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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On October 30 2012 02:15 HornyHerring wrote: And skip LS? Can I survive without it? life steal sucks anyways. you want life on hit. if you can get a good weapon with life on hit and crit dmg (think tens of millions) that would be the best. if you really want life steal, you can switch force weapon for blood magic. i would buy the triumvirate before anything else. i bought one for 1M that works real well for me. | ||
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alQahira
United States511 Posts
On October 29 2012 22:10 HornyHerring wrote: So... What to buy now? http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HornyHerring-1491/hero/143839 18 mill in the bank | ||
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Zen5034
United States384 Posts
On October 29 2012 12:30 dAPhREAk wrote: get crit chance / crit dmg rings. they are cheap. will up your dps a lot.... you have a lot of int. much more than me and i handle diablo fine. I get the feeling like it's my spec rather than my damage that is the problem. Thanks for the tip though; I'll look for those rings and try to adjust my build. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i47.tinypic.com/20tm3q1.jpg) obv a sick 10k dps upgrade over my old one. just not 100% sure yet if ill keep it since for a broke guy that came back to d3 1 week ago the 300m compareable ones cost in the ah would be enough to push my sorc to 150k+ dps and my barb viable. but by far best thing i ever found so using it would be nice as well btw how does the tal rasha set bonus work? | ||
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momothedog
Austria9 Posts
but congratulations on the very nice item! if u keep playing wizard u want this amulet as absolute BiS, keep it and find another worthy item | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On October 30 2012 09:14 TheDougler wrote: Hey guys, sorry if there's a better place to post this. I'm just getting back into the game after not playing since June, what's the best build for a more or less fresh 60 wizard that just want's to gear up for now? http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bmXjSO!bfg!ccaacc modified version of kiwikaki's scrambler build from earlier in this thread. i dont have the dps, AR, vit to run his build, which is far superior for speed. im thinking of switching out blood magic because i found a loh amulet last night, but need to test survivability. if you dont have enough dps for archon, i used arcane orb/poison hydra before i switched to an archon build. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On October 30 2012 09:21 dAPhREAk wrote: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bmXjSO!bfg!ccaacc modified version of kiwikaki's scrambler build from earlier in this thread. i dont have the dps, AR, vit to run his build, which is far superior for speed. im thinking of switching out blood magic because i found a loh amulet last night, but need to test survivability. if you dont have enough dps for archon, i used arcane orb/poison hydra before i switched to an archon build. Awesome, thanks. Yeah I saw that build (and raised an eyebrow at how badass Kiwi is at this game) I like this version, I'm a fan of archon builds for sure. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
or should i just hope for money longterm and get a tal rasha chest? but they are damn expensive with ar.... weapon should be my top priority now but finding a int,lifesteal,socket,50+crit dmg black weapon with 900 dps plus is hard enough,having the money for it even harder ;P ( zuni boots without ar are cheap,it wouldnt hurt me much to lose the 15 ar from my firewalkers) | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
TL;DR -- Higher DPS, lifesteal. Lower DPS, life on hit. Attack speed also plays a smaller role in deciding which to use...but mostly DPS. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:33 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: is getting Zunimassa stuff worth it? im considering getting rid of my firewalkers and getting the boots instead and when i have the money the chest. or should i just hope for money longterm and get a tal rasha chest? but they are damn expensive with ar.... weapon should be my top priority now but finding a int,lifesteal,socket,50+crit dmg black weapon with 900 dps plus is hard enough,having the money for it even harder ;P ( zuni boots without ar are cheap,it wouldnt hurt me much to lose the 15 ar from my firewalkers) edit: misread. zuni boots and ring are recommended BIS. i am trying to get the boots now, but with AR they are 10M+. been watching awhile to get them. | ||
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KiWiKaKi
Canada691 Posts
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Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
On October 30 2012 02:10 HornyHerring wrote: Okaj, trimvirate seems like the way too go. Not so sure about the other two recommendations. Blackthorne pants are pretty expensive and would decrease my armor, vit for a slight increase in vit and 400 loh. Is that worth 10kk+? Stormcrow seems to be the same - will surely get some dmg, but loosing AR. Are you sure that this is the way too go? It's simple, if you are to continue running CM/CC build with the damage you'll be outputting you really really want LOH, because the LS and LOH together will make one more option available to you, which is Diamond Shards. That spell alone will almost double your damage output, making your LS better and the reason it will be viable is because of the LOH. 900 LOH from blackthorne and stormcrow (which also has the 8% dmg passive, which is really really hard to beat with any other helm I traded a helmet worth 20+mil for a stormcrow for 2mil and the second gave me 6% more dmg and loh), buy the cheapest crappiest one you can find for no money at all and see your damage increase way more than you'd expect. Also then again, get one better ring, see if you can afford a unity ring (300 loh), it's perfect for your build. Lacuni is simply a waste of money for CM/CC build imo, for archon it's very relevant tho if you don't run Tyraels or Innas. Also a benefit of having the exact items you will after this is that you can run both CM/CC build perfectly and archon on mp0-1 as well when you feel like it. For other posts, zunimassa is great shoes if you have a black weapon, however the ring is not worth the money there are a lot better cheaper options out there for the stat bonus. Edit: Didn't you have another weapon than slorak's before? If so use it, didn't it have like 1k damage and +min +max dmg and crit? Or was it just me being blind, that weapon anyhow would be 10x better. However your attack speed etc is nice. Edit3: So I suppose now you actually should maybe keep it, I'd get blackthorne's pants and new rings with LOH and crit and switch to diamond shards, you will notice a huge improvement in performance overall. Edit2: Heard that they fixed Triumvirate so it doesn't base of min damage but avg damage now, so keep that in mind for those using it. | ||
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Jaxx
Slovakia758 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:46 dAPhREAk wrote: edit: misread. zuni boots and ring are recommended BIS. i am trying to get the boots now, but with AR they are 10M+. been watching awhile to get them. got some decent 185int/8% boots for 4m yesterday. instant 5k dmg increase. they look way worse then my old firewalkers but hey :> also got lucky and managed to improve my weapon by 25dps,else same stats but BLACK. sudden 22k dmg increase, now at 150k dps! had to invest all my gold into the last bit since i was broke at that moment but 22k dmg for 2.5m + selling the old weapon for ~5m is a very lucky deal ~~ On October 30 2012 21:25 Jaxx wrote: What build do you guys use for higher MP ubers? Normally I run archon @ 130k dps, but thats of course not viable here, I tried arcane hydra+arcane orb, but wasn't too happy with it. Is CM/WW the only way to go? hydra/orb sucks. bad. tried it on my first high mp and it was a baaad expirience. now i just run archon with nova instead of sparkflint. worked fine so far ;> | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
On October 30 2012 12:10 Yttrasil wrote: It's simple, if you are to continue running CM/CC build with the damage you'll be outputting you really really want LOH, because the LS and LOH together will make one more option available to you, which is Diamond Shards. That spell alone will almost double your damage output, making your LS better and the reason it will be viable is because of the LOH. 900 LOH from blackthorne and stormcrow (which also has the 8% dmg passive, which is really really hard to beat with any other helm I traded a helmet worth 20+mil for a stormcrow for 2mil and the second gave me 6% more dmg and loh), buy the cheapest crappiest one you can find for no money at all and see your damage increase way more than you'd expect. Also then again, get one better ring, see if you can afford a unity ring (300 loh), it's perfect for your build. Lacuni is simply a waste of money for CM/CC build imo, for archon it's very relevant tho if you don't run Tyraels or Innas. Also a benefit of having the exact items you will after this is that you can run both CM/CC build perfectly and archon on mp0-1 as well when you feel like it. For other posts, zunimassa is great shoes if you have a black weapon, however the ring is not worth the money there are a lot better cheaper options out there for the stat bonus. Edit: Didn't you have another weapon than slorak's before? If so use it, didn't it have like 1k damage and +min +max dmg and crit? Or was it just me being blind, that weapon anyhow would be 10x better. However your attack speed etc is nice. Edit3: So I suppose now you actually should maybe keep it, I'd get blackthorne's pants and new rings with LOH and crit and switch to diamond shards, you will notice a huge improvement in performance overall. Edit2: Heard that they fixed Triumvirate so it doesn't base of min damage but avg damage now, so keep that in mind for those using it. Yea, I kinda did some shopping to realiza that some people giving me tips in this thread are struggling with their gear as well, so I wasted some cash, it'd seem. Well, this build(ww permafreeze whatever) is boring as fuck anyway, gonna try to find a way to switch to something else. Still got 18 in the bank. | ||
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KiWiKaKi
Canada691 Posts
On October 30 2012 21:25 Jaxx wrote: What build do you guys use for higher MP ubers? Normally I run archon @ 130k dps, but thats of course not viable here, I tried arcane hydra+arcane orb, but wasn't too happy with it. Is CM/WW the only way to go? For ubers, I use the same archon build but I switch teleport rune on archon with pure power (100 seconds cooldown) Also i replace glass cannon with evocation for an addition -15% on cooldown and i switch galvanizing ward with paralysis so I can stun the bosses like crazy using living lightning which also reset the cooldown of archon. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:25 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: got some decent 185int/8% boots for 4m yesterday. instant 5k dmg increase. they look way worse then my old firewalkers but hey :> also got lucky and managed to improve my weapon by 25dps,else same stats but BLACK. sudden 22k dmg increase, now at 150k dps! had to invest all my gold into the last bit since i was broke at that moment but 22k dmg for 2.5m + selling the old weapon for ~5m is a very lucky deal ~~ hydra/orb sucks. bad. tried it on my first high mp and it was a baaad expirience. now i just run archon with nova instead of sparkflint. worked fine so far ;> congrats at the buy. do those have AR? i have been waiting for boots with AR to sell less than 10M. got sick of it though and bought a tal rasha's helm instead. now i have to build up my money again. | ||
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jESUIT
United States151 Posts
On October 30 2012 02:19 dAPhREAk wrote: life steal sucks anyways. you want life on hit. if you can get a good weapon with life on hit and crit dmg (think tens of millions) that would be the best. if you really want life steal, you can switch force weapon for blood magic. i would buy the triumvirate before anything else. i bought one for 1M that works real well for me. Hmmm life on hit is NOT the way to go for archon build...Def go life steal try and aim for above 2.5%, a crit dmg, socketed, LS weap may be out of your price range. But a weapon w/ around 900+ dps w/ lifesteal above 2.5-3% + crit dmg is relatively affordable...I've found lots of them for 500k and bought for friends who needed. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:08 jESUIT wrote: Hmmm life on hit is NOT the way to go for archon build...Def go life steal try and aim for above 2.5%, a crit dmg, socketed, LS weap may be out of your price range. But a weapon w/ around 900+ dps w/ lifesteal above 2.5-3% + crit dmg is relatively affordable...I've found lots of them for 500k and bought for friends who needed. dont forget the 80% reduction for life steal in inferno compared to the 0% reduction for life on hit in inferno. | ||
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