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ximae
Profile Joined January 2011
181 Posts
October 25 2012 16:38 GMT
#3901
guys, for you who are interested in cm/ww build you should read the following post on battle.net forums regarding aps and cc relation to energy twister.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6794871641

Basically energy twister ticks have direct relationship to your attacks per second, there is a complete list of aps per tick in there, and there are certain breakpoints where there is a jump in ticks which translates to more loh return, more cm procs and more apoc return.

So if you want to roll just on 2 apoc sources you should be going with 2.74 aps and around 50%cc. It really starts shining when you get there.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 25 2012 17:09 GMT
#3902
On October 25 2012 19:30 jESUIT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 12:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
i dont have loh or life steal on my char, and i use an archon build. the only elites i have trouble with are reflect damage. is magic weapon/blood magic effective?



get a life steal weap...

thats not terribly helpful since i cant afford a better weapon. the one i am using is beyond my price range and is a loaner.
ximae
Profile Joined January 2011
181 Posts
October 25 2012 17:18 GMT
#3903
just do sopme ah lurking and sniping, ive bought some very nice weapons for around 6-8 mill.
jESUIT
Profile Joined October 2012
United States151 Posts
October 25 2012 18:07 GMT
#3904
On October 26 2012 02:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 19:30 jESUIT wrote:
On October 25 2012 12:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
i dont have loh or life steal on my char, and i use an archon build. the only elites i have trouble with are reflect damage. is magic weapon/blood magic effective?



get a life steal weap...

thats not terribly helpful since i cant afford a better weapon. the one i am using is beyond my price range and is a loaner.


Ive bought pleanty of weapons for friends that are 1h w/ 800-900 dps + crit dmg + life steal...just doesn't have a socket....You won't be wrecking things with like 150k+ dps...but you most certaintly can afford a decent weap w/ life steal for under 1m...
200k dps CM/WW Wiz https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 // GM Protoss
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 25 2012 18:16 GMT
#3905
okay, thanks for the advice of buying a weapon, better gear, etc. i'll take that into consideration.

now, does anyone want to answer the question i asked: is magic weapon/blood magic effective with an archon build? with the new patch supposedly fixing blood magic for archon, the d3 forums say its the "new thing" and there is a lot of good press for it. i have tried it out and am still having issues with reflect damage mobs. 1.5 life steal (nerfed in inferno) just doesnt seem all that much.
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
October 25 2012 18:29 GMT
#3906
I've been messing with archon a bit and at 125k dps buffed with about 800 LoH and the 1.5 lifesteal from the rune I can usually kill the reflect damage elites before they kill me on MP 1. Without the lifesteal I die too quickly, so it does help, but if you don't have some other source of lifegain I don't think it is sufficient.

Even then, sometimes I'll have to kill one of them, run in grab he health globe, then resume killing the rest.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
October 25 2012 19:31 GMT
#3907
Blood magic isn't enough by itself of you want to be dealing with MP3/4+. You want near 3LS and at least 100k dps for that. If you already have, say, 1-2LS on a weap, then by all means use blood magic to get up to around 3LS. With ~2.5 it's do-able, but with only 1.5LS on MP3/4+ an around 100k+ dps it won't be enough to crush reflect packs, nor facetank phasebeast elite packs.

On MP1 or something it may be effective to use blood magic alone, or less than 1.5-2LS overall. If your question is simple whether or not blood magic was patched to work with archon, the simple answer is yes. It's posted in the patch notes which you should check out anyway for other update info
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
October 25 2012 22:23 GMT
#3908
On October 26 2012 03:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
okay, thanks for the advice of buying a weapon, better gear, etc. i'll take that into consideration.

now, does anyone want to answer the question i asked: is magic weapon/blood magic effective with an archon build? with the new patch supposedly fixing blood magic for archon, the d3 forums say its the "new thing" and there is a lot of good press for it. i have tried it out and am still having issues with reflect damage mobs. 1.5 life steal (nerfed in inferno) just doesnt seem all that much.


I use blood magic with 115k dps 40k hp and 650 all res and I can very handily farm a4 / a5 with that. I also have a litany and a wailing host, I suppose those help a little, and my dodge is around 25% because dex is my favorite "redundant" stat.

I only die to reflect if the elite type is hard and I am lazy. If I'm actually paying attention things need to get really sticky, like jailed on top of something nasty surrounded by more bad stuff.

No life steal on my gigantic ass 1370 dps fat crit damage Skorn with 500 int and 250 dex that I got for a hilarious 35 million.

If you're relatively broke, getting a Skorn with high damage int + dex and using blood magic is incredibly cost effective.
IcedteaDota
Profile Joined January 2011
223 Posts
October 27 2012 18:57 GMT
#3909
Hey guys pretty new to the diablo 3 world(although I bought when it came out error 37)... I have been playing for fun kinda messing around not really reading forums on the best build and equipment. Just found an item and ones similar sell for about 125mil. I would rather not waste it.

Let me know what I should improve on. I plan on keep the spells I have now. Still playing for fun.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/IcedTea-1393/hero/1220430

And maybe not just like buy better boots but if you could recommend something that would be great!

Thank you!
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
October 27 2012 19:49 GMT
#3910
Your source is the easiest thing to upgrade. You can find ones with similar stats, but WAY better base damage. You could easily increase your survivability by looking for a chest with vitality on it in addition to all resists, or you could bump your damage a lot by getting tal rasha's chest. Your belt is also missing vitality, which could help your survivability.

If it was me, I would sell the depth diggers for 100 million or whatever they are worth and use the money to upgrade everything else, but that is obviously up to you.

Good luck!
IcedteaDota
Profile Joined January 2011
223 Posts
October 27 2012 21:36 GMT
#3911
Thank you!
Zen5034
Profile Joined July 2011
United States384 Posts
October 29 2012 02:42 GMT
#3912
Hello, would really appreciate some suggestions; I can't seem to take Diablo on at all:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zen5034-1241/hero/6223873

I only have about 600K to work with though... is this something I just need to grind out and get gold? Hope not. x_X
Jaedong!
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 29 2012 03:30 GMT
#3913
On October 29 2012 11:42 Zen5034 wrote:
Hello, would really appreciate some suggestions; I can't seem to take Diablo on at all:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zen5034-1241/hero/6223873

I only have about 600K to work with though... is this something I just need to grind out and get gold? Hope not. x_X

get crit chance / crit dmg rings. they are cheap. will up your dps a lot.... you have a lot of int. much more than me and i handle diablo fine.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
October 29 2012 13:10 GMT
#3914
So... What to buy now?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HornyHerring-1491/hero/143839

18 mill in the bank
oh, hai
mancomputerman
Profile Joined May 2010
United States36 Posts
October 29 2012 13:39 GMT
#3915
On October 29 2012 22:10 HornyHerring wrote:
So... What to buy now?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HornyHerring-1491/hero/143839

18 mill in the bank


Rings, CC goes up to 6% now on rings. You can also add in some with damage and keep the intel up.
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
October 29 2012 14:55 GMT
#3916
On October 29 2012 22:10 HornyHerring wrote:
So... What to buy now?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HornyHerring-1491/hero/143839

18 mill in the bank


Easy, a triumvirate. Going to give you basically a pure 20% damage increase or similar since they way it works, very well with your current weapon and get it with ap on crit ofc, min damage more important than max damage on it. Secondly as you run cc/cm I'd get blackthorne pants and a stormcrow as they both have loh, you'll gain 900 loh just like that and stormcrow gives 8% dmg increase in the same way as triumvirate. After that, you should get rings as person above said, very easy and cheap to get better ones, or one while you get hellfire ring.
Meh
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
October 29 2012 15:55 GMT
#3917
my profil

after the last patch, i was unhappy, my DPS wwas bad, and my tornado/perma freeze build dont worked anymore.

weeks later, it all change with 3 lucky drop.
first : amu : 21-54 dmg, 7.5% cc 269 Int + 9K Dps.
second ; triumvirate : +11K Dps (it was a surprise, since my old source got better damage and critique)
third ; tyrael might + 10K dps.

and i buy a stormcrow, because it was really cheap.

i'm now a 89 K dps buffed, running archonte build.

I cant find good boots with all i need (Mouvement + pickup radius + vitality + int) I got other boot with high Int, but without movement speed, it's unusable.
I also change my weapons for a lower DPS one, but with 2.9 lifesteal to kill reflect dmg elite, now i cant find a better one with 2.9 (at least) lifesteal.

I really need more Health too. but I can now run in Higher MP within a group, or rushing MP0 to xp/loot very fast.

on this subject, i got a question, do you find more Leg on higher MP level ?
I usually make 1 or 2 leg in a full act 3 run in MP0 (starting at the first quest, to kill azmodan, clearing everything) (yesterday i got 5 in one game), but i almost never find Leg in higher MP (4/5 for farming key)


LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
October 29 2012 17:10 GMT
#3918
On October 29 2012 23:55 Yttrasil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 22:10 HornyHerring wrote:
So... What to buy now?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HornyHerring-1491/hero/143839

18 mill in the bank


Easy, a triumvirate. Going to give you basically a pure 20% damage increase or similar since they way it works, very well with your current weapon and get it with ap on crit ofc, min damage more important than max damage on it. Secondly as you run cc/cm I'd get blackthorne pants and a stormcrow as they both have loh, you'll gain 900 loh just like that and stormcrow gives 8% dmg increase in the same way as triumvirate. After that, you should get rings as person above said, very easy and cheap to get better ones, or one while you get hellfire ring.

Okaj, trimvirate seems like the way too go. Not so sure about the other two recommendations. Blackthorne pants are pretty expensive and would decrease my armor, vit for a slight increase in vit and 400 loh. Is that worth 10kk+? Stormcrow seems to be the same - will surely get some dmg, but loosing AR. Are you sure that this is the way too go?
oh, hai
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 29 2012 17:12 GMT
#3919
On October 30 2012 02:10 HornyHerring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 23:55 Yttrasil wrote:
On October 29 2012 22:10 HornyHerring wrote:
So... What to buy now?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HornyHerring-1491/hero/143839

18 mill in the bank


Easy, a triumvirate. Going to give you basically a pure 20% damage increase or similar since they way it works, very well with your current weapon and get it with ap on crit ofc, min damage more important than max damage on it. Secondly as you run cc/cm I'd get blackthorne pants and a stormcrow as they both have loh, you'll gain 900 loh just like that and stormcrow gives 8% dmg increase in the same way as triumvirate. After that, you should get rings as person above said, very easy and cheap to get better ones, or one while you get hellfire ring.

Okaj, trimvirate seems like the way too go. Not so sure about the other two recommendations. Blackthorne pants are pretty expensive and would decrease my armor, vit for a slight increase in vit and 400 loh. Is that worth 10kk+? Stormcrow seems to be the same - will surely get some dmg, but loosing AR. Are you sure that this is the way too go?

i'd get a weapon with crit dmg and a socket. make sure its a black weapon if you are going for a triumvirate (which i recommend as well) for full effect.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
October 29 2012 17:15 GMT
#3920
On October 30 2012 02:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 02:10 HornyHerring wrote:
On October 29 2012 23:55 Yttrasil wrote:
On October 29 2012 22:10 HornyHerring wrote:
So... What to buy now?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HornyHerring-1491/hero/143839

18 mill in the bank


Easy, a triumvirate. Going to give you basically a pure 20% damage increase or similar since they way it works, very well with your current weapon and get it with ap on crit ofc, min damage more important than max damage on it. Secondly as you run cc/cm I'd get blackthorne pants and a stormcrow as they both have loh, you'll gain 900 loh just like that and stormcrow gives 8% dmg increase in the same way as triumvirate. After that, you should get rings as person above said, very easy and cheap to get better ones, or one while you get hellfire ring.

Okaj, trimvirate seems like the way too go. Not so sure about the other two recommendations. Blackthorne pants are pretty expensive and would decrease my armor, vit for a slight increase in vit and 400 loh. Is that worth 10kk+? Stormcrow seems to be the same - will surely get some dmg, but loosing AR. Are you sure that this is the way too go?

i'd get a weapon with crit dmg and a socket. make sure its a black weapon if you are going for a triumvirate (which i recommend as well) for full effect.

And skip LS? Can I survive without it?
oh, hai
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