear shields. end of story

now need a nice 1.1k+ 2hand with some stats and 600+ life on hit ~~

so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.


I honestly don't understand why you are going for a defensive build and using a 2h weapon, seems like you're just shooting yourself in the leg.


might be. but more offensive builds result in me dying too fast and random. and i plain refuse to use a shield. right now i can survive most things in act2 well and kill quite fast, happy with that.

i know that a decent 1h+ shield would bump my survivability up alot but outside of maybe getting some as a sidegrade for coop games in the future i just dont want to go that route.

if i was jsut playing for most efficiency i wouldve done the remaining 20 lvls on my sorc instead of "wasting" time on my barb for days anyways.whats the point on playing barb when i cant smash things with a big weapon :>
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 31 2012 14:22 GMT
#1011
On May 31 2012 22:21 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 22:13 TheYango wrote:
On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.


Not there yet, but from my impression, 5-stacking Belial requires you to do a lot of running around to other places to get stacks, whereas running Kulle lets you smoothly get stacks from his 2 shadow lock things. Not sure about drop number or quality, but from a time efficiency standpoint, running Kulle seems more straightforward.

If you're running Belial with no stacks, you may as well just be doing Iskatu or aspects.


ofc belial with stacks. good thing is he has a guaranteed group just infront of him. in the oasis and the road to maghda there are usually enough to get 4 stacks relatively short.

guess will try both today and settle with whats more time efficient. kulle def is safer and deaths on belial waste a ton of time.

also the farthest checkpoint i have is act3 after the siegebreaker. and i doubt ill live long in act4 <.<

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 22:14 Shikyo wrote:
On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so after i upgraded some slots i tried kulle again. worked out rather easy, 2 golems die during wrath with some time left to dps him. rest isnt hard then.
then tried belial and got him on my second try, wrathed him down in phase 2, phase 3 is outside of invisible fireballs and stupid fuckups no real problem.

stats for reference(pic):
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


standart runes, lifeleech/provocation/impunity/iron impact/sidearm/double dmg
and yes im playing without a shield. barbs dont wear shields. end of story

now need a nice 1.1k+ 2hand with some stats and 600+ life on hit ~~

so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.


I honestly don't understand why you are going for a defensive build and using a 2h weapon, seems like you're just shooting yourself in the leg.


might be. but more offensive builds result in me dying too fast and random. and i plain refuse to use a shield. right now i can survive most things in act2 well and kill quite fast, happy with that.

i know that a decent 1h+ shield would bump my survivability up alot but outside of maybe getting some as a sidegrade for coop games in the future i just dont want to go that route.

if i was jsut playing for most efficiency i wouldve done the remaining 20 lvls on my sorc instead of "wasting" time on my barb for days anyways.whats the point on playing barb when i cant smash things with a big weapon :>

What's the point of 2hander if you don't go DPS? That was my point. That's really bad DPS even for 1h and shield, it just makes no sense to me.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 31 2012 14:29 GMT
#1012
16k DPS is really good DPS for 1H + shield...
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 15:01:55
May 31 2012 15:01 GMT
#1013
On May 31 2012 23:22 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 22:21 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On May 31 2012 22:13 TheYango wrote:
On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.


Not there yet, but from my impression, 5-stacking Belial requires you to do a lot of running around to other places to get stacks, whereas running Kulle lets you smoothly get stacks from his 2 shadow lock things. Not sure about drop number or quality, but from a time efficiency standpoint, running Kulle seems more straightforward.

If you're running Belial with no stacks, you may as well just be doing Iskatu or aspects.


ofc belial with stacks. good thing is he has a guaranteed group just infront of him. in the oasis and the road to maghda there are usually enough to get 4 stacks relatively short.

guess will try both today and settle with whats more time efficient. kulle def is safer and deaths on belial waste a ton of time.

also the farthest checkpoint i have is act3 after the siegebreaker. and i doubt ill live long in act4 <.<

On May 31 2012 22:14 Shikyo wrote:
On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so after i upgraded some slots i tried kulle again. worked out rather easy, 2 golems die during wrath with some time left to dps him. rest isnt hard then.
then tried belial and got him on my second try, wrathed him down in phase 2, phase 3 is outside of invisible fireballs and stupid fuckups no real problem.

stats for reference(pic):
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


standart runes, lifeleech/provocation/impunity/iron impact/sidearm/double dmg
and yes im playing without a shield. barbs dont wear shields. end of story

now need a nice 1.1k+ 2hand with some stats and 600+ life on hit ~~

so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.


I honestly don't understand why you are going for a defensive build and using a 2h weapon, seems like you're just shooting yourself in the leg.


might be. but more offensive builds result in me dying too fast and random. and i plain refuse to use a shield. right now i can survive most things in act2 well and kill quite fast, happy with that.

i know that a decent 1h+ shield would bump my survivability up alot but outside of maybe getting some as a sidegrade for coop games in the future i just dont want to go that route.

if i was jsut playing for most efficiency i wouldve done the remaining 20 lvls on my sorc instead of "wasting" time on my barb for days anyways.whats the point on playing barb when i cant smash things with a big weapon :>

What's the point of 2hander if you don't go DPS? That was my point. That's really bad DPS even for 1h and shield, it just makes no sense to me.


the point is style ,personal preference and if you want a ingame reason a balanced build that lets me farm act2 now without random spike deaths and decent killspeed.

and as skyr said i doubt 16kdps is bad for 1h. unless evryone is running around with 1k+ 1handers nowadays . but dps will increase alot anyways once i find a nice weapon since 950dps isnt esp great for a 2h <.<
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 15:09:48
May 31 2012 15:08 GMT
#1014
You can't really run a DPS Barb right now, not with out 20 millions to spend on the AH anyway. I know that if I switch to 1H+sheild I can do ACT 2 no problem, but I still want to see how far a DW Barb can go atm. I am in no hurry to progress though since I can't play much of Diablo in the next 2 weeks .

Even with 1.4 life leech 800 resist DW Barb still got murder too quick by some rare/elite in ACT 2. I will try to get my DPS up to 17K and see if I can't handle it

@Bemanner: Sometimes you will just have to ignore Shikyo's comment, hes just like that. He got a QQ thread naming after him in the LoL sub-forum
Terran
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 15:34:08
May 31 2012 15:29 GMT
#1015
Well I have 41k DPS with 1hander + shield after warcry but that's probably just me .-.

On June 01 2012 00:08 Caphe wrote:
You can't really run a DPS Barb right now, not with out 20 millions to spend on the AH anyway. I know that if I switch to 1H+sheild I can do ACT 2 no problem, but I still want to see how far a DW Barb can go atm. I am in no hurry to progress though since I can't play much of Diablo in the next 2 weeks .

Even with 1.4 life leech 800 resist DW Barb still got murder too quick by some rare/elite in ACT 2. I will try to get my DPS up to 17K and see if I can't handle it

@Bemanner: Sometimes you will just have to ignore Shikyo's comment, hes just like that. He got a QQ thread naming after him in the LoL sub-forum

Somehow I still am in act 4 with DPS barb

However I definitely wouldn't do DPS barb without shield, I think that that's probably suicide. However if you are going to do it, my suggestion is stacking crit chance and aspd and doing war cry/seismic slam, with leap to get away from surrounds although you will die in 0.1s. Need tons of resists and armor and lifesteal.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Robje
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands1044 Posts
May 31 2012 15:33 GMT
#1016
On May 31 2012 22:08 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:35 Robje wrote:
Hey guys, I just cleared Act 1 really easily, died a few times on nasty elite combos but nothing was really hard, the butcher died within 2 minutes. Farmed 5 stacks SK a few times, but I wanted to see how Act 2 goes... I die on the normal mobs there... quite a difference lol.
My stats are:
[image loading]
Resistances are without the shout, I do use that though.

As you can see I don't have a lot of gold right now, I have absolutely no luck with items, pretty much every rare is vendor trash as well.
Any upgrades I should work for besides stormshield? Should I farm warden-butcher a lot more and hope for a lot of items that sell on the AH or are just an upgrade for me?
Should I just get tons of resistance to all on most of my items, together with vitality/life%?



Don't go for a stormshield for a long time, it's of course the best Barbarian item in the game but your block is good and it definitely isn't a priority at this point.

Look for equipment that has 50+ All resist and a healthy amount of Vitality as well, preferably with +Armor. You are very far from being able to do Act 2 properly, but don't let that discourage yourself.

Go for a Kymbo with 250+ life on hit and a String of Ears(Can be one of the worst ones to begin with unless you want to save up 1mil+, you actually can do that just fine because you don't really need this for Butcher runs), those will be the biggest upgrades for you for the time being.

You are rather far away from being able to farm Act 2 properly, however you can do Halls of Agony runs, getting 5 stacks of Nephalem and killing Warden and Butcher with those, they both drop 3 rares and a ton of blues with full Nephalem Valor stacks. Even with bad luck, that's like 50-80k a run and you will get tens of blues and around 6 rares every run and you definitely will get lucky at some point, even if you don't there's almost always something you can sell for around 50k and it definitely adds up. After just 2-3 days of Butcher farming, you can afford at least a Kymbo and a String of Ears, and then you just need to get some All Resist/Vit/Armor gear(those can be rather cheap for totally decent pieces) and soon you'll be ready to tackle Act 2.

You probably want another weapon as well as your DPS seems relatively low, but it's not a priority. However, look for one with a good amount of Life on Hit, or at least a socket(you will place a vit rune there). Life on Hit is a lifesaver.

Your block is good, I wouldn't worry about upgrading your shield until after you have at least ~700-800 all resists and around 40k health with shout up.

Thaise for the post.
This weapon is with ~300 life on hit by the way, highest dps i would afford with LoH.
Holy shit ziek leger
Robje
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands1044 Posts
May 31 2012 15:33 GMT
#1017
On May 31 2012 22:08 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:35 Robje wrote:
Hey guys, I just cleared Act 1 really easily, died a few times on nasty elite combos but nothing was really hard, the butcher died within 2 minutes. Farmed 5 stacks SK a few times, but I wanted to see how Act 2 goes... I die on the normal mobs there... quite a difference lol.
My stats are:
[image loading]
Resistances are without the shout, I do use that though.

As you can see I don't have a lot of gold right now, I have absolutely no luck with items, pretty much every rare is vendor trash as well.
Any upgrades I should work for besides stormshield? Should I farm warden-butcher a lot more and hope for a lot of items that sell on the AH or are just an upgrade for me?
Should I just get tons of resistance to all on most of my items, together with vitality/life%?



Don't go for a stormshield for a long time, it's of course the best Barbarian item in the game but your block is good and it definitely isn't a priority at this point.

Look for equipment that has 50+ All resist and a healthy amount of Vitality as well, preferably with +Armor. You are very far from being able to do Act 2 properly, but don't let that discourage yourself.

Go for a Kymbo with 250+ life on hit and a String of Ears(Can be one of the worst ones to begin with unless you want to save up 1mil+, you actually can do that just fine because you don't really need this for Butcher runs), those will be the biggest upgrades for you for the time being.

You are rather far away from being able to farm Act 2 properly, however you can do Halls of Agony runs, getting 5 stacks of Nephalem and killing Warden and Butcher with those, they both drop 3 rares and a ton of blues with full Nephalem Valor stacks. Even with bad luck, that's like 50-80k a run and you will get tens of blues and around 6 rares every run and you definitely will get lucky at some point, even if you don't there's almost always something you can sell for around 50k and it definitely adds up. After just 2-3 days of Butcher farming, you can afford at least a Kymbo and a String of Ears, and then you just need to get some All Resist/Vit/Armor gear(those can be rather cheap for totally decent pieces) and soon you'll be ready to tackle Act 2.

You probably want another weapon as well as your DPS seems relatively low, but it's not a priority. However, look for one with a good amount of Life on Hit, or at least a socket(you will place a vit rune there). Life on Hit is a lifesaver.

Your block is good, I wouldn't worry about upgrading your shield until after you have at least ~700-800 all resists and around 40k health with shout up.

Thanks for the post.
This weapon is with ~300 life on hit by the way, highest dps i would afford with LoH.
Holy shit ziek leger
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 31 2012 15:38 GMT
#1018
On June 01 2012 00:08 Caphe wrote:
You can't really run a DPS Barb right now, not with out 20 millions to spend on the AH anyway. I know that if I switch to 1H+sheild I can do ACT 2 no problem, but I still want to see how far a DW Barb can go atm. I am in no hurry to progress though since I can't play much of Diablo in the next 2 weeks .

Even with 1.4 life leech 800 resist DW Barb still got murder too quick by some rare/elite in ACT 2. I will try to get my DPS up to 17K and see if I can't handle it

@Bemanner: Sometimes you will just have to ignore Shikyo's comment, hes just like that. He got a QQ thread naming after him in the LoL sub-forum

I think you're underestimating the effectiveness of Seismic Slam builds. I did too, but its hard to argue with Shikyo's progression with such a build.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 31 2012 15:45 GMT
#1019
On June 01 2012 00:38 TheYango wrote:
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On June 01 2012 00:08 Caphe wrote:
You can't really run a DPS Barb right now, not with out 20 millions to spend on the AH anyway. I know that if I switch to 1H+sheild I can do ACT 2 no problem, but I still want to see how far a DW Barb can go atm. I am in no hurry to progress though since I can't play much of Diablo in the next 2 weeks .

Even with 1.4 life leech 800 resist DW Barb still got murder too quick by some rare/elite in ACT 2. I will try to get my DPS up to 17K and see if I can't handle it

@Bemanner: Sometimes you will just have to ignore Shikyo's comment, hes just like that. He got a QQ thread naming after him in the LoL sub-forum

I think you're underestimating the effectiveness of Seismic Slam builds. I did too, but its hard to argue with Shikyo's progression with such a build.

Oh don't get it wrong, I got carried through most of act 3 and can only solo maybe half the elites if lucky

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On May 31 2012 23:22 Shikyo wrote:
On May 31 2012 22:21 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On May 31 2012 22:13 TheYango wrote:
On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.


Not there yet, but from my impression, 5-stacking Belial requires you to do a lot of running around to other places to get stacks, whereas running Kulle lets you smoothly get stacks from his 2 shadow lock things. Not sure about drop number or quality, but from a time efficiency standpoint, running Kulle seems more straightforward.

If you're running Belial with no stacks, you may as well just be doing Iskatu or aspects.


ofc belial with stacks. good thing is he has a guaranteed group just infront of him. in the oasis and the road to maghda there are usually enough to get 4 stacks relatively short.

guess will try both today and settle with whats more time efficient. kulle def is safer and deaths on belial waste a ton of time.

also the farthest checkpoint i have is act3 after the siegebreaker. and i doubt ill live long in act4 <.<

On May 31 2012 22:14 Shikyo wrote:
On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so after i upgraded some slots i tried kulle again. worked out rather easy, 2 golems die during wrath with some time left to dps him. rest isnt hard then.
then tried belial and got him on my second try, wrathed him down in phase 2, phase 3 is outside of invisible fireballs and stupid fuckups no real problem.

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standart runes, lifeleech/provocation/impunity/iron impact/sidearm/double dmg
and yes im playing without a shield. barbs dont wear shields. end of story

now need a nice 1.1k+ 2hand with some stats and 600+ life on hit ~~

so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.


I honestly don't understand why you are going for a defensive build and using a 2h weapon, seems like you're just shooting yourself in the leg.


might be. but more offensive builds result in me dying too fast and random. and i plain refuse to use a shield. right now i can survive most things in act2 well and kill quite fast, happy with that.

i know that a decent 1h+ shield would bump my survivability up alot but outside of maybe getting some as a sidegrade for coop games in the future i just dont want to go that route.

if i was jsut playing for most efficiency i wouldve done the remaining 20 lvls on my sorc instead of "wasting" time on my barb for days anyways.whats the point on playing barb when i cant smash things with a big weapon :>

What's the point of 2hander if you don't go DPS? That was my point. That's really bad DPS even for 1h and shield, it just makes no sense to me.


the point is style ,personal preference and if you want a ingame reason a balanced build that lets me farm act2 now without random spike deaths and decent killspeed.

and as skyr said i doubt 16kdps is bad for 1h. unless evryone is running around with 1k+ 1handers nowadays . but dps will increase alot anyways once i find a nice weapon since 950dps isnt esp great for a 2h <.<

By the way if you don't use Weapon Mastery I have a 1172 DPS 2h mighty weapon for rather cheap
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I fully plan on switching to a full dps/smash monsters build once the game settles and I can do it consistently and without getting insta-gibbed every other elite pack. Shikyo is just brave to do it right now while it's still pretty inefficient.
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