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Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
May 31 2012 02:51 GMT
#981
On May 31 2012 11:47 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 11:40 Coolness53 wrote:
On May 31 2012 11:17 Mithhaike wrote:
Man i just got into Act 2 inferno and i just hit the wall. After picking up my barbarian again recently...spent 1mil on upgrades(all that i had) and i can farm Act1 inferno.

Stats as follows
36k HP
7.6k armor
10k dps
648-780resist
23% block chance
391 life on hit

From my own analysis, i need a few things in terms of importance(please correct me if im wrong)
1) More resist(hit 900 ftw)
2) %dmg resist( SOE/Stormshield/Perhaps a ring/amulet)
3) More DPS. 10k is kinda low
4) More block chance.(<25%)
5) More life on hit (1k!)
6) More armor(should come along when i pump my resist)
7) More Vit
8) Movement speed on boots. FK i always cant catch the goblins.

I cant even complete act2 1st quest haha. Yeah i definitely need more gear. Need more gold tho to pump up my stats. Right now im just doing Warden-Butcher runs, average 40k per run.

Plan is to get a SOE(tho im not sure i want to right now. Apparently legendaries will be buffed in next patch, with 2 versions of SOE now...the old & the new. im pretty sure the new will be way better than the old. Same with stormshield. Do not think its good idea to go pure legendaries for now)
I wanna earn 1mil to be able to grab a low rolled Kym(LOH & resist) and a SOE(hopefully <15%).

Anyone has recommendation for gears actually? I actually wish D3 profiles are up, so i can link it.
Im looking for good items for the follow...my wish list for now so to speak: Prices are in NA market

Chest - Rares? Or is there a legendary worth it. Priority to upgrade because im using a 69vit 40allresist blue chest. Pretty weak.
Ring - Which rings are good? What stats should i be looking out for if im grabbing rares instead. %dmg reduction is good on rings right?
Amulet - thinking of kymbo, cheap & decent. Comes with all resist & LOH. Expensive amulet probably Mara's. Or even Blackthorne Medal.
Belt - String of Ears...requirement is <15% (i've seen bargains of 400k for 18%, but i wasnt quick enough.damn)
Shield - Stormshield. However its too fricking expensive! Thinking to grab a Rare with <25% block & all resist(50)

Would appreciate help with my list please. Which cheaper item should i aim for 1st that will have the largest impact on my gear. Not stormshield tho....because its crazy expensive.
Its driving me crazy trying to figure out what to get next haha.


Were not even sure if all the Legendarys are being upgraded. I feel that Stormshield and SoE more an likely aren't going to change very much. Also Jay Wilson said "We want PvP by the end of the year." Was stated by him before he released the game. We don't even know when that will be 1.1....Now 1.02 is done but 1.03 is coming in a few weeks. So we don't even know, at least 1 month away. I wouldn't worry about spending gold. If they do upgrade all the legendarys by quite a bit then we will have something else to work towards .

I had both Kymbo and Maras personally I think Kymbos is better for the life hit as long as you get some melee reduction from other items. Also if you don't mind spending a okay amount to get Firewalkers.




Firewalkers?


Fire Walkers

They have movement speed, melee reduction, and also can get Vit on them from the random modifier.
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
Stormzors
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia41 Posts
May 31 2012 03:12 GMT
#982
Nice helm how much did you pick that up for?

I'm torn wondering if I should be saving up for a nice new weapon with LOH/socket or if I should try for a good SOE.

I asked this in the other simple questions thread but thought I'd ask here too as I could get a more specific answer.

How do you guys do your warden/butcher runs? Do you just start by heading on down to the warden and hope you get 5 stacks before you get to him? Or do you go find some random elites around to get 5 stacks before you head to the warden? Also do you guys skip normal mobs or do you just kill everything you encounter on the way?
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 03:13:33
May 31 2012 03:12 GMT
#983
On May 31 2012 11:51 Coolness53 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 11:47 Mithhaike wrote:
On May 31 2012 11:40 Coolness53 wrote:
On May 31 2012 11:17 Mithhaike wrote:
Man i just got into Act 2 inferno and i just hit the wall. After picking up my barbarian again recently...spent 1mil on upgrades(all that i had) and i can farm Act1 inferno.

Stats as follows
36k HP
7.6k armor
10k dps
648-780resist
23% block chance
391 life on hit

From my own analysis, i need a few things in terms of importance(please correct me if im wrong)
1) More resist(hit 900 ftw)
2) %dmg resist( SOE/Stormshield/Perhaps a ring/amulet)
3) More DPS. 10k is kinda low
4) More block chance.(<25%)
5) More life on hit (1k!)
6) More armor(should come along when i pump my resist)
7) More Vit
8) Movement speed on boots. FK i always cant catch the goblins.

I cant even complete act2 1st quest haha. Yeah i definitely need more gear. Need more gold tho to pump up my stats. Right now im just doing Warden-Butcher runs, average 40k per run.

Plan is to get a SOE(tho im not sure i want to right now. Apparently legendaries will be buffed in next patch, with 2 versions of SOE now...the old & the new. im pretty sure the new will be way better than the old. Same with stormshield. Do not think its good idea to go pure legendaries for now)
I wanna earn 1mil to be able to grab a low rolled Kym(LOH & resist) and a SOE(hopefully <15%).

Anyone has recommendation for gears actually? I actually wish D3 profiles are up, so i can link it.
Im looking for good items for the follow...my wish list for now so to speak: Prices are in NA market

Chest - Rares? Or is there a legendary worth it. Priority to upgrade because im using a 69vit 40allresist blue chest. Pretty weak.
Ring - Which rings are good? What stats should i be looking out for if im grabbing rares instead. %dmg reduction is good on rings right?
Amulet - thinking of kymbo, cheap & decent. Comes with all resist & LOH. Expensive amulet probably Mara's. Or even Blackthorne Medal.
Belt - String of Ears...requirement is <15% (i've seen bargains of 400k for 18%, but i wasnt quick enough.damn)
Shield - Stormshield. However its too fricking expensive! Thinking to grab a Rare with <25% block & all resist(50)

Would appreciate help with my list please. Which cheaper item should i aim for 1st that will have the largest impact on my gear. Not stormshield tho....because its crazy expensive.
Its driving me crazy trying to figure out what to get next haha.


Were not even sure if all the Legendarys are being upgraded. I feel that Stormshield and SoE more an likely aren't going to change very much. Also Jay Wilson said "We want PvP by the end of the year." Was stated by him before he released the game. We don't even know when that will be 1.1....Now 1.02 is done but 1.03 is coming in a few weeks. So we don't even know, at least 1 month away. I wouldn't worry about spending gold. If they do upgrade all the legendarys by quite a bit then we will have something else to work towards .

I had both Kymbo and Maras personally I think Kymbos is better for the life hit as long as you get some melee reduction from other items. Also if you don't mind spending a okay amount to get Firewalkers.




Firewalkers?


Fire Walkers

They have movement speed, melee reduction, and also can get Vit on them from the random modifier.


Ah boots. Hmm seems nice, but doesnt have the all-impt all resist mods. Last on my list to get actually haha.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/boots/#filter=fire walker

On May 31 2012 12:12 Stormzors wrote:
Nice helm how much did you pick that up for?

I'm torn wondering if I should be saving up for a nice new weapon with LOH/socket or if I should try for a good SOE.

I asked this in the other simple questions thread but thought I'd ask here too as I could get a more specific answer.

How do you guys do your warden/butcher runs? Do you just start by heading on down to the warden and hope you get 5 stacks before you get to him? Or do you go find some random elites around to get 5 stacks before you head to the warden? Also do you guys skip normal mobs or do you just kill everything you encounter on the way?


I start quest at the Cursed Hold. By time i go reach Warden i will definitely be at 5stack. There's no need to go up. Just keep walking down will hit 5stacks easily
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Stormzors
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia41 Posts
May 31 2012 03:21 GMT
#984
On May 31 2012 12:12 Mithhaike wrote:
I start quest at the Cursed Hold. By time i go reach Warden i will definitely be at 5stack. There's no need to go up. Just keep walking down will hit 5stacks easily


Yeah thats what I've been doing, although I've found on 1 or 2 occasions sometimes I'll get to the warden with only 4 stacks if I'm unlucky.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 31 2012 03:31 GMT
#985
On May 31 2012 11:17 Mithhaike wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Man i just got into Act 2 inferno and i just hit the wall. After picking up my barbarian again recently...spent 1mil on upgrades(all that i had) and i can farm Act1 inferno.

Stats as follows
36k HP
7.6k armor
10k dps
648-780resist
23% block chance
391 life on hit

From my own analysis, i need a few things in terms of importance(please correct me if im wrong)
1) More resist(hit 900 ftw)
2) %dmg resist( SOE/Stormshield/Perhaps a ring/amulet)
3) More DPS. 10k is kinda low
4) More block chance.(<25%)
5) More life on hit (1k!)
6) More armor(should come along when i pump my resist)
7) More Vit
8) Movement speed on boots. FK i always cant catch the goblins.

I cant even complete act2 1st quest haha. Yeah i definitely need more gear. Need more gold tho to pump up my stats. Right now im just doing Warden-Butcher runs, average 40k per run.

Plan is to get a SOE(tho im not sure i want to right now. Apparently legendaries will be buffed in next patch, with 2 versions of SOE now...the old & the new. im pretty sure the new will be way better than the old. Same with stormshield. Do not think its good idea to go pure legendaries for now)
I wanna earn 1mil to be able to grab a low rolled Kym(LOH & resist) and a SOE(hopefully <15%).

Anyone has recommendation for gears actually? I actually wish D3 profiles are up, so i can link it.
Im looking for good items for the follow...my wish list for now so to speak: Prices are in NA market

Chest - Rares? Or is there a legendary worth it. Priority to upgrade because im using a 69vit 40allresist blue chest. Pretty weak.
Ring - Which rings are good? What stats should i be looking out for if im grabbing rares instead. %dmg reduction is good on rings right?
Amulet - thinking of kymbo, cheap & decent. Comes with all resist & LOH. Expensive amulet probably Mara's. Or even Blackthorne Medal.
Belt - String of Ears...requirement is <15% (i've seen bargains of 400k for 18%, but i wasnt quick enough.damn)
Shield - Stormshield. However its too fricking expensive! Thinking to grab a Rare with <25% block & all resist(50)

Would appreciate help with my list please. Which cheaper item should i aim for 1st that will have the largest impact on my gear. Not stormshield tho....because its crazy expensive.
Its driving me crazy trying to figure out what to get next haha.


You have the right idea.

Natalya's Soul are better boots than Fire Walkers imo. Boots without movement speed is like fail.

Rings and amulets are the most expensive pieces of gear, besides weapons of course. Rare rings with 50+ resist all, strength, vitality, and a socket are usually the best unless you are looking for +life on hit or dmg reduction than Bands of Fallen Heroes, Eternal Union, Bul-Kathos's, Band of Hollow Whispers, and Skull Grasp are good.

Kymbo's Gold is a good inexpensive piece since only Barbs are looking for it. Too many Kymbo's, not enough Barbs.

If you want a good Stormshield for cheap, you'll need to camp AH 24/7 with money on hand. There's been plenty of under 5mil Stormshields with 25%+ block.

Chest, you'll probably just want a rare with resist all, str, and vit. Sockets would be a nice bonus. Goldskin was cheap last time I checked, has resist all and reduce melee dmg. I'm using one right now but it's dirt ugly that needs replacing ><



On May 31 2012 12:12 Stormzors wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Nice helm how much did you pick that up for?

I'm torn wondering if I should be saving up for a nice new weapon with LOH/socket or if I should try for a good SOE.

I asked this in the other simple questions thread but thought I'd ask here too as I could get a more specific answer.

How do you guys do your warden/butcher runs? Do you just start by heading on down to the warden and hope you get 5 stacks before you get to him? Or do you go find some random elites around to get 5 stacks before you head to the warden? Also do you guys skip normal mobs or do you just kill everything you encounter on the way?


I just start quest 9. Going through Halls of Agony level 1 and level 2 usually gives you 3-4 stacks though occasionally I've only came out of there with 1 stack... Once you've free'd the prisoners, you should be at five stacks (sometimes three or four if you're unlucky).

I kill most mobs and open all the weapon racks and chests that are along the way. It's about 80k gold (just vendor blues and pickup, not including gems / tomes / AH quality gear) on a good run, 40k gold on a bad run.
coopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 03:34:11
May 31 2012 03:32 GMT
#986
Just head over to Field of Misery and you can usually find an elite or two. Same with Festering Woods, then you can just tp back through your portal for the boss
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
May 31 2012 04:50 GMT
#987
Holy shit!

I just realised there's a ring Justice Lantern...that gives a guaranteed 11% block chance. With my 23% block shield, that means its 33%. Thats pretty huge jump? If i get a 25% block that is 36% chance. Wow. Definitely a must get ring imo. If you use a Helm of Command(guaranteed 8%block)...it means 19% block + your shield's own block. Hitting 40+ block % is going to be so sick. Best roll Stormshield 32% + 19 = 51% block rate?

Damage that your going to be taking after all your resist/reduction...with another 50% chance to block average 4k damage. This is sick?
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
May 31 2012 05:10 GMT
#988
You guys ever think that gear and items will get to a point where you could farm inferno while dual wielding instead of having to use a shield? I think that's gonna be my ultimate end goal for my barb. To be able to clear all of Inferno while dual wielding.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
May 31 2012 05:14 GMT
#989
lolololol i just bought a SoE with 14ar 14dr with 38 str and 58 vit for 15k
How do you mine minerals?
Stormzors
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia41 Posts
May 31 2012 05:49 GMT
#990
On May 31 2012 14:14 poor newb wrote:
lolololol i just bought a SoE with 14ar 14dr with 38 str and 58 vit for 15k


I hate people like you.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
May 31 2012 05:49 GMT
#991
On May 31 2012 14:49 Stormzors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 14:14 poor newb wrote:
lolololol i just bought a SoE with 14ar 14dr with 38 str and 58 vit for 15k


I hate people like you.


Me too. I want a SOE grr
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 05:55:50
May 31 2012 05:51 GMT
#992
I'm not going to play for a month so I liquidated all of my assets. The reasoning is that prices are going to drop over that month (on similar gear as more is found as well as better gear being found) and then when I come back I can buy better gear. For reference: I have ~5mil after liquidating and I was a barb that was farming the Butcher and unable to get far into Act 2.

Edit: Well, I didn't sell any gems or materials or my magic find gear. I liquidated pretty much all of my valuable pieces of gear and a lot of the other junk.

Edit2: Also, I'm not sure how the RMAH will affect prices. Will be fun to see what happens though!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 31 2012 06:39 GMT
#993
AH just fucked me out of a 5M stormshield.. fucking fuck. What a shitshow.
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Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
May 31 2012 06:45 GMT
#994
So guys, how much should i be looking to expend for a String of Ears? and also, which ring would you guys recommend (specific one or just general stats i should pursue, whichever works out better)?

And i also need a shield upgrade but i cant afford a stormshield, what do i do?

Lastly, a little upgrade on my progress! I've managed to beat magdha on act2 =). I havent tried to go further yet but i feel like i need some gear improv
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 06:59:16
May 31 2012 06:53 GMT
#995
On Warden/Butcher Runs: I've been going to Northern Highlands and checking for the Watch Tower side-dungeon before heading into the Cursed Hold. It's a dungeon with a very tight layout that usually has 3 champion packs and either a resplendent chest or 1-2 more rare packs. Very easy way to pick up stacks whle also getting a nice chunk of loot along the way, which puts less pressure on me to look hard for champs in Halls of Agony, so I can focus on getting to the exit.

On May 31 2012 15:45 Sif_ wrote:
So guys, how much should i be looking to expend for a String of Ears? and also, which ring would you guys recommend (specific one or just general stats i should pursue, whichever works out better)?

Depends how good of a String you want. 300-500k is fine for a lower-end String, but don't be afraid to spend up to 1 mil if you really want a good one that will last a long time.

On May 31 2012 15:45 Sif_ wrote:
And i also need a shield upgrade but i cant afford a stormshield, what do i do?

Just look for rares. Most non-Barbs don't price out block % properly, so if you spend some time hunting, you can get some good high-block shields for cheap. People just overprice Stormshields because they're a well known name (been in the game since Diablo I).

Also, I hate how you can't filter/sort based on intrinsic stats. I don't give a shit about these 10% block shields. Why can't I filter my sort by % block chance?
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Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
May 31 2012 07:28 GMT
#996
Thanks yango! And by a good SoE you mean one with good random properties? Because most of the 300-500k have something stupid like health globe radius pickup or +exp
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 08:03:04
May 31 2012 08:01 GMT
#997
On May 31 2012 16:28 Sif_ wrote:
Thanks yango! And by a good SoE you mean one with good random properties? Because most of the 300-500k have something stupid like health globe radius pickup or +exp

Good random props, high -% melee damage roll, good life on hit roll. Good armor and resist rolls are also nice, but probably slightly less important.

When hunting legendaries, always check the game guide for what ranges the stats can roll in, so you can properly appraise the value of what you're getting.
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Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
May 31 2012 08:03 GMT
#998
On May 31 2012 16:28 Sif_ wrote:
Thanks yango! And by a good SoE you mean one with good random properties? Because most of the 300-500k have something stupid like health globe radius pickup or +exp


good SoE mean one with <15% dmg reduction but sucky random properties
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Robje
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands1044 Posts
May 31 2012 11:35 GMT
#999
Hey guys, I just cleared Act 1 really easily, died a few times on nasty elite combos but nothing was really hard, the butcher died within 2 minutes. Farmed 5 stacks SK a few times, but I wanted to see how Act 2 goes... I die on the normal mobs there... quite a difference lol.
My stats are:
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Resistances are without the shout, I do use that though.

As you can see I don't have a lot of gold right now, I have absolutely no luck with items, pretty much every rare is vendor trash as well.
Any upgrades I should work for besides stormshield? Should I farm warden-butcher a lot more and hope for a lot of items that sell on the AH or are just an upgrade for me?
Should I just get tons of resistance to all on most of my items, together with vitality/life%?


Holy shit ziek leger
axion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Norway110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 11:55:05
May 31 2012 11:51 GMT
#1000
I dont think you have the gear for act2. As it has been discussed over, string of ears might be more cost efficient at first. AR on most of the pieces is nice

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