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Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 08:46:46
November 08 2012 08:17 GMT
#3561
On November 07 2012 21:17 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 20:59 Arevall wrote:
Can anyone give me advice on what items to improve on my barbarian? I got back to D3 about a week ago and just sold an item for 5m so that's what I have to spend

MP1 is pretty easy but on MP2 I die too much. I want to be able to play MP2-MP3 for keyfarming.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Arevall-2373/hero/10473524

you desperately need more life and more LoH. with such a low damage, some 4-5% lifesteal without any LoH wont cut it.

i cant give any specific advice on items because they all can be improved pretty easily and should be replaced.


Got a offhand with some LoH and it makes ton of difference, also put on a bit more vit at the expense of a little DPS.

I can do MP2 without any troubles now. Also have a bow on AH I thought was worthless for 3 m with 16 hours left, so then I can spend some on upgrades, woho.

Now I'm gonna play around a bit with a off-hand dagger and increased attack speed ring and bracers though ^^.
rawb
Profile Joined September 2010
United States252 Posts
November 08 2012 15:04 GMT
#3562
A friend of mine convinced me to come back to D3, and told me he'd run me through MP10 act 3 to power level me.

Made this guy yesterday, sold everything from my demon hunter and decked him out. Now I'm getting to the point where i'm going to have an income from farming, wondering what to upgrade next.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rob-1253/hero/28526205

Thoughts? I really don't want to switch to 2H. Love how this character feels compared to my DH.
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
November 08 2012 15:07 GMT
#3563
Looks pretty good overall. The only thing you "need" is 24% runspeed; I'd recommend a set of Lacuni's instead of your current bracers. Glad you're having fun!
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
November 08 2012 20:11 GMT
#3564
Are there any other builds besides WW/Perma-wrath? I'm using my own brand of Hammer but playing pubs, it seems every barb and their grand mother is WWing around.
D3 and Pho, the way to go. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340709
jESUIT
Profile Joined October 2012
United States151 Posts
November 09 2012 09:07 GMT
#3565
On November 09 2012 05:11 Krowser wrote:
Are there any other builds besides WW/Perma-wrath? I'm using my own brand of Hammer but playing pubs, it seems every barb and their grand mother is WWing around.


HoTA is another build, the reason most barbs are WWing around is because it's the most effective build...Just like for Wizard MP1-4 archon is the most effective farming build. Most people just want to farm / paragon level and the fastest way to do this...on ANY mp level is...WWing around lol. =/ It's not that there aren't other builds they are just far inferior when it comes to effectiveness
200k dps CM/WW Wiz https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 // GM Protoss
jESUIT
Profile Joined October 2012
United States151 Posts
November 09 2012 09:14 GMT
#3566
On November 09 2012 00:04 rawb wrote:
A friend of mine convinced me to come back to D3, and told me he'd run me through MP10 act 3 to power level me.

Made this guy yesterday, sold everything from my demon hunter and decked him out. Now I'm getting to the point where i'm going to have an income from farming, wondering what to upgrade next.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rob-1253/hero/28526205

Thoughts? I really don't want to switch to 2H. Love how this character feels compared to my DH.


Nothing says you have to go 2H lol. Cheapest thing to upgrade would be your gems in your gear..but in my opinion your lacking most in CC you could take a huge upgrade on ur ammy for semi cheap. You would lose some vit but gain dps.
200k dps CM/WW Wiz https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 // GM Protoss
FConnectionUK *
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
November 09 2012 17:28 GMT
#3567
Hi, I have question for all the Skorn user.
How do you keep up with maintaining Fury/WOTB?
It seems impossible to keep up WOTB in ubers and it's proving to be a pain in the neck.

Here is my current set up:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Iscariot-1538/hero/20922818

I would love to hear some sugguestions... because I think I might be doing something wrong.
SC:BW - NrG.fCuk // SC2 - NrGGuN
TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 17:39:14
November 09 2012 17:37 GMT
#3568
not really familiar with any of the new items - almost all of my gear is legacy at this point

haven't really played much since about a month after release (inferno nerf patch)

what should I buy!? p

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/tool-1395/hero/7516300

pretty much looking for item goals, and some budget upgrades.

Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
November 09 2012 21:00 GMT
#3569
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Dacendoran-1735/hero/26522347

Say I've got 250m to spend what do I buy to up my dps without dropping too much survivability
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
November 10 2012 03:52 GMT
#3570
(this question is for any well-geared ww barbs who are kind enough to answer)
On your normal Alkaizer run, what is your xp/hour? Just do 1 or 2 alkaizer runs, and record your start and end xp and the time taken for the run, then apply math.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 10 2012 04:11 GMT
#3571
On November 10 2012 02:37 TooL wrote:
not really familiar with any of the new items - almost all of my gear is legacy at this point

haven't really played much since about a month after release (inferno nerf patch)

what should I buy!? p

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/tool-1395/hero/7516300

pretty much looking for item goals, and some budget upgrades.


your chest armor is unbelievably bad. can be easily upgraded by a lot for 200k gold.



other than that, i would recommend to use 2 onehand weapons on a ww/sprint build, they are just not well-suited for 2handers. get an axe or mace mainhand with a socket and as high dps as possible and a sword or dagger offhand with 750+ LoH, some lifesteal and a socket. some str or cd are a bonus. dont care too much about the dps of your offhand, it only contributes maybe 20% of your overall damage on a ww/sprint build, even though the charscreen damage tells you otherwise.

concerning the rest of your gear, i would get some more crit chance. the higher the crit chance, the less fury issues you have.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
November 10 2012 04:56 GMT
#3572
I got a lvl 60 barb, and I'm thinking of gearing it up and tuning the skills now. I want to make a pure cc/tank barb. I'm not gonna ever be solo farming with it, so not putting dps into consideration. Its purpose is basically to tank high lvl ubers, or provide cc. Maybe in pvp if cc is really good, this build can be useful. I don't care if it's viable, I'm just having a lot of fun playing this build right now.

For skills, so far I'm really liking ground stomp/wrenching smash, leap/death from above, threatening shout/demoralize, and warcry/impunity. What do you guys think are some other good skills? I just want a ton of cc and not to ever die.

For gear, what kinds of stats should I go for? Since I'm doing a low budget build, I'm thinking of going no crit, and building high attack speed with life on hit. Everything else as much res, armor, and vit as possible.

Suggestions?
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
November 10 2012 07:35 GMT
#3573
On November 10 2012 13:56 Chairman Ray wrote:
I got a lvl 60 barb, and I'm thinking of gearing it up and tuning the skills now. I want to make a pure cc/tank barb. I'm not gonna ever be solo farming with it, so not putting dps into consideration. Its purpose is basically to tank high lvl ubers, or provide cc. Maybe in pvp if cc is really good, this build can be useful. I don't care if it's viable, I'm just having a lot of fun playing this build right now.

For skills, so far I'm really liking ground stomp/wrenching smash, leap/death from above, threatening shout/demoralize, and warcry/impunity. What do you guys think are some other good skills? I just want a ton of cc and not to ever die.

For gear, what kinds of stats should I go for? Since I'm doing a low budget build, I'm thinking of going no crit, and building high attack speed with life on hit. Everything else as much res, armor, and vit as possible.

Suggestions?


weapon throw with the stun rune is awesome

also dont count out life regen on gear. i've got like 500 and its awesome to roll back to full health while just running around
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Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
November 10 2012 07:46 GMT
#3574
On November 10 2012 02:28 FConnectionUK wrote:
Hi, I have question for all the Skorn user.
How do you keep up with maintaining Fury/WOTB?
It seems impossible to keep up WOTB in ubers and it's proving to be a pain in the neck.

Here is my current set up:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Iscariot-1538/hero/20922818

I would love to hear some sugguestions... because I think I might be doing something wrong.


I would love some input on this as well as i have the same problem. I only played a bit around with it though, because i just made a barb because of all the IK gear i found with my mage lol.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 08:22:15
November 10 2012 08:02 GMT
#3575
On November 10 2012 16:35 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 13:56 Chairman Ray wrote:
I got a lvl 60 barb, and I'm thinking of gearing it up and tuning the skills now. I want to make a pure cc/tank barb. I'm not gonna ever be solo farming with it, so not putting dps into consideration. Its purpose is basically to tank high lvl ubers, or provide cc. Maybe in pvp if cc is really good, this build can be useful. I don't care if it's viable, I'm just having a lot of fun playing this build right now.

For skills, so far I'm really liking ground stomp/wrenching smash, leap/death from above, threatening shout/demoralize, and warcry/impunity. What do you guys think are some other good skills? I just want a ton of cc and not to ever die.

For gear, what kinds of stats should I go for? Since I'm doing a low budget build, I'm thinking of going no crit, and building high attack speed with life on hit. Everything else as much res, armor, and vit as possible.

Suggestions?


weapon throw with the stun rune is awesome

also dont count out life regen on gear. i've got like 500 and its awesome to roll back to full health while just running around


Alright, will look for life regen as well. For my primary attack, I'm planning on using smite, so weapon throw may be a bit of an overlap.

How does this skill setup look?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WVXYgk!bVe!YccZYc
jESUIT
Profile Joined October 2012
United States151 Posts
November 10 2012 12:54 GMT
#3576
On November 10 2012 06:00 Dacendoran wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Dacendoran-1735/hero/26522347

Say I've got 250m to spend what do I buy to up my dps without dropping too much survivability



You can upgrade that belt of yours for super cheap...maybe a 200STR/75+AR/ Look for one w/ BASH% increase, you won't see it on paper DPS but a 10% increase in hidden dps is a huge amount for only 20-30m spent.

A new mainhand would do you wonders, esp an Echoing Fury. w/ that amount of money. You can find a fairly good one for around 140-180m. Remember in the WW build...IAS + CC is crucial to reaching those WW breakpoints. So the faster the furyw/ increase attacks per second the better! You seem somewhat lacking on VIT in my opinion... a decent IK chest will run you 90m. You have a lot of ias items but not a lot of CC, CD that's where the true raw damage comes from. Crit chance and crit damage.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/24725765

200k dps CM/WW Wiz https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 // GM Protoss
Stratos.FEAR
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada706 Posts
November 11 2012 04:17 GMT
#3577
need a gear check: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/StratosFEAR-1891/hero/11070811

I can farm mp5 for keys with ease and mp4 for ubers. Anything higher either kills me or takes too long to kill (enrage timers for ZK + siege ubers)

I don't have a lot of gold right now but what would be the cheapest to upgrade slot that i could see the most results with? and if possible what specifically should be in that slot in terms of stats
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
November 11 2012 04:40 GMT
#3578
On November 10 2012 02:28 FConnectionUK wrote:
Hi, I have question for all the Skorn user.
How do you keep up with maintaining Fury/WOTB?
It seems impossible to keep up WOTB in ubers and it's proving to be a pain in the neck.

Here is my current set up:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Iscariot-1538/hero/20922818

I would love to hear some sugguestions... because I think I might be doing something wrong.

I won't say it's impossible in general, it's just very situational. I can keep WotB up on MP8+ farming, since killing an elite pack requires one minute or more so I don't mind if WotB expires. On lower MPs, act I and in general low density dungeons, uber bosses etc it's almost impossible to keep WotB up with WW, but it's still very easy with Hammer of the Ancients no matter what your attack speed is (as long as you have high cc). The playstyle is very different as you can imagine, and don't forget that spamming HotA means you have to stand still and that requires s bit more survivability.

jESUIT
Profile Joined October 2012
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 04:50:06
November 11 2012 04:48 GMT
#3579
On November 10 2012 02:28 FConnectionUK wrote:
Hi, I have question for all the Skorn user.
How do you keep up with maintaining Fury/WOTB?
It seems impossible to keep up WOTB in ubers and it's proving to be a pain in the neck.

Here is my current set up:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Iscariot-1538/hero/20922818

I would love to hear some sugguestions... because I think I might be doing something wrong.


As mentioned before...it's kind of hard in lower MP. But for ubers persay or even large packs. I spam Sprint / Battle rage while im WWing a huge pack. Also spamming the two while just bashing also helps tremoundsly to keep up WOTB...Anything under MP4 I can't keep up WoTB effectively either. The trick is to when ur farming not kill every single thing obviously...Leave 4-5 units behind and just keep moving. You should be focusing on weakening the enemies just enough to where ur leaving the tornadoes alone should kill it off as your sprinting away. The way fury works is by managing the fury balance...You need to be regenerating fury while your using/burning it off it if that makes sense, that's how you keep up WoTB. if you already knew this sorry I wasted your time I was just trying to help
200k dps CM/WW Wiz https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 // GM Protoss
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 16:00:47
November 12 2012 16:00 GMT
#3580
So for all the barb experts. Where do I go from here?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Infinity-2447/hero/14149971

Do I need an OH with high dps after 1.05? What do I look for on a MH? Higher str or crit damage? A new ring is my first priority, but what's next? Appreciate any help. Budget is around 100-200 mil.

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