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So despite me posting mathematics in this thread a few times, it is only now that I have access to my computer, and I am finally downloading diablo on my lightning fast connection (100kb/s...). Care to help me plan out out a bit what to do? And maybe it could even be a draft for a beginners guide for a wizard.  So let me knoe if anything below doesn't make any sense.
1. First goal would be to be able to do archon runs at act3 mp0 (no reason to do higher MP at act3 right?) decently quick. (I don't feel like cc/ww spam)
2. Second goal would be to get MF up to close to 300 while still being able to do the act3 mp0 runs.
3. Once there, I want to be able to run higher MP as fast, while maintaining MF close to 300.
I get the feeling that step 1 will be plenty of work already, so maybe some advice on what road to take there, ie in what order should I pick up my stats?
A bit simplified, I need:
- a lot of int
- a bit of vit
- some resist
- some armour
- critical chance
- critical damage
- high dps weapon
- move speed
Did I forget anything?
And more importantly, in what order should I prioritise these as I level up and gear my char?
Thanks for any help, and see you on the EU server. 
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Any reason you're playing on EU? friends? I know default connection is to EU but ping is slightly better to US from here.
edit: your list pretty much covers it. this game is simple.
If you can find some regen life on 1 or 2 pieces of gear I would recommend it, helps a ton against reflects damage. Eventually you need life leech on your weapon to mitigate it, at which point things start becoming expensive.
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On November 22 2012 12:07 FakeDouble wrote:
Any reason you're playing on EU? friends? I know default connection is to EU but ping is slightly better to US from here.
edit: your list pretty much covers it. this game is simple.
If you can find some regen life on 1 or 2 pieces of gear I would recommend it, helps a ton against reflects damage. Eventually you need life leech on your weapon to mitigate it, at which point things start becoming expensive.
Yeah, friends. I'm actually Swedish, but live in Melbourne atm.
Should I start with int and vit maybe?
cc and cd are only good when you have a lot of both as I understand, so maybe not a good place to start?
Or should I just do everything at once? 
And regen life sounds like a good advice! With low dps and aps, I guess life regen is the cheaper option? ty.
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ah okay, also congrats on muta icon XD
Int and vit through normal and nightmare. If you were playing hardcore, you can start getting level 51 gear with 10-20 all resists, but its unecessary in softcore. Try to hold off buying gear on AH until you hit lvl 60, just flawless square gems for extra stats, ruby in helm and weapon. Unlike D2, low level gear is worthless later on so don't invest in it. Don't waste any of it on levelling your blacksmith, jeweller or crafting the staff of herding, early on, you can do it later if you want.
These days you don't need a lot of gold to get pretty decent gear. In the time it takes to get from normal to the end of hell, you'll probably pick up at least 500k gold. You could definitely beat inferno with 500k, probably need a little more to farm mp0 comfortably. Crit chance is good in any amount, and these days it's fairly cheap. Start with int, vit, res all/armor or int vit crit chance on most pieces, int cc cd gloves and int cd amulet.
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On November 22 2012 13:19 FakeDouble wrote:
ah okay, also congrats on muta icon XD
Int and vit through normal and nightmare. If you were playing hardcore, you can start getting level 51 gear with 10-20 all resists, but its unecessary in softcore. Try to hold off buying gear on AH until you hit lvl 60, just flawless square gems for extra stats, ruby in helm and weapon. Unlike D2, low level gear is worthless later on so don't invest in it. Don't waste any of it on levelling your blacksmith, jeweller or crafting the staff of herding, early on, you can do it later if you want.
These days you don't need a lot of gold to get pretty decent gear. In the time it takes to get from normal to the end of hell, you'll probably pick up at least 500k gold. You could definitely beat inferno with 500k, probably need a little more to farm mp0 comfortably. Crit chance is good in any amount, and these days it's fairly cheap. Start with int, vit, res all/armor or int vit crit chance on most pieces, int cc cd gloves and int cd amulet.
Ok, that sounds great. I'll try that out as soon as this silly download is done! thanks.
and congrats on your firebat.
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You could pick up a 9CC/50CD/130Int ammy for around 2-3M, and get 6% crit rings quite affordably as well. Get a chest with AR. You could consider a witching hour as well for belt.
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You can get attack speed crit chance gloves for very cheap, sacrificing crit dmg will help with getting more freezes off.
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On November 22 2012 11:42 Cascade wrote:So despite me posting mathematics in this thread a few times, it is only now that I have access to my computer, and I am finally downloading diablo on my lightning fast connection (100kb/s...). Care to help me plan out out a bit what to do? And maybe it could even be a draft for a beginners guide for a wizard. So let me knoe if anything below doesn't make any sense. 1. First goal would be to be able to do archon runs at act3 mp0 (no reason to do higher MP at act3 right?) decently quick. (I don't feel like cc/ww spam) 2. Second goal would be to get MF up to close to 300 while still being able to do the act3 mp0 runs. 3. Once there, I want to be able to run higher MP as fast, while maintaining MF close to 300. I get the feeling that step 1 will be plenty of work already, so maybe some advice on what road to take there, ie in what order should I pick up my stats? A bit simplified, I need: - a lot of int - a bit of vit - some resist - some armour - critical chance - critical damage - high dps weapon Did I forget anything? And more importantly, in what order should I prioritise these as I level up and gear my char? Thanks for any help, and see you on the EU server.
Getting plus 24 movement speed is good for archon farming. You could get boots with intel, movemnt speed and either vit or all resistance for dirt cheap both will cost you a bit. And u can get Lacuni's without cc for 300k
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That's a very good point Pryda, I'll edit my post.
Once I get closer, I may go more into slot-by-slot for how to progress.
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How does chantodo's set compare to triumvirate+random lifeleech/socketed 1h?
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On November 25 2012 05:20 calgar wrote:
How does chantodo's set compare to triumvirate+random lifeleech/socketed 1h?
Very good for CM. Triumv + phys weapon will win DPS wise though.
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Okay is there anyone who can break it down for me just how good Life Steal on a Skorn is for my Wizard?
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Enickma-2780/hero/3372093
I have 135k DPS (unbuffed) with 1.34 APS.
How good would a 4.5/5% LS Skorn be for my survivability? I mean in raw life regen numbers.
Would LOH be better and how much is needed? I mean where's the breaking point between LS and LOH for my char.
IIRC there's an 80% reduction on LS in Inferno. Correct me if I'm wrong but my 135k DPS * 0.2 = 27.000 with maybe 5% LS would give 1.350 life regen.
Also is the converted damage subtracted from my overall DPS so I do 5% less damage with a 5% LS weapon or do I do full damage and the LS is just a bonus?
Is that per second/per target hit or is it related to my APS so the higher APS the more life regen I get or how does it work?
Also is there any reduction on LOH in Inferno? Say if I get a Skorn with 1.000 LOH is that per second/target hit or does it relate to APS too?
I'm really confused about this LS vs. LOH thing! But I sure hope someone smarter can break it down for me in plain English with raw numbers so I know what to look for and how much of a say it has if I'm running Paragon farming in Archon mode or doing übers on MP5 but without any CM/WW build.
EDIT:
Would lose 300 Vit (have 43.5k HP currently) but guess I could regain some of that from other items. So basically I'm wondering if LS is worth it for higher MP levels and just how effective it is against Reflect Damage and such.
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It is based on the actual damage of your attacks, not your dps. The normal archon beam does 300% weapon damage, and improved archon does 375%, so on a single target you will average about 4k life per second with regular archon, but the beam obviously can hit many targets at once, so you will usually be healing much more than that.
To compare to life on hit, your life on hit is affected by the proc rate of the attack, which for the archon beam is I believe 33%, but with 2 ticks per second but am too lazy to look up. Anyway, with 1000 LoH on a single target you would only be getting 666-ish life on hit, so to get the equivalent lifegain from lifesteal you would need around 5k LoH, which is I think impossible.
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To put it bluntly, there's only one wizard build which makes good use of life on hit: The CMWW freeze spam build.
For the rest, LS all the way. The thing is, LoH isn't reduced by fixed amount in inferno like LS, but it's instead reduced by coefficients which are different for each skill and rune. Sadly, the coefficents are laughably low for all of them. CMWW makes LoH work though, because there are a crapton of attacks going on concurrently.
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Thanks guys
But how much practical difference is there between a 4.5% LS Skorn or a 6% LS Skorn?
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Somehow I've just today learned about Enchantress + Maximus. Easily gained an MP level for my archon farming, if anyone isn't doing this I'd recommend it.
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what are archon wizards using to fight ubers?
i am using a scramble archon build for paragon leveling / item farming, and am not geared for a cm/ww build. i am not really sure what to do for the uber runs. i have been doing a modified archon build as follows (basically, i use frost nova to freeze, living lightning to get archon back up and then blast away with archon for 15 secs). i rarely die against mp7/8 ubers.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bmYXSO!bfg!ccZacc
i also switch out my experience ring for a stone of jordan with a 9% boost to shock pulse/living lightning.
anyone have anything more efficient for ubers? i was debating whether to go back to a hydra/orb or hydra/blizzard combo for just ubers.
my char
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dAPhREAk-1843/hero/3929813
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On November 27 2012 08:37 dAPhREAk wrote:what are archon wizards using to fight ubers? i am using a scramble archon build for paragon leveling / item farming, and am not geared for a cm/ww build. i am not really sure what to do for the uber runs. i have been doing a modified archon build as follows (basically, i use frost nova to freeze, living lightning to get archon back up and then blast away with archon for 15 secs). i rarely die against mp7/8 ubers. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bmYXSO!bfg!ccZacci also switch out my experience ring for a stone of jordan with a 9% boost to shock pulse/living lightning. anyone have anything more efficient for ubers? i was debating whether to go back to a hydra/orb or hydra/blizzard combo for just ubers. my char http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dAPhREAk-1843/hero/3929813
hydra orb was super shit the last time i tried it. less survivability and less dmg.
until some time ago i just ran my normal archon build just with evocation, pure power and frost nova (snap) instead of sparkflint. then i invested like 15m into a 9/10 apoc chantodo set + random socket stormcrow and without any other gearchanges can easily "tank" up to mp7/8, more when there is a barb in grp.
its not expensive, groups love you and the dmg isnt that much lower since ubers are pretty nice targets for cm while they suck for archon. wouldnt be surprised if i did less overall dmg as archon with 240k dps then as cm with 135k.
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On November 27 2012 09:38 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 08:37 dAPhREAk wrote:what are archon wizards using to fight ubers? i am using a scramble archon build for paragon leveling / item farming, and am not geared for a cm/ww build. i am not really sure what to do for the uber runs. i have been doing a modified archon build as follows (basically, i use frost nova to freeze, living lightning to get archon back up and then blast away with archon for 15 secs). i rarely die against mp7/8 ubers. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bmYXSO!bfg!ccZacci also switch out my experience ring for a stone of jordan with a 9% boost to shock pulse/living lightning. anyone have anything more efficient for ubers? i was debating whether to go back to a hydra/orb or hydra/blizzard combo for just ubers. my char http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dAPhREAk-1843/hero/3929813 hydra orb was super shit the last time i tried it. less survivability and less dmg. until some time ago i just ran my normal archon build just with evocation, pure power and frost nova (snap) instead of sparkflint. then i invested like 15m into a 9/10 apoc chantodo set + random socket stormcrow and without any other gearchanges can easily "tank" up to mp7/8, more when there is a barb in grp. its not expensive, groups love you and the dmg isnt that much lower since ubers are pretty nice targets for cm while they suck for archon. wouldnt be surprised if i did less overall dmg as archon with 240k dps then as cm with 135k.
so, basically, you are saying do a simple re-gear and do a cm/ww build?
i was wondering if there are any viable builds other than cm/ww for ubers.
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