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holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
September 22 2012 01:48 GMT
#3141
On September 22 2012 10:16 vol_ wrote:
This guy is rocking monster power 10 with WW barb.
http://www.twitch.tv/kingkongor


This guy also stole shit from his viewers a few months ago.
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
September 22 2012 01:52 GMT
#3142
yeah king condom the scammer.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
September 22 2012 02:38 GMT
#3143
Can I get his profile please? Wanna see his shit
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
September 22 2012 02:44 GMT
#3144
Oh, I get it. He has the 5 IK set bonus. I guess you can ww pretty easily with that on 1.5

My barb has 70kdps 500% 58 chance but I only have 300 all res and 35k vit. I can't ww with that for shit. I also need to change my offhand gem for a Loh one.
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
September 22 2012 07:40 GMT
#3145
I'm downloading the PTR at the moment. I've had enough of rumours and speculation, so I'm just going to go and try the damn thing.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
September 22 2012 07:57 GMT
#3146
hmmm, we have to wait and see. the only thing that would totally, utterly piss me off is if this patch would force everyone who wants to go for an effective ww/sprint barb to use the IK set bonus. it would make it a rich people only build and cut into gear diversity.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
September 22 2012 08:23 GMT
#3147
On September 22 2012 10:48 holy_war wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 10:16 vol_ wrote:
This guy is rocking monster power 10 with WW barb.
http://www.twitch.tv/kingkongor


This guy also stole shit from his viewers a few months ago.

relevant information.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
September 22 2012 10:26 GMT
#3148
On September 22 2012 16:57 Black Gun wrote:
hmmm, we have to wait and see. the only thing that would totally, utterly piss me off is if this patch would force everyone who wants to go for an effective ww/sprint barb to use the IK set bonus. it would make it a rich people only build and cut into gear diversity.

And i just sold my IK belt for 120mio. Should have saved it for after the patch :D

Honestly guys, HoA-Smash Builds will be the thing to go for low-cost gear. Just dish out your 2mio crits (in good partys) and reg 12k hp per crit hit.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
September 22 2012 10:35 GMT
#3149
On September 21 2012 15:54 vol_ wrote:
If the WW build still works with less WOTB uptime I think thats great, it's a bit bullshit with 100% uptime.
I cant even read the item names that drop while running.

I want to pick up a lifesteal belt but im not sure whether to go for lamentation or an IK belt to start filling out my set.
I currently have the IK boots and helm.
Should I go for the set or are mix match pieces too good?


On September 21 2012 16:30 Aceace wrote:
You have 2 pieces of IK.

The answer is obvious.

Is it? :D
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
September 22 2012 12:29 GMT
#3150
On September 22 2012 19:35 vol_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 15:54 vol_ wrote:
If the WW build still works with less WOTB uptime I think thats great, it's a bit bullshit with 100% uptime.
I cant even read the item names that drop while running.

I want to pick up a lifesteal belt but im not sure whether to go for lamentation or an IK belt to start filling out my set.
I currently have the IK boots and helm.
Should I go for the set or are mix match pieces too good?


Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 16:30 Aceace wrote:
You have 2 pieces of IK.

The answer is obvious.

Is it? :D

Lamentation is kinda the low budget version of IKs Belt if u get a good one. Only thing which is "better" on lamentation is 1%crit.
If you want to mix and amtch pieces rather opt for the witching hour if you are rich enough
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
September 22 2012 14:10 GMT
#3151
On September 22 2012 19:26 bluQ wrote:
Honestly guys, HoA-Smash Builds will be the thing to go for low-cost gear. Just dish out your 2mio crits (in good partys) and reg 12k hp per crit hit.

More details please
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
WaZ
Profile Joined December 2010
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-22 16:01:21
September 22 2012 15:24 GMT
#3152
hey guys i was wondering if you had any suggestions on how i should spend my money coming up im a ranged barb and i am able to run act 3 fairly quickly without having to kite or anything much so even tho i have some very terrible peices i was thinking maybe i should save up for a big item that doesnt really address them i have 10mil right now i was thinking of either saving up another 5mil and getting a decent sun keeper or saving up another 10mil and getting a low end new tyrael or just spending it all on upgrades for the bad peices what you think? also i just noticed how rly terrible my enchantress is so that would probly factor into upgrading the bads
thx~
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/WaZ-1854/hero/20269737
also any suggestions would be appreciated on anything ive tried quite a few skills in the leap spot and havent really liked anything

edit: my bff gave me a good new tyrael he found @@ so now i owe him big but still sitting on 10m with one peice out of the way
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
September 22 2012 18:10 GMT
#3153
On September 22 2012 19:35 vol_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 15:54 vol_ wrote:
If the WW build still works with less WOTB uptime I think thats great, it's a bit bullshit with 100% uptime.
I cant even read the item names that drop while running.

I want to pick up a lifesteal belt but im not sure whether to go for lamentation or an IK belt to start filling out my set.
I currently have the IK boots and helm.
Should I go for the set or are mix match pieces too good?


Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 16:30 Aceace wrote:
You have 2 pieces of IK.

The answer is obvious.

Is it? :D


Ofc. You should go for IK set. IK has 2 bonus fury gain and I bet it will help you a lot. If your defensive stats aren't bad you can also pick Templar for %8 more fury gain. I think we can gain same life after patch but fury could be a problem. But if you can manage to complete your IK. I don't think you have a problem about fury.

I don't have any IK. But i bought a nice lamentation belt (242str 52 vit 220 armor) and a Sever for my offhand. I maintain hp with lifesteal,+10k health globe bonus, life per kill (Sever's unique ability make killing blows deal huge dmg. with %3 lifesteal it give me +7-12k life per kill.)
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-22 20:00:58
September 22 2012 19:48 GMT
#3154
On September 22 2012 23:10 Hairy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 19:26 bluQ wrote:
Honestly guys, HoA-Smash Builds will be the thing to go for low-cost gear. Just dish out your 2mio crits (in good partys) and reg 12k hp per crit hit.

More details please

The spec is kinda like Cleave(rupture or broad sweap), hammer of ancients (smash), warcry(impun(may change)), battle rage(IoF), sprint(rltw) <- can be changed to something totally different, Berserk(insanity).
Passives as you wish, but I guess you want ruthless and weapon mastery. I like to add brawler as the 3rd(gets me up to 100k in 80% of elite engagements). If you are scared to get in low hps get a defensive passive.

I am using a 2h with critdmg% and 6% lifeleech. Typicall random medicore str/vit equip, lamentation with %cleave and ofc 2.80+% lifeleech.
Key is to make enough damage (at least 300k crits) to heal you up immediatly.
I used a long time ancient spear with harpoon to stack the elites in one cell before me and just pulverize them.
Switched to berserk to get nasty stuff down (molten,illusionst,elecrtified crap) fast enough.

Get up to ~70k dps (pretty easy with 2hand imo) and crit the shit out of the elite packs.
When I am with monks my crits go up to 2kk.
Tho im currently running weapon throw build I will change back to 2h smash for /player X and the uber bosses.

edit: if people wonder why cleave: for me HoA with smash acts like a pseudo-single target therefor I want an "AoE" to clear the way if you are surrounded by trashmobs. Also I noticed that the healing from cleave with rupture when you trigger a lot of chains is you amazing. If you prefere something else do that, just keep an eye on your ability to recover HP when you are low on fury.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
September 24 2012 07:16 GMT
#3155
Ok thanks, I guess the reason Lamentation is so popular is the price.
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
Razhil
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium208 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 08:22:07
September 24 2012 07:42 GMT
#3156
On September 23 2012 04:48 bluQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 23:10 Hairy wrote:
On September 22 2012 19:26 bluQ wrote:
Honestly guys, HoA-Smash Builds will be the thing to go for low-cost gear. Just dish out your 2mio crits (in good partys) and reg 12k hp per crit hit.

More details please

The spec is kinda like Cleave(rupture or broad sweap), hammer of ancients (smash), warcry(impun(may change)), battle rage(IoF), sprint(rltw) <- can be changed to something totally different, Berserk(insanity).
Passives as you wish, but I guess you want ruthless and weapon mastery. I like to add brawler as the 3rd(gets me up to 100k in 80% of elite engagements). If you are scared to get in low hps get a defensive passive.

I am using a 2h with critdmg% and 6% lifeleech. Typicall random medicore str/vit equip, lamentation with %cleave and ofc 2.80+% lifeleech.
Key is to make enough damage (at least 300k crits) to heal you up immediatly.
I used a long time ancient spear with harpoon to stack the elites in one cell before me and just pulverize them.
Switched to berserk to get nasty stuff down (molten,illusionst,elecrtified crap) fast enough.

Get up to ~70k dps (pretty easy with 2hand imo) and crit the shit out of the elite packs.
When I am with monks my crits go up to 2kk.
Tho im currently running weapon throw build I will change back to 2h smash for /player X and the uber bosses.

edit: if people wonder why cleave: for me HoA with smash acts like a pseudo-single target therefor I want an "AoE" to clear the way if you are surrounded by trashmobs. Also I noticed that the healing from cleave with rupture when you trigger a lot of chains is you amazing. If you prefere something else do that, just keep an eye on your ability to recover HP when you are low on fury.


Hi there, seeing you speaking a non-ww barbarian, I wanted to say that I came with more or less exactly the same build. Already in D2 I hated the WW barbs and was prefering a Berzerk approach so I tried doing the same in D3.

This build let me really feel like a barbarian, not running around, just staying where I am and one-shotting everything. Critical with HoA goes from 7-800k to around 1M5 with Wrath.

I'm still looking for more LL so I'm using Ignore pain with Ignorance is bliss. During those 5 seconds I can regen from 0.01% to 100% of my own life in one critical strike. If I find more LL (IK belt with LL and cleave damage would be nice), I'd probably replace it with OverPower with the 10% CC rune or with Sprint/Marathon.

I'm using cleave, but I'm currently testing Battle Rage with Bloodshed rune. Proc is 0.8 with HoA-Smash, so a 1M critical strike does a (rather huge) 200k AoE. I can't wait for 1.05 with the improved CC bonus on HoA.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Razhil-2619/hero/1399083
LingsAreBunnies
Profile Joined September 2011
United States103 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 16:48:13
September 24 2012 16:47 GMT
#3157
Ive been running the HoA build for the past few days as well, and i think Ill probably stick with this build over ww in 1.05.

I dont think wotb is really necessary here though, trash dies instantly, and elites dies very quickly even without wotb anyways, whenever I used wotb it felt like a waste. Instead I think that ignore pain-iron hide and sprint-marathon are much more useful here, ignore pain allows you to spam HoA under arcane/molten/desc with very low defenses, and marathon allows you to easily chase down ranged elites and reposition if needed. Not concerned about lifesteal at all, at 100k dps or so you get more than enough life steal from the 3% passive.

bloodshed sounds really good with this build, but wouldnt you have fury problems without into the fray? I remember when I ran marauders rage I had to cleave elites a lot more than HoA.

Im also a bit indecisive between 1h + shield and 2h with this build, feels like the damage is already so high most of the time it feels like I can easily kill anything in time, 1h + shield seems more valuable with the extra defenses than 2h, Im curious if this will change with a new 50m skorn I bought on impulse.

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INeedLings-1648/hero/3247163
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 24 2012 18:03 GMT
#3158
I think you can get a shield that reduces HotA fury cost by 5 (bringing the fury cost to 15). That + into the fray and you should be able to spam HotA like crazy.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
September 24 2012 19:03 GMT
#3159
I plan to switch to a HotA-furious charge build, but it will take a long time I guess. i want a good Skorn with life steal (you know, better safe than sorry) and right know they're like 250mil. I'm at 105k unbuffed dps with sword & board, so I can't just buy a mediocre 2H.

35 legendaries dropped after 1.0.4 and I'm still poor.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 19:20:09
September 24 2012 19:14 GMT
#3160
On September 25 2012 01:47 LingsAreBunnies wrote:
Ive been running the HoA build for the past few days as well, and i think Ill probably stick with this build over ww in 1.05.

I dont think wotb is really necessary here though, trash dies instantly, and elites dies very quickly even without wotb anyways, whenever I used wotb it felt like a waste. Instead I think that ignore pain-iron hide and sprint-marathon are much more useful here, ignore pain allows you to spam HoA under arcane/molten/desc with very low defenses, and marathon allows you to easily chase down ranged elites and reposition if needed. Not concerned about lifesteal at all, at 100k dps or so you get more than enough life steal from the 3% passive.

bloodshed sounds really good with this build, but wouldnt you have fury problems without into the fray? I remember when I ran marauders rage I had to cleave elites a lot more than HoA.

Im also a bit indecisive between 1h + shield and 2h with this build, feels like the damage is already so high most of the time it feels like I can easily kill anything in time, 1h + shield seems more valuable with the extra defenses than 2h, Im curious if this will change with a new 50m skorn I bought on impulse.

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INeedLings-1648/hero/3247163


The synergy between LL and Twohanded base damage is just too nice to drop my lovly 1,3k dps, 113%critd 6%LL +200str 2hand. I mean if someone wants to give me his Skorn with LL for free I would imediatly throw my axe away
Just today I was testing around with various Shield-Ideas I came up with.
What I gathered: You need a shield with at least 200 str, and 10% crit (also with decent block% and AR) to make it viable.
If you got such a shield just try if the LL is still high enough.

I used Ignoranc(+bliss) alot too untill i switched to Lamentation and 6%LL twohanded, then I felt it was just useless.
When you push ur damage up enough so you can crit constantly for 400-700k you shouldn't have any problem

On September 25 2012 01:47 LingsAreBunnies wrote:
Ive been running the HoA build for the past few days as well, and i think Ill probably stick with this build over ww in 1.05.

I dont think wotb is really necessary here though, trash dies instantly, and elites dies very quickly even without wotb anyways, whenever I used wotb it felt like a waste. Instead I think that ignore pain-iron hide and sprint-marathon are much more useful here, ignore pain allows you to spam HoA under arcane/molten/desc with very low defenses, and marathon allows you to easily chase down ranged elites and reposition if needed. Not concerned about lifesteal at all, at 100k dps or so you get more than enough life steal from the 3% passive.

bloodshed sounds really good with this build, but wouldnt you have fury problems without into the fray? I remember when I ran marauders rage I had to cleave elites a lot more than HoA.

Im also a bit indecisive between 1h + shield and 2h with this build, feels like the damage is already so high most of the time it feels like I can easily kill anything in time, 1h + shield seems more valuable with the extra defenses than 2h, Im curious if this will change with a new 50m skorn I bought on impulse.

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INeedLings-1648/hero/3247163

I used WotB because every other skill felt like a bigger waste. Im using sprint in every build cause it makes farming so much more effcient.
I don't need ignore pain because of my LL so swaping that with WotB felt as i said more like a waste.
And if you have elites like "Illusionst, Jailer, Plague, Frozen" I often got trashed cause of perm rooting/freezing.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
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