Barbarian - Builds/Discussion - Page 44

On May 31 2012 01:46 skyR wrote:
I have 10k armor / 600 resist / 45k hp, I still 3 shotted in act 3 so good luck to you if you think you can go in there and revenge everything rofl.

On May 31 2012 02:00 kethers wrote:
I don't know if this has any base, but I feel as if Barbarian gear is more expensive than any other class. First because we are the only STR class, it randomized between 1/5 STR 2/5 DEX 2/5 INT (theory only!) there is less chance to drop good STR gear. Also Barbarian is the most gear dependent class, good gear is hard to come by while other classes can get by in the same content with lesser gear. Any upgrade to my barbarian right now goes for a minimum of 2-3M gold =( (not including lucky low-price finds)

On May 31 2012 00:59 Coolness53 wrote:


How much are we talking about here to get the String of Ears?

On May 31 2012 02:25 ffreakk wrote:


2.7 mil i think.

Bought a new sword, so i no longer can afford it.. Question null and void :p

On May 31 2012 02:19 TheYango wrote:

It goes both ways--the demand for Barbarian gear is smaller because there are less Barbarians on the market looking for gear (this is especially true given how many Barbarian players gave up and straight re-rolled at the start of Inferno).

Barbarian is also arguably the class that is most capable of working with gear that gives no primary stats. +Strength is significantly less important than +ResAll and +Vit, particularly early on in Inferno. If you had a piece of gear that gave no primary stat, but gave a lot of Resist/Vit, and also had life on hit/% damage reduction, WD/DH/Wiz wouldn't even look at it, and very few Monks would, whereas that would be a prime gear piece for a Barbarian.

The real issue is just how overall it's harder to get over that gear barrier that you need to pass in A2 at this point. Farming methods in A3/A4 like Aspect runs have flooded the market with high DPS weapons, which means that any weapon drop from A1 is automatically trash, making it harder for a Barbarian that's only A1-capable to farm his way into A2. This affects all classes, it's just harsh for Barbarians in particular because of how high the gear barrier is for us. It's not insurmountable--it just increases the amount of farming you have to do to really make progress.

On May 31 2012 02:40 Coolness53 wrote:
I feel the barb is becoming less popular. I am happy with that. I love the barb and I hope it is the least played class so the gear drops down more .

On May 31 2012 02:42 TheYango wrote:

There are a lot of pieces of Barb gear that you can get at absolute steals because 1) the demand is low, and 2) the lack of Barbs means that people don't know how to value their gear properly. Kymbo's and String of Ears are great examples of gear you can get at bargain prices simply because non-Barbs undervalue the stats on them that are enormously important to us.

That said, Stormshield is still too expensive.

On May 31 2012 02:40 Coolness53 wrote:


I feel the barb is becoming less popular. I am happy with that. I love the barb and I hope it is the least played class so the gear drops down more .

On May 31 2012 02:19 TheYango wrote:

It goes both ways--the demand for Barbarian gear is smaller because there are less Barbarians on the market looking for gear (this is especially true given how many Barbarian players gave up and straight re-rolled at the start of Inferno).

Barbarian is also arguably the class that is most capable of working with gear that gives no primary stats. +Strength is significantly less important than +ResAll and +Vit, particularly early on in Inferno. If you had a piece of gear that gave no primary stat, but gave a lot of Resist/Vit, and also had life on hit/% damage reduction, WD/DH/Wiz wouldn't even look at it, and very few Monks would, whereas that would be a prime gear piece for a Barbarian.

The real issue is just how overall it's harder to get over that gear barrier that you need to pass in A2 at this point. Farming methods in A3/A4 like Aspect runs have flooded the market with high DPS weapons, which means that any weapon drop from A1 is automatically trash, making it harder for a Barbarian that's only A1-capable to farm his way into A2. This affects all classes, it's just harsh for Barbarians in particular because of how high the gear barrier is for us. It's not insurmountable--it just increases the amount of farming you have to do to really make progress.

On May 31 2012 02:52 Shikyo wrote:
So is Lidless Wall the ONLY shield in the entire game that has aspd?

On May 31 2012 02:51 Krowser wrote:
On topic, is there a repository for Builds? I've been using my build since Nightmare and I think it works great but I'd like to try other skills. This thread is more about items than skills.

On May 31 2012 02:56 TheYango wrote:

You mean as a guaranteed property? Yes. I suspect this is why the Weapon Throw/Seismic Slam Diablo solo chose to use it. Though TBH if it rolled as a random property on a better shield, I'd use that instead. It's not like other Barbs would value ASpd that highly on a Stormshield, and plus, isn't there something about the "Attack Speed Increased" non-random property not working correctly on uniques?

On May 31 2012 02:57 Shikyo wrote:

I don't mean as a guaranteed property, I mean at all.

On May 31 2012 03:03 skyR wrote:
Filters are like broken. I know for a fact that some items have x property but you can't select that filter in dropdown menu for the armor category. Eg. String of Ears has damage reduction but that filter doesn't appear under belts. But you can still search for it through All Armor > specify level range > specify dmg reduction filter.

And you can find Stormshields for cheap, there's been dozens of 25%+ block with good stats for under 10mil.

On May 31 2012 03:17 Legion710 wrote:
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I haven't checked, but I think butcher runs take longer for me. I die multiple times to most elite packs. Barb sucks.... lol