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On November 13 2012 01:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:So for all the barb experts. Where do I go from here? http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Infinity-2447/hero/14149971Do I need an OH with high dps after 1.05? What do I look for on a MH? Higher str or crit damage? A new ring is my first priority, but what's next? Appreciate any help. Budget is around 100-200 mil.
You don't NEED a high dps off hand but it is more useful to have one after the patch to get a little extra dps from ww and bash. Your main damage dealer rtlw hasn't changed (in regards to off hand dps) so it's certainly not required. I'd get a simple pair of rare pants with as much str and vit as you can afford (2 sockets) with 75+ all res or depth diggers with similar stats. See how 6% ls feels after you make upgrades and up your dps. If that isn't enough you can always use bloodthirst passive instead of brawler. Both your rings could use replacing. Your mainhand is ok, it could be upgraded ofc but it's not awful. You need more strength overall - how you get it is up to you but your ik belt and helm can both by upgraded by 50-75 strength each pretty cheaply.
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What MP do you guys farm xp on? Build changes at all?
I went from 34-40 yesterday but I wasn't happy about the speed of the runs. I felt like MP3 was the sweet spot for killing things fast and keeping fury up. This was using a standard ww set up. Is there an alternative farming build for MP0 or 1 that lets you just blow through everything faster?
My run for reference:
- Keeps 2
- Fields of Slaughter
- Crater 1
- Tower 1
- Crater 2
- Core
- Azmo
- Stonefort (keywarden)
As a side note, if you aren't doing kw at the end of your Act 3 runs, start now. I found keys on MP3 on over half of my runs for just a few extra minutes of my time. Yes, that 'evidence' is anecdotal, but while you have 5 stacks in Act 3, it seems worth the small time investment to try your luck. Might not be worth it on lower MP but I'm not sure - stonefort isn't terrible mob density for xp anyway.
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Soo
I recently started to play again cause a friend of mine gave me some gear which made the game somewhat fun again.
I'm playin mostly MP +2 or MP +3 to level and farm a bit of gold now. It's just depressing that i don't make any damage whatsoever and i can't even kill the little thievy guys in time before they warp away which makes it even more depressing.
The only thing thats going for me now that it's quite difficult to kill me. But that is only useful when i play with friends who actually do damage.
What can i do to make some damage?
Which part of my gear needs upgrading the most?
How much money do i need to get me somewhat decent, so i can start soloing again, prefereably in MP +4 and higher?
Also any advice, related to my questions or otherwise is greatly appreciated
My Hero
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On November 13 2012 04:05 Harris1st wrote:Soo I recently started to play again cause a friend of mine gave me some gear which made the game somewhat fun again. I'm playin mostly MP +2 or MP +3 to level and farm a bit of gold now. It's just depressing that i don't make any damage whatsoever and i can't even kill the little thievy guys in time before they warp away which makes it even more depressing. The only thing thats going for me now that it's quite difficult to kill me. But that is only useful when i play with friends who actually do damage. What can i do to make some damage? Which part of my gear needs upgrading the most? How much money do i need to get me somewhat decent, so i can start soloing again, prefereably in MP +4 and higher? Also any advice, related to my questions or otherwise is greatly appreciated My Hero
To farm MP4 and below you can safely give up 200 AR and 5-10k HP. You don't need very high HP to survive as long as you do sufficient dmg with enough life steal. At these levels you should be more concerned with efficiency than survivability.
For starters I'd copy a typical WW build for faster farming.
Get a 1k+ dps weapon with socket, and drop the shield for Life steal + crit dmg + socket sword/dagger.
Get + crit chance on all your jewelries, with attack speed / crit dmg if you have money.
Shoulders with 200+ str and 70+ AR or Vit is pretty cheap.
You can get andariel's with low fire dmg or IK helm for the additional cc, or any rare str+cc+socket helm with either AR or Vit, similar combinations applies to bracers minus the socket.
Boots should always have 12% movespeed.
In my experience, you are always more limited by the dps rather than survivability when farming below MP7 since monster hp scales so much higher compared to dmg at higher MPs.
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On November 11 2012 13:17 Stratos.FEAR wrote:need a gear check: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/StratosFEAR-1891/hero/11070811I can farm mp5 for keys with ease and mp4 for ubers. Anything higher either kills me or takes too long to kill (enrage timers for ZK + siege ubers) I don't have a lot of gold right now but what would be the cheapest to upgrade slot that i could see the most results with? and if possible what specifically should be in that slot in terms of stats
bumping because i now have roughly 45 mil to spend on upgrades
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On November 13 2012 11:02 Stratos.FEAR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 13:17 Stratos.FEAR wrote:need a gear check: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/StratosFEAR-1891/hero/11070811I can farm mp5 for keys with ease and mp4 for ubers. Anything higher either kills me or takes too long to kill (enrage timers for ZK + siege ubers) I don't have a lot of gold right now but what would be the cheapest to upgrade slot that i could see the most results with? and if possible what specifically should be in that slot in terms of stats bumping because i now have roughly 45 mil to spend on upgrades
It's mostly pretty good. Your AR might be a hair low. Get some crit lacunis. Lifesteal on belt, you might not even need it but its almost too good not to have. You can get an ik belt if you want without vit if you choose (you can take the hp hit). I'd get a mace or axe for your mainhand, you shouldnt have problems with fury so take advantage of the 10% cc from passive. Look for high dps and a socket + however much else you want to spend for str or cd and such. Your off hand is soo good but will drag your character sheet dps down some - it's not a priority to upgrade. If you can live without the firewalkers get some str, vit, 12% ms, and 70+ all res boots.
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hey guys i need advice. i have 2 sets of gear. one with 40k damage but with full magic find(700resist) and one with 70k damage without magic find(400 resist, high str). which set should i use to farm gear or in general? i farm act 0/1 with my magic find set currently. thanks
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Do you want to stick with your build or go for a ww build? And what is your budget?
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I kinda like hota was never good at ww build :/ only have like 2 mil atm ;_;
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On November 13 2012 12:45 Levistus wrote:
hey guys i need advice. i have 2 sets of gear. one with 40k damage but with full magic find(700resist) and one with 70k damage without magic find(400 resist, high str). which set should i use to farm gear or in general? i farm act 0/1 with my magic find set currently. thanks
depends on the speed you clear them at really, also i think most people farm for the sake of raising paragon levels because that benefits you more in the long run so you probably want two hell fires one for yourself and one for your follower
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On November 13 2012 12:44 Charger wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:02 Stratos.FEAR wrote:On November 11 2012 13:17 Stratos.FEAR wrote:need a gear check: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/StratosFEAR-1891/hero/11070811I can farm mp5 for keys with ease and mp4 for ubers. Anything higher either kills me or takes too long to kill (enrage timers for ZK + siege ubers) I don't have a lot of gold right now but what would be the cheapest to upgrade slot that i could see the most results with? and if possible what specifically should be in that slot in terms of stats bumping because i now have roughly 45 mil to spend on upgrades It's mostly pretty good. Your AR might be a hair low. Get some crit lacunis. Lifesteal on belt, you might not even need it but its almost too good not to have. You can get an ik belt if you want without vit if you choose (you can take the hp hit). I'd get a mace or axe for your mainhand, you shouldnt have problems with fury so take advantage of the 10% cc from passive. Look for high dps and a socket + however much else you want to spend for str or cd and such. Your off hand is soo good but will drag your character sheet dps down some - it's not a priority to upgrade. If you can live without the firewalkers get some str, vit, 12% ms, and 70+ all res boots.
good advice on the weapon lol, spent 25 mil on an echoing fury (min fear chance!) and boosted dps up to 81k unbuffed
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On November 13 2012 12:58 TomatoShark wrote:
I kinda like hota was never good at ww build :/ only have like 2 mil atm ;_;
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Royal-1465/hero/117240
Here's a HotA build that I made. I farm keys on mp8 with no problem at all, haven't tried mp9-10 yet because I came up with it just recently. I crit almost every hit ranging from 300k-550k damage at 1.93 attack speed. Dealing that much damage with 6% ls keeps me alive really well.
Don't know if you can afford this kind of gear but that is my thought process in how I built him.
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hi. does attack speed affect ww dps? why do most high dps barbs use echoing fury?
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hi!
I just reached lvl 60 with barb and this is the build i'm going for: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#bhVXkP!ZVd!YbZacZ
it focuses on high armor/resistance + LoH and thorns, the idea is to get hit a lot but for low damage and return the damage with thorns/revenge while regaining life with LoH/bloodthirst/blood funnel
I also have shoulders with 26% to use fan of knives when hit
what do you think?
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On November 13 2012 02:20 Charger wrote:What MP do you guys farm xp on? Build changes at all? I went from 34-40 yesterday but I wasn't happy about the speed of the runs. I felt like MP3 was the sweet spot for killing things fast and keeping fury up. This was using a standard ww set up. Is there an alternative farming build for MP0 or 1 that lets you just blow through everything faster? + Show Spoiler +My run for reference:
- Keeps 2
- Fields of Slaughter
- Crater 1
- Tower 1
- Crater 2
- Core
- Azmo
- Stonefort (keywarden)
As a side note, if you aren't doing kw at the end of your Act 3 runs, start now. I found keys on MP3 on over half of my runs for just a few extra minutes of my time. Yes, that 'evidence' is anecdotal, but while you have 5 stacks in Act 3, it seems worth the small time investment to try your luck. Might not be worth it on lower MP but I'm not sure - stonefort isn't terrible mob density for xp anyway .
Holy shit, 6 MP levels in one day. Grats.  That's about ~8hrs I think?
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On November 13 2012 19:23 Levistus wrote:
hi. does attack speed affect ww dps? why do most high dps barbs use echoing fury?
Yes, it does. Here is a thread on the official bnet forums, where somebody worked out the break points.
My guess is that echoing fury is pretty good because a) it has high dps and is a mace b) has high attack speed (more than an axe). As more sprint tornado ticks means also more fury generated per tornado higher attack speed is helpful for keeping wrath up. Some people find the 'fear on hit'-effect annoying though.
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On November 14 2012 01:57 incinerate_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 19:23 Levistus wrote:
hi. does attack speed affect ww dps? why do most high dps barbs use echoing fury? Yes, it does. Here is a thread on the official bnet forums, where somebody worked out the break points. My guess is that echoing fury is pretty good because a) it has high dps and is a mace b) has high attack speed (more than an axe). As more sprint tornado ticks means also more fury generated per tornado higher attack speed is helpful for keeping wrath up. Some people find the 'fear on hit'-effect annoying though.
If people use echoing fury just buy a nice cold SoJ to keep them frozen
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On November 14 2012 00:41 bruteMax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 02:20 Charger wrote:What MP do you guys farm xp on? Build changes at all? I went from 34-40 yesterday but I wasn't happy about the speed of the runs. I felt like MP3 was the sweet spot for killing things fast and keeping fury up. This was using a standard ww set up. Is there an alternative farming build for MP0 or 1 that lets you just blow through everything faster? + Show Spoiler +My run for reference:
- Keeps 2
- Fields of Slaughter
- Crater 1
- Tower 1
- Crater 2
- Core
- Azmo
- Stonefort (keywarden)
As a side note, if you aren't doing kw at the end of your Act 3 runs, start now. I found keys on MP3 on over half of my runs for just a few extra minutes of my time. Yes, that 'evidence' is anecdotal, but while you have 5 stacks in Act 3, it seems worth the small time investment to try your luck. Might not be worth it on lower MP but I'm not sure - stonefort isn't terrible mob density for xp anyway . Holy shit, 6 MP levels in one day. Grats. That's about ~8hrs I think?
Not sure of the time it took to be honest. Between doing ubers a few times, watching football/tv, and other normal daily stuff I probably did actual xp farming for less than 8 hours. 31% ruby and hellfire ring certainly speed up the process. I actually have cain's set too and I may switch to a fury gen build and run Act 3 MP0 for greater xp gain.
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zaden-1262/hero/5418523
Hi. So I just came back to the game after a little hiatus. Decided to play my barb instead of my DH. Was fortunate enough to have a friend help me out with an IK set, I sold off a lot of my DH stuff and have got myself a nice little budget barb now, but I'm confused on where I should upgrade next, specifically weapon.
Anyways, my plan right now is to maximize my paragon level to at least the ~50 range before I start really focusing on upgrades. I plan on farming mp0-1 alkazier runs. I've been doing mp5 keywardens to farm keys, which I do at reasonable pace to hopefully get a good hellfire ring. I have some questions though.
- I have about 40 million gold right now. Which slots would be my best bang for the buck? I think my offhand is ok, but my MH definitely could be better. I've also been thinking of getting the 31% xp helm and a 100% CD emerald in my offhand.
- Is it worth farming keys and get a carry on mp8+ to get hellfire rings or are they not worth it?
Thanks for reading!
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