EPTive have seen more than one high-end barb with an EF offhand.
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
ive have seen more than one high-end barb with an EF offhand. | ||
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crisiscore
Australia72 Posts
Yes there are some really sweet drool barbs who use a life steal variant of the EF as their offhand. | ||
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zylog
Canada943 Posts
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
 MP1 is pretty easy but on MP2 I die too much. I want to be able to play MP2-MP3 for keyfarming. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Arevall-2373/hero/10473524 | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On November 07 2012 20:59 Arevall wrote: Can anyone give me advice on what items to improve on my barbarian? I got back to D3 about a week ago and just sold an item for 5m so that's what I have to spend MP1 is pretty easy but on MP2 I die too much. I want to be able to play MP2-MP3 for keyfarming. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Arevall-2373/hero/10473524 you desperately need more life and more LoH. with such a low damage, some 4-5% lifesteal without any LoH wont cut it. i cant give any specific advice on items because they all can be improved pretty easily and should be replaced.  | ||
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Glacierz
United States1244 Posts
On November 07 2012 07:37 Charger wrote: Get some IK gloves and drop the unforgiving passive for bloodthirst and swap battle rage for leap. Get a high damage axe or mace for your main hand weapon. All you really should care about is dps and a socket for a crit damage gem. If you can find one with natural crit and high damage then great but look around 1200 dps + socket imo. Off hand - get a sword or dagger with natural crit (80+), life steal, and a socket. DPS isn't nearly as important here but get what you can. Get some lacuni's. Your shoulders need higher strength (str rolls up to 300 on shoulders) and your jewelry could use some work. Ideally you want cc, cd, and as on all of them but that's unrealistic, even for 150m but try get 2 of the three on each piece while still getting the str and vit you want. edit - My profile is linked about the middle of this page if you want a basic idea of what I'm talking about. I farm keys on MP7 easily and can do ubers on 7-9 with little trouble. Maghda can be a bitch with her butterflies on some of the higher MP lvls but that goes for everyone I think lol. Took your advice and got a new mh, shoulders, and IK gloves. Switching to Lacuni is pretty expensive, something like yours cost at least 40-50m on AH (there aren't that many with AR>70). I guess the extra ASPD and MS are really worth the money? Still looking for an offhand with natural crit, socket, and life steal. Haven't done the math here yet, would I lose a lot of dmg when not in WW if the off hand dps is too low? I'm planning on wearing a HellFire ring, so not going to worry too much about the rings just yet. | ||
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antihobo
Canada121 Posts
On November 07 2012 20:59 Arevall wrote: Can anyone give me advice on what items to improve on my barbarian? I got back to D3 about a week ago and just sold an item for 5m so that's what I have to spend MP1 is pretty easy but on MP2 I die too much. I want to be able to play MP2-MP3 for keyfarming. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Arevall-2373/hero/10473524 You need all resistances on your shoulders. | ||
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
On November 08 2012 01:39 antihobo wrote: You need all resistances on your shoulders. I will look out for a pair of shoulders. Just damn expensive for str+vit+allres  Thanks for the help guys. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On November 07 2012 23:47 Glacierz wrote: Took your advice and got a new mh, shoulders, and IK gloves. Switching to Lacuni is pretty expensive, something like yours cost at least 40-50m on AH (there aren't that many with AR>70). I guess the extra ASPD and MS are really worth the money? Still looking for an offhand with natural crit, socket, and life steal. Haven't done the math here yet, would I lose a lot of dmg when not in WW if the off hand dps is too low? I'm planning on wearing a HellFire ring, so not going to worry too much about the rings just yet. If I had the luxury of not getting all res on my lacuni's I would certainly get crit instead. Crit+all res lacuni's are insanely expensive (obviously). I got lucky and sniped my pair for just 1.5m :p The AS and MS are definitely worth it - it helps your tornados tick faster and ms helps you keep WotB up longer and decreases farming times. Bash (or your fury generator of choice) and ww will use your off hand dps so it matters for that. However your main damage dealer is rltw tornados that mainly (or fully, can't remember) just use the stats on your off hand and the dps of your mainhand. You don't NEED a high dps off hand to make a ww barb work but it helps for bash and makes your ww do more damage. A low dps off hand will affect your character sheet damage as well. That's not important except for personal goals or epeen but it's importance varies from person to person. | ||
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Glacierz
United States1244 Posts
On November 08 2012 04:12 Charger wrote: If I had the luxury of not getting all res on my lacuni's I would certainly get crit instead. Crit+all res lacuni's are insanely expensive (obviously). I got lucky and sniped my pair for just 1.5m :p The AS and MS are definitely worth it - it helps your tornados tick faster and ms helps you keep WotB up longer and decreases farming times. Bash (or your fury generator of choice) and ww will use your off hand dps so it matters for that. However your main damage dealer is rltw tornados that mainly (or fully, can't remember) just use the stats on your off hand and the dps of your mainhand. You don't NEED a high dps off hand to make a ww barb work but it helps for bash and makes your ww do more damage. A low dps off hand will affect your character sheet damage as well. That's not important except for personal goals or epeen but it's importance varies from person to person. Lol I'd be happy to take that off you for 10x the cost when you no longer need it =). There's the option of higher Vitality + AR without STR Lacuni that seems to be cheaper, maybe I will just drop the measly <80 str and go for a tankier one. I still feel like my overall Str bonus is not as high, mostly due to the low rolls on IK chest and boots... Spending the rest of my money will probably not going put me over 80k character sheet dps, just seems a bit weak compared to my 200k DH which shared a similar cost to spec up. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On November 08 2012 06:11 Glacierz wrote: Lol I'd be happy to take that off you for 10x the cost when you no longer need it =). There's the option of higher Vitality + AR without STR Lacuni that seems to be cheaper, maybe I will just drop the measly <80 str and go for a tankier one. I still feel like my overall Str bonus is not as high, mostly due to the low rolls on IK chest and boots... Spending the rest of my money will probably not going put me over 80k character sheet dps, just seems a bit weak compared to my 200k DH which shared a similar cost to spec up. If you want, post or pm me when your armory updates again with the stuff you already bought and how much gold you have remaining and maybe we can get to your goal. | ||
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Glacierz
United States1244 Posts
On November 08 2012 06:21 Charger wrote: If you want, post or pm me when your armory updates again with the stuff you already bought and how much gold you have remaining and maybe we can get to your goal. Purchase list so far: 1: IK gloves with about 260str/80 vit with bonus armor, probably overpaid but I really wanted a high str roll since the rest of the slots are lacking str. 2. The shoulders now have about 250 str as well, with 70+ AR and vita. 3. Mainhand is currently 1150ish dps axe with 136 vit and socketed for 90% CD. 4. I moved my old 880 dps LoH weapon to the Off hand for now with the 80% CD gem. Current char sheet DPS reads over 65k, still missing bracers, offhand, and did not touch my jewelry. I got about 120m left after selling a bunch more stuff, but need to leave some to upgrade my gems for more str... It's so hard to spec a barb since you need AR on almost every piece of gear. My DH tanks just fine with Gloom with only half the AR and armor while doing 3x the dmg... | ||
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
Your bracers are easily upgradeable. Same stats + 6% crit shouldn't be too hard to find for a few mil, and worse case you can drop 10-20 ar I'd say your OH isn't too hard to upgrade either. maybe like 10-20 mil for a dagger with 4 or 5 desirable stats (socket/crd/str/loh/ls). you'd probably have to drop some oh dps though, but if you get like 80 more crd out of it, it'll boost both your displayed dps and your actual dps by quite a bit | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hunts-1629/hero/13785460 suggestions on what to upgrade next when i get more gold? Is it worth trying to keep some MF on pieces? Or does it get too much in the way of actual killing stats? | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:31 hunts wrote: So i finally gave in and went for the WW build, having been traditional sword and board before. Threw down almost all my gold on a skorn, its actually been really fun. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hunts-1629/hero/13785460 suggestions on what to upgrade next when i get more gold? Is it worth trying to keep some MF on pieces? Or does it get too much in the way of actual killing stats? I would suggest some more attack speed, especially for a 2 hander ww barb. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:45 Charger wrote: I would suggest some more attack speed, especially for a 2 hander ww barb. Think it would be worth it to get some lacuni prowlers and give up the crit+ either the all res or the MF and some str that my current ones have? I'm down to about 7m after buying that skorn and mempo lol | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On November 08 2012 12:06 hunts wrote: Think it would be worth it to get some lacuni prowlers and give up the crit+ either the all res or the MF and some str that my current ones have? I'm down to about 7m after buying that skorn and mempo lol Lacuni's are great. But your crit is already low and I'm not sure if you could dump that 39 all res either so I think your gold is better spent elsewhere for the time being personally. You have all res on all your jewelry which makes it tough to replace them with more damage modifiers (crit chance, crit damage, attack speed) which is usually what you want your jewelry to focus on. A long term plan would be to increase your all res on your armor pieces to eventually get that off most of your jewelry. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On November 08 2012 13:07 hunts wrote: Think I should replace the belt with a similar one but AR instead of life leech, then replace bracers with lacunis maybe? I Ended up replacing a lot of my resist gear with higher dps/mf gear when I was using a shield since I took so little damage, now it's kinda biting me in the ass. Don't drop the lifesteal on the belt. Try adding some all res to your belt and your boots. You can drop down to 38k or so hp and still be ok if you have to. You might lose some dps but you can make up for it later on your jewelry. | ||
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