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On November 01 2012 20:56 SC2Panda wrote:Sorry if this is the wrong thread but I need some advice how to improve my Wizard. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Panda-2836/hero/8235918I can run Act 1 MP 1 or Act 3 MP 0 easily but I want some upgrades in order to run something like MP 3. Currently I have ~23 mil. gold. Any suggestions what to upgrade first and how to make my Wizard MP3 viable ?
In regards to you...MP3 solo @ ur dps is impossible...IMO I believe you would truly need around 140k+ dps to do MP3 viable..and even then I wouldn't really recommend it w/ ur low AR.
As far as being able to do act 3 MP1-2 upgrades
You could use some AR on your helm or even a socket would make a huge difference.
You could eaaaaaaaaasily upgrade your pants w/ some vit + AR for under 5m.
If you wanted more of a dps output...Your gloves could take the biggest upgrade..Throw on some cc/cd for a huge dps stat boost for you.
I noticed you went Life after kill...Bad mistake imo. If your going to remain under 100k dps which I believe you will for a little while..You need a life on hit weapon.
Your rings could also take a huge upgrade...Rings w/ just 4.5 cc/cd you can find under 1m a piece.
You might be able to find a new chest piece w/ same int + vit + AR for under 10m im not exact w/ EU prices.
Also drop storm armor rune for Prismatic Armor..this will help dramatically w/ survivability.
I see your using blood magic rune. That's a good choice. I'd agree w/ that esp w/ no LS/LoH on weap.
Also your gems in your gear could use an upgrade. 500k a piece for atleast a Star Topaz.
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 - is my gear
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On November 01 2012 20:56 SC2Panda wrote:Sorry if this is the wrong thread but I need some advice how to improve my Wizard. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Panda-2836/hero/8235918I can run Act 1 MP 1 or Act 3 MP 0 easily but I want some upgrades in order to run something like MP 3. Currently I have ~23 mil. gold. Any suggestions what to upgrade first and how to make my Wizard MP3 viable ?
tbh id start changing evrything. there is no part i saw you want to keep really. you need way more crit ,way more def stats and way more dmg.
new gloves are a must(look for int/vit/crit/critdmg/ar ones), new rings(int cc,cdmg), new helm, new pants/chest(allres). but you can gain a TON with 20m so its all cool. also gems, such a gem in the weapon is just a waste of dps. get atleast a flawless star in there.
i stopped doing sub mp3 stuff when i hit ~115k dps few days ago. with ~550ar and 40-45k hp.
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I am capable of MP4 Archon runs, so I think 100K dps is fine for MP3, here is my gear:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hwbgLan-1876/hero/1816087
I need to increase All res a little bit, but I imagine helm or amu with all res is not very expensive over mine. I have another gear for CM/WW MP6-7 uber bosses runs with 19APoC and over 2.6 attack speed.
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On November 01 2012 23:34 Ammorphalisk wrote:I am capable of MP4 Archon runs, so I think 100K dps is fine for MP3, here is my gear: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hwbgLan-1876/hero/1816087I need to increase All res a little bit, but I imagine helm or amu with all res is not very expensive over mine. I have another gear for CM/WW MP6-7 uber bosses runs with 19APoC and over 2.6 attack speed.
anything under 140k dps for MP3 act 3 is too low to keep up Archon 100% of the time in my opinion. Which is stupid and inefficient if you don't keep up archon. Sure in keeps you can keep up..But once you hit fields of slaughter or tower...you will not. So let me rephrase that...yes you can do 100k dps and solo MP3..it's possible....but it's far inefficient and much better and much faster to do just drop to MP1-2.
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You're right, I lose Archon on MP4 from time to time (at least 70% archon), but I can skip areas which have bad mobs/elites density, and I also kill mobs relatively fast and recharge archon relatively fast with the spectral blades (event better with twister, but get bored of it) and storm armor/scramble. Sure, it'a a tag worse efficient, but the increased MF,exp and bonus item % of the higher MP, + the 10% better chance for key, and the fun factor - killing everything with your permanent archon without a slight chance to get killed gets boring after a day or two makes it up for me. Also about the DPS - cold blooded, Improved archon, SoJ 30% vs elites and storm armor damage should be considered as well.
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I have 158k dps and i still feel like it's too low for MP3.
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On November 02 2012 00:17 Ammorphalisk wrote:
You're right, I lose Archon on MP4 from time to time (at least 70% archon), but I can skip areas which have bad mobs/elites density, and I also kill mobs relatively fast and recharge archon relatively fast with the spectral blades (event better with twister, but get bored of it) and storm armor/scramble. Sure, it'a a tag worse efficient, but the increased MF,exp and bonus item % of the higher MP, + the 10% better chance for key, and the fun factor - killing everything with your permanent archon without a slight chance to get killed gets boring after a day or two makes it up for me. Also about the DPS - cold blooded, Improved archon, SoJ 30% vs elites and storm armor damage should be considered as well.
Yeah I get what your saying. I throw on
teleport(wormhole)
teleport archon
Storm armor(scramble)
Hellfire ring, Bonus exp 31% gem in helm, and 30% leoric, as well as a HF ring and leoric on my follower for max exp
for super super fast Alkaizer runs. I do an Alkaizer run @ 170k dps w/ that gear and skills on in about 15min max for 11-15m exp. on MP2 w/ 100% archon entire run w/o skipping any elites/mob density.
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Also to any of the more KNOWLEDGEABLE AND PRO Wizards out there. If any of you would like to submit a guide to "How to gear for a certain build" Or how to create a certain build. I would like to start to get this thread more updated. The original creator of this thread hasn't updated the main page on this in a loooooooong time. I spoke with him already he said anything I want to submit to him we can you will receive full credit just PM and I will review it myself. Please include your profile also if I don't know you so I can make sure you actually even have a decently geared char. I have been meaning to create my own guide for gearing I just haven't got around too it. I wanted to speak w/ about 5-6 different individuals first and gather what they believe is best before I ever posted something like that too the public. So if anyone has any suggestions to gearing and building please submit to me in a PM w/ your guide. I know i've seen Kiwikaki post a few guide as well as alQua., Bondator is also a really good EU Wiz i've always looked up too and talked w/ quite a bit about improving my own. Also Disco so I am really hoping to get some good input from them as well.
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On November 02 2012 03:41 jESUIT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 00:17 Ammorphalisk wrote:
You're right, I lose Archon on MP4 from time to time (at least 70% archon), but I can skip areas which have bad mobs/elites density, and I also kill mobs relatively fast and recharge archon relatively fast with the spectral blades (event better with twister, but get bored of it) and storm armor/scramble. Sure, it'a a tag worse efficient, but the increased MF,exp and bonus item % of the higher MP, + the 10% better chance for key, and the fun factor - killing everything with your permanent archon without a slight chance to get killed gets boring after a day or two makes it up for me. Also about the DPS - cold blooded, Improved archon, SoJ 30% vs elites and storm armor damage should be considered as well. Yeah I get what your saying. I throw on teleport(wormhole) teleport archon Storm armor(scramble) Hellfire ring, Bonus exp 31% gem in helm, and 30% leoric, as well as a HF ring and leoric on my follower for max exp for super super fast Alkaizer runs. I do an Alkaizer run @ 170k dps w/ that gear and skills on in about 15min max for 11-15m exp. on MP2 w/ 100% archon entire run w/o skipping any elites/mob density.
does putting a +exp ring on your follower increase your own experience?
edit: according to this you get 20% of experience off of follower rings.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/930659-diablo-iii/64398722
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004341580
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On November 02 2012 04:01 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 03:41 jESUIT wrote:On November 02 2012 00:17 Ammorphalisk wrote:
You're right, I lose Archon on MP4 from time to time (at least 70% archon), but I can skip areas which have bad mobs/elites density, and I also kill mobs relatively fast and recharge archon relatively fast with the spectral blades (event better with twister, but get bored of it) and storm armor/scramble. Sure, it'a a tag worse efficient, but the increased MF,exp and bonus item % of the higher MP, + the 10% better chance for key, and the fun factor - killing everything with your permanent archon without a slight chance to get killed gets boring after a day or two makes it up for me. Also about the DPS - cold blooded, Improved archon, SoJ 30% vs elites and storm armor damage should be considered as well. Yeah I get what your saying. I throw on teleport(wormhole) teleport archon Storm armor(scramble) Hellfire ring, Bonus exp 31% gem in helm, and 30% leoric, as well as a HF ring and leoric on my follower for max exp for super super fast Alkaizer runs. I do an Alkaizer run @ 170k dps w/ that gear and skills on in about 15min max for 11-15m exp. on MP2 w/ 100% archon entire run w/o skipping any elites/mob density. does putting a +exp ring on your follower increase your own experience? edit: according to this you get 20% of experience off of follower rings. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/930659-diablo-iii/64398722https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004341580
yes sir  and goodjob finding the threads for that. I just threw a (vitality)HF ring on my follower and tried it that way and noticed it went up lol so I invested in another leoric for him. and just bought a
200vit+ / 40% MF ammy
200+vit token.
2x 100vit + ias 9% (rings)
I also invested in a nice 20m Buriza because buriza has up to like 15% chance to freeze & like 70% pierce chance.
So I gave him multishot so he freezes damn near everything for me. Also I chose the "Hysteria" Passive on him because it gives me a 10% dmg increase for about 5seconds. Which bumps me to like 300k dps+ which is super nice. It's also A LOT more dps increase then the standard 3% increase cc the other passive offers.
edit: he almost never dies...even in mp5-7 unless he gets stuck in like desc/molten
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My scoundrel has bow with cold damage so he slows all the mobs for me with the multishots.
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On November 01 2012 22:30 jESUIT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 20:56 SC2Panda wrote:Sorry if this is the wrong thread but I need some advice how to improve my Wizard. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Panda-2836/hero/8235918I can run Act 1 MP 1 or Act 3 MP 0 easily but I want some upgrades in order to run something like MP 3. Currently I have ~23 mil. gold. Any suggestions what to upgrade first and how to make my Wizard MP3 viable ? In regards to you...MP3 solo @ ur dps is impossible...IMO I believe you would truly need around 140k+ dps to do MP3 viable..and even then I wouldn't really recommend it w/ ur low AR. As far as being able to do act 3 MP1-2 upgrades You could use some AR on your helm or even a socket would make a huge difference. You could eaaaaaaaaasily upgrade your pants w/ some vit + AR for under 5m. If you wanted more of a dps output...Your gloves could take the biggest upgrade..Throw on some cc/cd for a huge dps stat boost for you. I noticed you went Life after kill...Bad mistake imo. If your going to remain under 100k dps which I believe you will for a little while..You need a life on hit weapon. Your rings could also take a huge upgrade...Rings w/ just 4.5 cc/cd you can find under 1m a piece. You might be able to find a new chest piece w/ same int + vit + AR for under 10m im not exact w/ EU prices. Also drop storm armor rune for Prismatic Armor..this will help dramatically w/ survivability. I see your using blood magic rune. That's a good choice. I'd agree w/ that esp w/ no LS/LoH on weap. Also your gems in your gear could use an upgrade. 500k a piece for atleast a Star Topaz. https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 - is my gear
Thanks for the advice ! I've upgraded my gear and now I can easily run Act 3 MP 1 and try to improve my Wizard even further ! (=
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First off are the rings I have even worth it?
I play for fun but trying to do higher mp levels.
Or should I just focus on upgrading bracers and shoulders?
Hero
Thank you
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Depends, they are very good defensive rings, but you are giving up a lot of DPS compared to a ring with decent int, crit chance and crit damage, or crit chance and attack speed. That litany is really well rolled and upgrading it would be ridiculous, but if you just want DPS, you can probably find a rare that does significantly more damage than your wailing host.
Edit: Just noticed your source. You can get way more damage out of a chantodo's source, or a triumvirate, and your build doesn't look like it really needs the AP on crit. Also, if you up your damage then you can farm faster with an archon build.
Edit 2: And you can easily find HUGE upgrades to those shoulders if you're willing to give up some magic find. Eventually you'll probably want a witching hour belt, so more defensive stats on your shoulders will let you lose some defense and gain offense on the witching hour.
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On November 01 2012 10:12 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 09:46 FallDownMarigold wrote:On October 31 2012 06:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On October 31 2012 06:29 jESUIT wrote:On October 31 2012 06:25 dAPhREAk wrote:On October 31 2012 06:21 jESUIT wrote:On October 31 2012 06:11 dAPhREAk wrote:On October 31 2012 06:08 jESUIT wrote:On October 30 2012 02:19 dAPhREAk wrote:On October 30 2012 02:15 HornyHerring wrote:
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And skip LS? Can I survive without it? life steal sucks anyways. you want life on hit. if you can get a good weapon with life on hit and crit dmg (think tens of millions) that would be the best. if you really want life steal, you can switch force weapon for blood magic. i would buy the triumvirate before anything else. i bought one for 1M that works real well for me. Hmmm life on hit is NOT the way to go for archon build...Def go life steal try and aim for above 2.5%, a crit dmg, socketed, LS weap may be out of your price range. But a weapon w/ around 900+ dps w/ lifesteal above 2.5-3% + crit dmg is relatively affordable...I've found lots of them for 500k and bought for friends who needed. dont forget the 80% reduction for life steal in inferno compared to the 0% reduction for life on hit in inferno. So let me get this straight. I do 200k+ dps in archon. Let's do the math here. 3.00% LS @ 200k dps 200,000 x .03 = 6,000 6,000 x .8(for your 80% inferno nerf) = 4,800 6,000(LS) - 4,800(NERF) = 1,200 So I would need......1,200 life on hit....to keep up w/ just 3.00% LS on my weapon. So I would have to downgrade..Multiple pieces of gear just for life on hit. To keep up w/ just 3.00% LS on my weapon...At lower levels of DPS...sure I could see where life on hit could be more viable. 3.00% LS @ 100k dps = 600 life on hit...I would still need a weapon w/ ATLEAST 600 life on hit to keep up w/ 3.00% LS. he has 50k dps. so, want to give some advice thats useful? you also did your math wrong. its 80% reducation (i.e., you get 20%, not 80%). o.O??? I gave 20% not 80% 6,000(LS) - 4,800(NERF) = 1,200 6,000 is the LS on 200k dps. 4,800(80% on NERF) - 100% - 80% = 20% ........ I was just referring to your comment on saying LS sucks anyways that's all. At his level yes LoH is more correct. yes, i edited that out before you posted. i was confused why you multipled by .8 instead of .2. regardless, you told him to get life steal, not LOH, so i am not sure why you are backtracking now. Hmmm life on hit is NOT the way to go for archon build...Def go life steal try and aim for above 2.5% It's not too confusing once you lay it out in a super simplistic way: -Life on hit is optimal for lower DPS. ~30-50K is lower DPS. -Life steal is optimal for higher DPS. ~100-200K+ is higher DPS. He's saying life steal is more optimal for archon because archon is generally pretty high DPS, unless your base DPS is straight up too low, in which case you shouldn't be running archon, period. Once your DPS is to the point where archon is a decent choice (~80-100K), you'll want to be using life steal anyway. If your DPS is so low that LOH is optimal, you shouldn't be running archon...you won't kill quickly enough to keep the 300% dmg bonus up as long. well, i dont disagree with that simplified analysis, but its overly simplified because you arent in archon 100% of the time--
When running archon, you really want to be doing it such that you actually are in archon nearly 100% of the time, just so you know. If it takes too long to kill/find things to keep archon mode active, it's likely that some other build would be better to run instead.
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On November 02 2012 05:30 Juissi wrote:
My scoundrel has bow with cold damage so he slows all the mobs for me with the multishots.
Yes that's pretty much the same w/ the Buriza the only difference is Buriza has the 70% pierce so it not only slows the initial people it hits. It also slows the mobs behind it..and behind them...because of the piercing action is usually slows 90% of the mobs I come into contact w/ which is extremely nice.
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On November 02 2012 06:25 IcedteaSC2 wrote:First off are the rings I have even worth it? I play for fun but trying to do higher mp levels. Or should I just focus on upgrading bracers and shoulders? HeroThank you
The shoulders can be upgraded super easily....I think you can even find vile wards w/ around 180+ int w/out vit for around 1mil I am not sure of your budget but those can be golden if you wanted to just up a little bit of dps.
I like the tal's source it has AP on crit. Your build needs AP on crit if your going to continue using Blizzard.
-You could use a new helm. I am not a fan personally of andariels because of the fire dmg taken + no AR but it is unmatched when it comes to dps boost.
-I dont like lacuni unless it's very high end lacuni I believe you can find so much better bracers.
-I am not a big fan of your belt if you wanted to go more survival you can upgrade these. If not witching hour is always the best bet.
-You have very little vit/life in my opinion at higher MP levels this will hurt you drastically.
-I absolutely hate the wailing host ring lol. I believe a dps boost could easily come from this w/ a super cheap 2-3m ring w/ cc/cd/avg dmg
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On November 02 2012 09:38 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 10:12 dAPhREAk wrote:On November 01 2012 09:46 FallDownMarigold wrote:On October 31 2012 06:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On October 31 2012 06:29 jESUIT wrote:On October 31 2012 06:25 dAPhREAk wrote:On October 31 2012 06:21 jESUIT wrote:On October 31 2012 06:11 dAPhREAk wrote:On October 31 2012 06:08 jESUIT wrote:On October 30 2012 02:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
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life steal sucks anyways. you want life on hit. if you can get a good weapon with life on hit and crit dmg (think tens of millions) that would be the best. if you really want life steal, you can switch force weapon for blood magic. i would buy the triumvirate before anything else. i bought one for 1M that works real well for me. Hmmm life on hit is NOT the way to go for archon build...Def go life steal try and aim for above 2.5%, a crit dmg, socketed, LS weap may be out of your price range. But a weapon w/ around 900+ dps w/ lifesteal above 2.5-3% + crit dmg is relatively affordable...I've found lots of them for 500k and bought for friends who needed. dont forget the 80% reduction for life steal in inferno compared to the 0% reduction for life on hit in inferno. So let me get this straight. I do 200k+ dps in archon. Let's do the math here. 3.00% LS @ 200k dps 200,000 x .03 = 6,000 6,000 x .8(for your 80% inferno nerf) = 4,800 6,000(LS) - 4,800(NERF) = 1,200 So I would need......1,200 life on hit....to keep up w/ just 3.00% LS on my weapon. So I would have to downgrade..Multiple pieces of gear just for life on hit. To keep up w/ just 3.00% LS on my weapon...At lower levels of DPS...sure I could see where life on hit could be more viable. 3.00% LS @ 100k dps = 600 life on hit...I would still need a weapon w/ ATLEAST 600 life on hit to keep up w/ 3.00% LS. he has 50k dps. so, want to give some advice thats useful? you also did your math wrong. its 80% reducation (i.e., you get 20%, not 80%). o.O??? I gave 20% not 80% 6,000(LS) - 4,800(NERF) = 1,200 6,000 is the LS on 200k dps. 4,800(80% on NERF) - 100% - 80% = 20% ........ I was just referring to your comment on saying LS sucks anyways that's all. At his level yes LoH is more correct. yes, i edited that out before you posted. i was confused why you multipled by .8 instead of .2. regardless, you told him to get life steal, not LOH, so i am not sure why you are backtracking now. Hmmm life on hit is NOT the way to go for archon build...Def go life steal try and aim for above 2.5% It's not too confusing once you lay it out in a super simplistic way: -Life on hit is optimal for lower DPS. ~30-50K is lower DPS. -Life steal is optimal for higher DPS. ~100-200K+ is higher DPS. He's saying life steal is more optimal for archon because archon is generally pretty high DPS, unless your base DPS is straight up too low, in which case you shouldn't be running archon, period. Once your DPS is to the point where archon is a decent choice (~80-100K), you'll want to be using life steal anyway. If your DPS is so low that LOH is optimal, you shouldn't be running archon...you won't kill quickly enough to keep the 300% dmg bonus up as long. well, i dont disagree with that simplified analysis, but its overly simplified because you arent in archon 100% of the time-- When running archon, you really want to be doing it such that you actually are in archon nearly 100% of the time, just so you know. If it takes too long to kill/find things to keep archon mode active, it's likely that some other build would be better to run instead.
Or to drop MP level yes I agree fully. This is what I try to explain to people. If you ever find yourself not keeping archon up atleast 85% of the time your in too high of a MP level because by that point the build actually becomes inefficient.
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jESUIT I am using windforce for my scoundrel with SoJ with cold damage to chill (for cold blooded) and knock back the mobs and amulet with AS to fire very fast, but Burzia seems better as it, pierces (chills the mobs in the back), sometimes freezes and most importantly don't need SoJ (it has cold damage in it), so frees a slot for another Exp/MF ring, I will consider getting one, although for elites knockback from Windforce may be better (as pierce doesn't matter much) and I already kill regular mobs very fast. About the hysteria passive I'm not very sure - "Whenever you or the Scoundrel land a Critical Hit, you both will go into hysterics, increasing all damage done by 10% for 3 seconds. This effect cannot occur more than once every 6 seconds." This means it will work at most 50% of the time, and you don't make crit hits all the time, so more like 40%. this means 4% dmg increase, 3% CC for me gives me about 3.7% dps increase (with better CD it will give more, mine is not that good), but it also cause more procs for CM and regenerates archon and diamond skin more often.
Wein, Ice climbers are good, you can get MS from Tyrael's might armor, you'll lose about 100 intelligence, but will gain more All resistance, MS and 4% dmg to elites and 12-14% dmg to daemons, which IMO compensates for the intelligence, and they are not very expensive. Other good choice is Zunimassa's trail which gives more DPS and have MS, but is more expensive (and I personally don't like them aesthetically, as they are meant for witch doctor). Mempo with proper rolls is BiS for wizard, but It's VERY expensive. You can get Tal rasha's guise of Wisdom for a lot of life (your HP seems low). Look for 150+ int, 80+ Vit, 11+% to life, 5.5% CC, it'll decrease your dps, but will give a lot of life and you'll get rid of the % from fire. And it'll also give you socket which is great for helm - 25+% exp, MF or big % to life. Other choice if you prefer DPS is storm's crow, but It's not that much better than your Andariel anyway. You may consider getting Stone of Jordan ring (29%+ damage vs elites) as well, I think it'll give you more dps (vs elites) than any of your rings. I think you can get better amulet for less than 10M also. If you increase your life and all resistance (with Tyrael, tal rasha's guise and ice climbers) you may switch Prismatic armor to pinpoint barrier which will give you nice DPS boost or to Storm armor with scramble for additional damage and move speed when hit.
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