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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 22:07:06
May 28 2012 22:03 GMT
#1261
On May 29 2012 06:57 diophan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 05:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I'd also like to mention that crit dmg doesn't calculate into the dps of the weapon. If you find something like that it usually does significantly more damage than another weapon with the same dps. My friend got an 800 dps weapon with 97% crit dmg that gave him 3k more damage than a 870 dps weapon.


Well there's no way for them to include it in the weapon dps because that appears the same to everyone, and not everyone has the same crit chance (obviously).

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On May 29 2012 06:48 Markwerf wrote:
On May 29 2012 06:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On May 29 2012 06:36 NB wrote:
lot of people just get increase attack speed to raise their DPS then go back to Blizzard hydra + 2hand weapon ... i dont even -_-

Lmao, that's so dumb. My friend apparently has 67k "DPS" stacking attack speed in every slot he can. It's just so unbelievably dumb.


It's not dumb actually. Many spells actually care about DPS instead of damage and attack speed is just the best DPS boost item. AP efficiency is often not that much of an issue with most wizard builds, especially since you have to kite a lot anyway.



What wizard build isn't AP starved and cares about attack speed? I don't considering stacking attack speed in a bunch of slots so my blzzard animation is 40% faster reasonable. And if you're doing the AO build you're AP starved.

I was simply pointing out that going for just "DPS" when shopping is a bit of a misnomer at higher end gear levels.

Also, why not just skip some attack speed and go for mass intelligence? You can probably gain 50 int on each peace that way.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 22:29:55
May 28 2012 22:25 GMT
#1262
does no1 use temporal flux ? with it i can kite shit all day long with AO. A1 Inferno atm only thing i have problem with is invuln minions/mortars ofc..
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 28 2012 22:27 GMT
#1263
On May 29 2012 07:25 Nizaris wrote:
does no1 use temporal flux ? with it i can kite shit all day long with AO. A1 Inferno atm.

A lot of people, including me, do.
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
May 28 2012 22:29 GMT
#1264
On May 29 2012 07:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 07:25 Nizaris wrote:
does no1 use temporal flux ? with it i can kite shit all day long with AO. A1 Inferno atm.

A lot of people, including me, do.

seems i don't see many builds with it.. i think it's the best passive?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 28 2012 22:30 GMT
#1265
It's one of the best if you use an Arcane Orb based build. Not so good if you use a blizzard/venom hydra build which a lot of people do.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 28 2012 22:45 GMT
#1266
I use it as well. Wondering if I should use venom or arcane hydra.
Jacen88
Profile Joined October 2010
74 Posts
May 28 2012 22:47 GMT
#1267
Hey
i just found a nice sellable item that will probably bring me up to 2-3million gold and i would like to spend that as optimal as possible on a new weapon.

I am however a bit confused about what stats i should look for.

I'm mostly using the arcane orb/hydra build.

So whats the pros and cons in fast vs slow weapons for a kiting build?

My current understanding is that a slow 2hander should be a lot better, because u get to spend your AP more effectively and need to stop running less frequently. Only downside is a longer casting animation.

Also, achieving the same dps values with 2 items (1h+oh) might be much more expensive than a single 2h?

Last question: How much int equals a point of dps on a weapon? (as in: is the mace with 100 less dps but 180 int more better or worse?)
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 28 2012 23:02 GMT
#1268
Slow 2H for sheer hitting power on Orb is best imo, you want to get the highest single hits because you have limited shots (AP regen).

Int increases damage by 1% per point, you can see that figure in the 'details' tab from inventory.

Firebolts rings: Two on the right. Best overall stats.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 28 2012 23:04 GMT
#1269
Ah thanks dfgj. Snagged the top left one for 50k, pretty sure I can make a profit out of that one anyway!
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 28 2012 23:04 GMT
#1270
*Int increases weapon dmg by 1%.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 23:06:30
May 28 2012 23:06 GMT
#1271
On May 29 2012 08:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ah thanks dfgj. Snagged the top left one for 50k, pretty sure I can make a profit out of that one anyway!

Yeah it's not too bad. Bottom left is nice but has no vit so :<

I just use two int/vit/attack speed rings myself, they're kind of low on my priority list to upgrade.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 23:08:34
May 28 2012 23:08 GMT
#1272
I could definitely use new rings. Idk, maybe I'll go crit rings cause I have like 1.8 attack speed already. If you're not using the upper left one, how much would you sell it for?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 28 2012 23:09 GMT
#1273
Nvm UK TT
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
May 28 2012 23:10 GMT
#1274
attack speed has it's place in a hydra/blizzard build anyway.

I use seeker with temporal flux and dynamo and since you can actually get attacks off while running with a decent attack speed, it allows you to do considerable extra damage. it's especially effective in groups where you can shoot all of your damage spells around corners and terrain.

and yes, the current thinking is that hydra does damage based on DPS. if you care about the damage your blizzard does, Im a bit confused. who cares about the difference between crap and awful?
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
worldsnap
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada222 Posts
May 28 2012 23:11 GMT
#1275
On May 29 2012 07:47 Jacen88 wrote:
Hey
i just found a nice sellable item that will probably bring me up to 2-3million gold and i would like to spend that as optimal as possible on a new weapon.

I am however a bit confused about what stats i should look for.

I'm mostly using the arcane orb/hydra build.

So whats the pros and cons in fast vs slow weapons for a kiting build?

My current understanding is that a slow 2hander should be a lot better, because u get to spend your AP more effectively and need to stop running less frequently. Only downside is a longer casting animation.

Also, achieving the same dps values with 2 items (1h+oh) might be much more expensive than a single 2h?

Last question: How much int equals a point of dps on a weapon? (as in: is the mace with 100 less dps but 180 int more better or worse?)


That totally depends on absolute value of the damage on the weapon, not just the increase. For example (assuming 1.0 attack speed and 1000 int from other items), if you are doing 10,000 dps right now, then losing 100 dps and gaining 180 int will take you to 10355 dps. If you were doing 4000 dps, on the other hand, then the switch would take you from 4000 to 3366 dps.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 23:17:50
May 28 2012 23:12 GMT
#1276
On May 29 2012 08:08 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I could definitely use new rings. Idk, maybe I'll go crit rings cause I have like 1.8 attack speed already. If you're not using the upper left one, how much would you sell it for?

I'm actually on the US server. Yay for RL friends screwing me over with 400 ping!

I had put it on the AH for 300k but just managed to cancel it. 260k?

edit: Down from 45k to 40k paper dps, screw you attack speed for spoiling me!
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 23:19:06
May 28 2012 23:17 GMT
#1277
Yeah I'd buy that but I don't come back from work for another hour and half or so TT

edit: actually nvm just sell it
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 28 2012 23:18 GMT
#1278
On May 29 2012 08:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Yeah I'd buy that but I don't come back from work for another hour and half or so TT

I may be awake in an hour in a half, bout to watch a movie. PM me on TL when you're back. If not I'll give it to you tomorrow ~
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 28 2012 23:19 GMT
#1279
Just sell it, it's ok, think I might go for some other stats maybe depending
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 28 2012 23:22 GMT
#1280
Hokay.
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