Barbarian - Builds/Discussion - Page 51

On May 31 2012 20:35 Robje wrote:
Hey guys, I just cleared Act 1 really easily, died a few times on nasty elite combos but nothing was really hard, the butcher died within 2 minutes. Farmed 5 stacks SK a few times, but I wanted to see how Act 2 goes... I die on the normal mobs there... quite a difference lol.
My stats are:

Resistances are without the shout, I do use that though.

As you can see I don't have a lot of gold right now, I have absolutely no luck with items, pretty much every rare is vendor trash as well.
Any upgrades I should work for besides stormshield? Should I farm warden-butcher a lot more and hope for a lot of items that sell on the AH or are just an upgrade for me?
Should I just get tons of resistance to all on most of my items, together with vitality/life%?

On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.

On May 31 2012 21:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
so after i upgraded some slots i tried kulle again. worked out rather easy, 2 golems die during wrath with some time left to dps him. rest isnt hard then.
then tried belial and got him on my second try, wrathed him down in phase 2, phase 3 is outside of invisible fireballs and stupid fuckups no real problem.

stats for reference(pic):
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standart runes, lifeleech/provocation/impunity/iron impact/sidearm/double dmg
and yes im playing without a shield. barbs dont wear shields. end of story

now need a nice 1.1k+ 2hand with some stats and 600+ life on hit ~~

so what are you guys farming in act2? maghda, kulle (both die in 2 mins) or belial which takes twice as long and i die sometimes to fail movement.

On May 31 2012 22:13 TheYango wrote:

Not there yet, but from my impression, 5-stacking Belial requires you to do a lot of running around to other places to get stacks, whereas running Kulle lets you smoothly get stacks from his 2 shadow lock things. Not sure about drop number or quality, but from a time efficiency standpoint, running Kulle seems more straightforward.

If you're running Belial with no stacks, you may as well just be doing Iskatu or aspects.

On May 31 2012 22:14 Shikyo wrote:

I honestly don't understand why you are going for a defensive build and using a 2h weapon, seems like you're just shooting yourself in the leg.

On May 31 2012 22:21 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:


ofc belial with stacks. good thing is he has a guaranteed group just infront of him. in the oasis and the road to maghda there are usually enough to get 4 stacks relatively short.

guess will try both today and settle with whats more time efficient. kulle def is safer and deaths on belial waste a ton of time.

also the farthest checkpoint i have is act3 after the siegebreaker. and i doubt ill live long in act4 <.<



might be. but more offensive builds result in me dying too fast and random. and i plain refuse to use a shield. right now i can survive most things in act2 well and kill quite fast, happy with that.

i know that a decent 1h+ shield would bump my survivability up alot but outside of maybe getting some as a sidegrade for coop games in the future i just dont want to go that route.

if i was jsut playing for most efficiency i wouldve done the remaining 20 lvls on my sorc instead of "wasting" time on my barb for days anyways.whats the point on playing barb when i cant smash things with a big weapon :>

On May 31 2012 23:22 Shikyo wrote:

What's the point of 2hander if you don't go DPS? That was my point. That's really bad DPS even for 1h and shield, it just makes no sense to me.

On June 01 2012 00:08 Caphe wrote:
You can't really run a DPS Barb right now, not with out 20 millions to spend on the AH anyway. I know that if I switch to 1H+sheild I can do ACT 2 no problem, but I still want to see how far a DW Barb can go atm. I am in no hurry to progress though since I can't play much of Diablo in the next 2 weeks .

Even with 1.4 life leech 800 resist DW Barb still got murder too quick by some rare/elite in ACT 2. I will try to get my DPS up to 17K and see if I can't handle it

@Bemanner: Sometimes you will just have to ignore Shikyo's comment, hes just like that. He got a QQ thread naming after him in the LoL sub-forum

On May 31 2012 22:08 Shikyo wrote:

Don't go for a stormshield for a long time, it's of course the best Barbarian item in the game but your block is good and it definitely isn't a priority at this point.

Look for equipment that has 50+ All resist and a healthy amount of Vitality as well, preferably with +Armor. You are very far from being able to do Act 2 properly, but don't let that discourage yourself.

Go for a Kymbo with 250+ life on hit and a String of Ears(Can be one of the worst ones to begin with unless you want to save up 1mil+, you actually can do that just fine because you don't really need this for Butcher runs), those will be the biggest upgrades for you for the time being.

You are rather far away from being able to farm Act 2 properly, however you can do Halls of Agony runs, getting 5 stacks of Nephalem and killing Warden and Butcher with those, they both drop 3 rares and a ton of blues with full Nephalem Valor stacks. Even with bad luck, that's like 50-80k a run and you will get tens of blues and around 6 rares every run and you definitely will get lucky at some point, even if you don't there's almost always something you can sell for around 50k and it definitely adds up. After just 2-3 days of Butcher farming, you can afford at least a Kymbo and a String of Ears, and then you just need to get some All Resist/Vit/Armor gear(those can be rather cheap for totally decent pieces) and soon you'll be ready to tackle Act 2.

You probably want another weapon as well as your DPS seems relatively low, but it's not a priority. However, look for one with a good amount of Life on Hit, or at least a socket(you will place a vit rune there). Life on Hit is a lifesaver.

Your block is good, I wouldn't worry about upgrading your shield until after you have at least ~700-800 all resists and around 40k health with shout up.

On May 31 2012 22:08 Shikyo wrote:

Don't go for a stormshield for a long time, it's of course the best Barbarian item in the game but your block is good and it definitely isn't a priority at this point.

Look for equipment that has 50+ All resist and a healthy amount of Vitality as well, preferably with +Armor. You are very far from being able to do Act 2 properly, but don't let that discourage yourself.

Go for a Kymbo with 250+ life on hit and a String of Ears(Can be one of the worst ones to begin with unless you want to save up 1mil+, you actually can do that just fine because you don't really need this for Butcher runs), those will be the biggest upgrades for you for the time being.

You are rather far away from being able to farm Act 2 properly, however you can do Halls of Agony runs, getting 5 stacks of Nephalem and killing Warden and Butcher with those, they both drop 3 rares and a ton of blues with full Nephalem Valor stacks. Even with bad luck, that's like 50-80k a run and you will get tens of blues and around 6 rares every run and you definitely will get lucky at some point, even if you don't there's almost always something you can sell for around 50k and it definitely adds up. After just 2-3 days of Butcher farming, you can afford at least a Kymbo and a String of Ears, and then you just need to get some All Resist/Vit/Armor gear(those can be rather cheap for totally decent pieces) and soon you'll be ready to tackle Act 2.

You probably want another weapon as well as your DPS seems relatively low, but it's not a priority. However, look for one with a good amount of Life on Hit, or at least a socket(you will place a vit rune there). Life on Hit is a lifesaver.

Your block is good, I wouldn't worry about upgrading your shield until after you have at least ~700-800 all resists and around 40k health with shout up.

On June 01 2012 00:08 Caphe wrote:
You can't really run a DPS Barb right now, not with out 20 millions to spend on the AH anyway. I know that if I switch to 1H+sheild I can do ACT 2 no problem, but I still want to see how far a DW Barb can go atm. I am in no hurry to progress though since I can't play much of Diablo in the next 2 weeks .

Even with 1.4 life leech 800 resist DW Barb still got murder too quick by some rare/elite in ACT 2. I will try to get my DPS up to 17K and see if I can't handle it

@Bemanner: Sometimes you will just have to ignore Shikyo's comment, hes just like that. He got a QQ thread naming after him in the LoL sub-forum

On June 01 2012 00:38 TheYango wrote:

I think you're underestimating the effectiveness of Seismic Slam builds. I did too, but its hard to argue with Shikyo's progression with such a build.

On June 01 2012 00:01 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:


the point is style ,personal preference and if you want a ingame reason a balanced build that lets me farm act2 now without random spike deaths and decent killspeed.

and as skyr said i doubt 16kdps is bad for 1h. unless evryone is running around with 1k+ 1handers nowadays . but dps will increase alot anyways once i find a nice weapon since 950dps isnt esp great for a 2h <.<