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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
November 05 2012 17:13 GMT
#3521
On November 06 2012 02:09 blagoonga123 wrote:
Also I guess I'll try one of those gear checks too
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/rKn-1364/hero/15392622

I don't know what to buy next


What's your budget?
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
November 05 2012 17:35 GMT
#3522
On November 06 2012 01:34 Krowser wrote:
For monster level 8-10, how are people managing it? Is it normal to take a long time to kill anything?


Everyone takes forever to kill such high mp, that's why no one bothers to ever farm it. It's only useful for keys/ubers.
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
November 05 2012 17:44 GMT
#3523
On November 06 2012 02:13 Charger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 02:09 blagoonga123 wrote:
Also I guess I'll try one of those gear checks too
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/rKn-1364/hero/15392622

I don't know what to buy next


What's your budget?

something in the 10-50m range. i only have about 10m right now
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 18:02:52
November 05 2012 18:02 GMT
#3524
On November 06 2012 02:44 blagoonga123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 02:13 Charger wrote:
On November 06 2012 02:09 blagoonga123 wrote:
Also I guess I'll try one of those gear checks too
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/rKn-1364/hero/15392622

I don't know what to buy next


What's your budget?

something in the 10-50m range. i only have about 10m right now

your right ring is really not that great, you should be able to replace it for 10-20M imho.

other than that, your gear seems quite well-rounded. a mh with more dps would be nice, but on the other hand, it has nice cd and str. the high cd on your weapons compensates for the lack thereof on your other gear. so if you replace your mh with a higher dps one, you would probably have to get more cd on your other gear to keep the balance. your amu and/or the new right ring could cover that.

your boots and armor can also be upgraded rather easily, but imho the right ring has priority.
a hellfire ring with more damage mods (as, cc, cd) would be nice aswell, but it will probably take a long time until you roll one that is stronger than your current one...
btw i really like your offhand, despite its low dps.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
November 05 2012 19:10 GMT
#3525
Thanks! ok, so ring first, then probably chest. Man are my boots really that weak? I spent like 35m on them in patch 1.0.4 :/
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
November 06 2012 05:01 GMT
#3526
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149

Thinking of getting an echoing fury but that fear looks so annoying. Thoughts on that and/or other gear needs? Only have around 90m for upgrades.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
iLLusive
Profile Joined March 2010
United States274 Posts
November 06 2012 05:11 GMT
#3527
Need some exerienced help in switching to a DPS build with a couple solid build choices and point in right items I NEED to adjust to be able to clear faster. Here is where I am at currently. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/iLLusive-1834/hero/20808608
The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
November 06 2012 14:58 GMT
#3528
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 15:02:29
November 06 2012 15:02 GMT
#3529
On November 06 2012 23:58 Inori wrote:
Could anyone link to profiles with (near) BiS gear? Or ideally is there some-kind of site like sc2ranks?


www.diabloprogress.com
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
November 06 2012 15:03 GMT
#3530
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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
November 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3531
On November 06 2012 04:10 blagoonga123 wrote:
Thanks! ok, so ring first, then probably chest. Man are my boots really that weak? I spent like 35m on them in patch 1.0.4 :/

Don't drop the IK boots, they're not easy to upgrade considering your current gear. You only have 2 pieces of the IK set, dropping the boots means losing 130 AR (which obviously you can't make up from just 1 pair of boots).

On November 06 2012 14:01 Charger wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149

Thinking of getting an echoing fury but that fear looks so annoying. Thoughts on that and/or other gear needs? Only have around 90m for upgrades.

You need to be careful replacing your mainhand, that 116 vit matters a lot. I would probably try to include some vit on other pieces first before looking to upgrade the mainhand (eg: pants since they can have up to 300 vit).
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
November 06 2012 19:28 GMT
#3532
On November 07 2012 04:09 ArC_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 04:10 blagoonga123 wrote:
Thanks! ok, so ring first, then probably chest. Man are my boots really that weak? I spent like 35m on them in patch 1.0.4 :/

Don't drop the IK boots, they're not easy to upgrade considering your current gear. You only have 2 pieces of the IK set, dropping the boots means losing 130 AR (which obviously you can't make up from just 1 pair of boots).

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 14:01 Charger wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149

Thinking of getting an echoing fury but that fear looks so annoying. Thoughts on that and/or other gear needs? Only have around 90m for upgrades.

You need to be careful replacing your mainhand, that 116 vit matters a lot. I would probably try to include some vit on other pieces first before looking to upgrade the mainhand (eg: pants since they can have up to 300 vit).


Yeah I am concerned about that as well. Same issue with my ammy. I got a good deal on it and it carries a lot of my vit so I was able to skimp elsewhere but now I can't take that out cause my hp takes too big of a hit.

I think I can make up the 100 on weapon without too much issue but I just don't know if echoing fury's are worth it with the fear attribute - I haven't used one yet but making every enemy act like those shaman casters in Act 3 that run away constantly seems like a horrible idea.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
November 06 2012 22:07 GMT
#3533
my friend had an echoing fury for a while and i hated running with him because of that fucking fear

it really is more annoying than anything imo. i felt like it was actually a decrease in dps too because when one monster runs away from a pack of 3 that's like a 33% decrease to both of us.
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 06 2012 22:13 GMT
#3534
well, i think echoing fury are more suitable for high-end barbs that pretty much one-hit everything in lower MPs. in that case, the fear doesnt hurt too much. equivalently, it hurts less if your survivability is good enough to allow the use of rend.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
November 06 2012 22:20 GMT
#3535
In the process of moving towards more dmg without losing survivability. Looking for some tips on what to buy (esp. weapons). Budget is around 150m:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3184969

The goal is to dish out good DPS in ubers mp 6+ without dying.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 22:41:43
November 06 2012 22:37 GMT
#3536
On November 07 2012 07:20 Glacierz wrote:
In the process of moving towards more dmg without losing survivability. Looking for some tips on what to buy (esp. weapons). Budget is around 150m:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3184969

The goal is to dish out good DPS in ubers mp 6+ without dying.


Get some IK gloves and drop the unforgiving passive for bloodthirst and swap battle rage for leap. Get a high damage axe or mace for your main hand weapon. All you really should care about is dps and a socket for a crit damage gem. If you can find one with natural crit and high damage then great but look around 1200 dps + socket imo. Off hand - get a sword or dagger with natural crit (80+), life steal, and a socket. DPS isn't nearly as important here but get what you can. Get some lacuni's. Your shoulders need higher strength (str rolls up to 300 on shoulders) and your jewelry could use some work. Ideally you want cc, cd, and as on all of them but that's unrealistic, even for 150m but try get 2 of the three on each piece while still getting the str and vit you want.

edit - My profile is linked about the middle of this page if you want a basic idea of what I'm talking about. I farm keys on MP7 easily and can do ubers on 7-9 with little trouble. Maghda can be a bitch with her butterflies on some of the higher MP lvls but that goes for everyone I think lol.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
November 06 2012 22:52 GMT
#3537
On November 07 2012 07:07 blagoonga123 wrote:
my friend had an echoing fury for a while and i hated running with him because of that fucking fear

it really is more annoying than anything imo. i felt like it was actually a decrease in dps too because when one monster runs away from a pack of 3 that's like a 33% decrease to both of us.


tell your friend to get a cold SoJ :D
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
November 06 2012 22:58 GMT
#3538
On November 07 2012 07:20 Glacierz wrote:
In the process of moving towards more dmg without losing survivability. Looking for some tips on what to buy (esp. weapons). Budget is around 150m:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3184969

The goal is to dish out good DPS in ubers mp 6+ without dying.


wow first priority would be those shoulders tbh they're pretty terrible
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
November 06 2012 23:15 GMT
#3539
On November 07 2012 07:13 Black Gun wrote:
well, i think echoing fury are more suitable for high-end barbs that pretty much one-hit everything in lower MPs. in that case, the fear doesnt hurt too much. equivalently, it hurts less if your survivability is good enough to allow the use of rend.

Yep, basically trash mobs die in 1 pass through and against elites you have options of either rend with mutilate or in my case I like using hota and bash with clobber. The fear is quite annoying in groups that don't have CM wizards.
crisiscore
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia72 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 03:34:37
November 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#3540
I have no problems with EF on say MP7-8 and below with normal WW spec, and no problems at all with hybrid Throw+WW spec on all MP.
Ranged elites are still ranged elites regardless of EF (blood clan occullists, firemages and sucubbi) rrrooaaarwwwwr !!!
You will notice it on Melee elites if you don't have the DPS to down them fairly quickly and efficiently.
On most parts of the alkaizer routes where i mainly farm the narrow sections are fine with EF, open spaces such as fields of slaughter you will notice it heaps especially with fast affix mobs such as fast demonic tremors.

But i use the hybrid weapon throw + ww spec so the fear on EF doesn't bother me at all as I can use weapon throw for single target high DPS and for when they fear and run.

There are other ways to mitigate the fear if it bothers you (the level of bother will vary from people to people depending on their level of gear):
- use cold SOJ, as EF is black weapon the cold damage slow effect works really well. Basically the mob is feared from EF and slowed from cold Stone of Jordan all the while your doing DPS and not actually taking any damage as they're feared.
- use EF on offhand, this way it does not fear proc from tornadoes, their is a small amount of fear however when you WW as it rotates between mainhand and offhand. You will lose the bonus + attack speed from EF as your offhand and lose paper DPS but it will reduce the fear procs significantly
- Use weapon throw hybrid spec if you are geared enough to not have to use a defensive passive as your third so you can use No Escape passive (refer my profile if you don't know the spec)

I still regard the EF as best DPS BiS mainhand regardless of fear, if you are a throw barb, the EF fear is perfect for you.

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Cloud-6788/hero/24522688
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/cloud-6788/Barbess/24522688

If you are still concerned regarding fear on EF, try to get around to watching KingKongor's stream, he uses a really well rolled echo fury and you can see for yourself on his stream the effects of the fear.
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