Barbarian - Builds/Discussion - Page 45

On May 31 2012 03:19 Shikyo wrote:
Well I'm barb too and I kill butcher himself in less than 10 seconds and haven't died to a rare in ages over there, I don't think the problem is with barbarian

On May 31 2012 03:11 Legion710 wrote:
I don't have much time to play lately (if at all), so forgive me if this issue is only related to time, but how do you guys make your money?

At the end of my week off I made it to act II inferno and it was basically a giant wall, so I figured I had to hang around act 1 to farm or something. I've been doing a few warden butcher runs, but that's not going to get me millions anytime soon, and 99.9% of loot is trash. It seems like the only way to progress here is to have a ton of money, but to get it, I need it (gear)...

How do you guys progress? Enlighten me.

I'm sitting around 40-45k HP with 10-11k dps and 70% armor without shout (don't remember brute value). I have about 30k after spending hundreds of K on some "decent" gear, if not bad. I don't understand how I'm supposed to have 10 million gold sitting around.

On May 31 2012 03:25 TheYango wrote:
The problem with Iskatu runs for me is that the mass shadow things kills my FPS, so I die because my Revenges don't come out as fast as I'm pressing the key.

On May 31 2012 03:27 Legion710 wrote:
Right now I have about 200 resist average and a 760 dps 1h. Firechains elite usually destroy the fuck out of me. I know I need more resist.

On May 31 2012 03:37 Shikyo wrote:
Theorycraft time. What do you guys say about an even more DPS-centric build that centralizes itself in singletarget DPS to kill one elite mob at a time, with a build including both Leap Strike and Ignore Pain for a Leap -> Ignore -> Leap combination and a ton of lifesteal? You basically have 12 seconds or so per monster, and then you wait 2min to kill the others and so on. I think you could even farm act 3-4 rares with that with enough DPS(over 100k probably with wrath)

On May 31 2012 03:37 Shikyo wrote:
Theorycraft time. What do you guys say about an even more DPS-centric build that centralizes itself in singletarget DPS to kill one elite mob at a time, with a build including both Leap Strike and Ignore Pain for a Leap -> Ignore -> Leap combination and a ton of lifesteal? You basically have 12 seconds or so per monster, and then you wait 2min to kill the others and so on. I think you could even farm act 3-4 rares with that with enough DPS(over 100k probably with wrath)

On May 31 2012 03:48 CubEdIn wrote:


From the limited time I played, I'd say that you need the avatar for this (wrath of the berserker?). Reason being that apart from the obvious bonuses, you also become invulnerable to freeze/jail/etc.
I played with it a little bit and I found that I can use it in solo to kill really tough mobs using the strat you mentioned above.
Pushing more towards dps I fear would make you slightly more vulnerable to lesser-mobs, which you would have to wait for the cool-downs anyway.
Using my build, I just take out one guy and the others will most likely fall anyway. Very rarely do I need to wait for another cooldown to kill the same mob.

On May 31 2012 03:48 CubEdIn wrote:


From the limited time I played, I'd say that you need the avatar for this (wrath of the berserker?). Reason being that apart from the obvious bonuses, you also become invulnerable to freeze/jail/etc.
I played with it a little bit and I found that I can use it in solo to kill really tough mobs using the strat you mentioned above.
Pushing more towards dps I fear would make you slightly more vulnerable to lesser-mobs, which you would have to wait for the cool-downs anyway.
Using my build, I just take out one guy and the others will most likely fall anyway. Very rarely do I need to wait for another cooldown to kill the same mob.

Edit: short version: I found that wotb works with a tank build (revenge + stomp + shout + ignore), but losing any of these 4 would probably make you run around an awful lot while wotb is on cd.

On May 31 2012 03:44 Legion710 wrote:



The problem is that melee damage is rarely the issue and that leap only gives armor, not resistance. You'd be okay during your IP but get owned otherwise. The two cooldowns don't work together so there needs to be something in between, maybe ground stomp, but then you would have to drop Wotb, unless you want to drop revenge... which, no.

On May 31 2012 03:44 Legion710 wrote:



The problem is that melee damage is rarely the issue and that leap only gives armor, not resistance. You'd be okay during your IP but get owned otherwise. The two cooldowns don't work together so there needs to be something in between, maybe ground stomp, but then you would have to drop Wotb, unless you want to drop revenge... which, no.

On May 31 2012 03:53 Shikyo wrote:

I'm in act 3 inferno without using Revenge even once in Inferno so why is it a "no"?

On May 31 2012 03:56 crms wrote:
Shikyo, I'm sure something like that could work through act 2, but I really don't see how a pure dps barb would survive act3/4 to champion farm. Even general white mobs will 1-2 shot you in these acts unless you have beyond godlike gear. I think pure dps will be viable in the future but I think right now the only reliable, consistent path to 5NV+Boss outside of act2 is mitigation.

On May 31 2012 03:49 Shikyo wrote:
How many mobs would you be facing though so that the 4 sec from leap wouldn't be enough? You definitely want to wait for Ignore Pain to be off cooldown when exploring new areas anyway, right? So you still got the ~12s

On May 31 2012 03:56 crms wrote:
Shikyo, I'm sure something like that could work through act 2, but I really don't see how a pure dps barb would survive act3/4 to champion farm. Even general white mobs will 1-2 shot you in these acts unless you have beyond godlike gear. I think pure dps will be viable in the future but I think right now the only reliable, consistent path to 5NV+Boss outside of act2 is mitigation.