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Soulmate
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Japan138 Posts
June 19 2012 17:15 GMT
#341
My main character is level 51 at the beginning of Hell.
Nightmare was easy but even zombies hit pretty hard in hell. I'll probably try to get level 52 so I can change the rune on revenge.
It finally feels like I'm playing the game. Leveling from normal to hell is boring/a pain.
SCPhineas
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands119 Posts
June 19 2012 20:31 GMT
#342
Wow, just read 1.03 patch notes and I feel like enrage timers on bosses are going to make hardcore really really hard.
Also molten jailer desecrator fast Warden, what? Good thing he has little health i guess...
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 00:04:26
June 20 2012 00:02 GMT
#343
On June 20 2012 05:31 SCPhineas wrote:
Wow, just read 1.03 patch notes and I feel like enrage timers on bosses are going to make hardcore really really hard.
Also molten jailer desecrator fast Warden, what? Good thing he has little health i guess...

yep actually it should be way way harder now than when kripp and krippi did it. I dont think it will be possible for anyone now for a LOOONG time. Killing Belial phase 3 in under 3 mins? Siegebreaker in under 4? Gotta be kidding me.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 00:19:08
June 20 2012 00:11 GMT
#344
On June 20 2012 09:02 diehilde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 05:31 SCPhineas wrote:
Wow, just read 1.03 patch notes and I feel like enrage timers on bosses are going to make hardcore really really hard.
Also molten jailer desecrator fast Warden, what? Good thing he has little health i guess...

yep actually it should be way way harder now than when kripp and krippi did it. I dont think it will be possible for anyone now for a LOOONG time. Killing Belial phase 3 in under 3 mins? Siegebreaker in under 4? Gotta be kidding me.

Not to mention no wizard exploit self heal which saved krippi big time.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
June 20 2012 00:30 GMT
#345
On June 20 2012 09:11 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 09:02 diehilde wrote:
On June 20 2012 05:31 SCPhineas wrote:
Wow, just read 1.03 patch notes and I feel like enrage timers on bosses are going to make hardcore really really hard.
Also molten jailer desecrator fast Warden, what? Good thing he has little health i guess...

yep actually it should be way way harder now than when kripp and krippi did it. I dont think it will be possible for anyone now for a LOOONG time. Killing Belial phase 3 in under 3 mins? Siegebreaker in under 4? Gotta be kidding me.

Not to mention no wizard exploit self heal which saved krippi big time.

well tbh the changes in act 2,3 and 4 wont matter in hc anyways. Warden with guaranteed Fast, Jailer, Molten, Desecrator?? Good luck with that one lol ^^ Blizz sure knows how to troll us hc players.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
June 20 2012 20:22 GMT
#346
Hardcore + Auction House:

I was playing Hardcore, my first d3 hardcore character and just cruising along and then I decided to look at the AH. I'll be honest, items overall seem too cheap, I bought some and now I'm kind of regretting it, feels a little less fun / hard right now (I'm still in mid-hell). So weird that I can put any gem in a weapon and still use it (it says level requirement, but doesn't enforce on the item). It also feels weird that it doesn't make sense to salvage items for recipe items as they're mostly cheaper at the AH than the items I would salvage would sell for.

I think the most disappointing thing is that even with items I just bought for gold I feel like it's literally impossible for me to find better items from drops right now than what I'm wearing and that's always what provided the most thrill for me in d2 and d3. I wish I could go back to a world where I could un-know how cheap things were at the auction house. Ignorance is bliss.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
June 20 2012 21:20 GMT
#347
On June 20 2012 09:11 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 09:02 diehilde wrote:
On June 20 2012 05:31 SCPhineas wrote:
Wow, just read 1.03 patch notes and I feel like enrage timers on bosses are going to make hardcore really really hard.
Also molten jailer desecrator fast Warden, what? Good thing he has little health i guess...

yep actually it should be way way harder now than when kripp and krippi did it. I dont think it will be possible for anyone now for a LOOONG time. Killing Belial phase 3 in under 3 mins? Siegebreaker in under 4? Gotta be kidding me.

Not to mention no wizard exploit self heal which saved krippi big time.


He built that with the intent to depend on it though. It doesn't mean he would have died without it because he would take different measures to stay alive.

And Belial in under 3 minutes is doable. I did it last night on a WD with ~22k DPS unbuffed. I wouldn't attempt it on HC with that kind of gear though. Phase 1 and 2 are also a pretty big joke now.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
June 21 2012 07:45 GMT
#348
so how many people have killed diablo on inferno hardcore now that the nerfs got put in?
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
June 21 2012 07:49 GMT
#349
On June 21 2012 06:20 Greggle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 09:11 Ryps wrote:
On June 20 2012 09:02 diehilde wrote:
On June 20 2012 05:31 SCPhineas wrote:
Wow, just read 1.03 patch notes and I feel like enrage timers on bosses are going to make hardcore really really hard.
Also molten jailer desecrator fast Warden, what? Good thing he has little health i guess...

yep actually it should be way way harder now than when kripp and krippi did it. I dont think it will be possible for anyone now for a LOOONG time. Killing Belial phase 3 in under 3 mins? Siegebreaker in under 4? Gotta be kidding me.

Not to mention no wizard exploit self heal which saved krippi big time.


He built that with the intent to depend on it though. It doesn't mean he would have died without it because he would take different measures to stay alive.

And Belial in under 3 minutes is doable. I did it last night on a WD with ~22k DPS unbuffed. I wouldn't attempt it on HC with that kind of gear though. Phase 1 and 2 are also a pretty big joke now.


There is no other measures to stay alive. He already had EVERYTHING he could AND hydra.

You can't reliably survive on diablo as a wizard w/o really over gearing it.
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
June 21 2012 09:40 GMT
#350
On June 21 2012 06:20 Greggle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 09:11 Ryps wrote:
On June 20 2012 09:02 diehilde wrote:
On June 20 2012 05:31 SCPhineas wrote:
Wow, just read 1.03 patch notes and I feel like enrage timers on bosses are going to make hardcore really really hard.
Also molten jailer desecrator fast Warden, what? Good thing he has little health i guess...

yep actually it should be way way harder now than when kripp and krippi did it. I dont think it will be possible for anyone now for a LOOONG time. Killing Belial phase 3 in under 3 mins? Siegebreaker in under 4? Gotta be kidding me.

Not to mention no wizard exploit self heal which saved krippi big time.


He built that with the intent to depend on it though. It doesn't mean he would have died without it because he would take different measures to stay alive.

And Belial in under 3 minutes is doable. I did it last night on a WD with ~22k DPS unbuffed. I wouldn't attempt it on HC with that kind of gear though. Phase 1 and 2 are also a pretty big joke now.


The Belial enrage is fucking ridiculous. I'm not going to be doing it on hardcore until I have 30k DPS with the same resistances I have at the moment. Doing it on softcore, Belial enrages at 5% or so with the DPS that I have on my hardcore WD, and my last try with 19k DPS procced my cheat death when Belial died. If I get hit once during the fight I'm fucking dead at the end of it, because I barely beat the enrage timer.

Seems like I'll be stuck on Act 2 for a while, unless I can get a free ride from someone in to Act 3, but then I guess I get stuck on Ghom because he's even more ridiculous than Belial is.

The game is harder pre Act 4. If I just get to Diablo I can kill him, because Diablo is a fucking joke now. The earlier bosses are harder than the last one, which blows my fucking mind. But I guess Blizzard wants to give you Inferno Hardcore for free as long as you can make it past Azmodan.
escobari
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland192 Posts
June 21 2012 20:48 GMT
#351
Well it seems like killing (low level) mobs with +exp is the fastest way to level now. Dont know if it is all "random quests" that give full xp even if you repeat it, but atlest that "defiled tomb" did.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
June 21 2012 20:56 GMT
#352
On June 21 2012 16:45 adeezy wrote:
so how many people have killed diablo on inferno hardcore now that the nerfs got put in?


0. Only 2 players did it as a team pre-patch and none have done it post-patch.
White-Ra fighting!
BaconSoup
Profile Joined January 2012
New Zealand60 Posts
June 22 2012 08:41 GMT
#353
Could someone please hook me up with the Diablo waypoint (Hell)?

Baconsoup#1616

It would be much appreciated ;-)
Win lane, Win game.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 10:36:40
June 22 2012 10:32 GMT
#354
On June 22 2012 05:56 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 16:45 adeezy wrote:
so how many people have killed diablo on inferno hardcore now that the nerfs got put in?


0. Only 2 players did it as a team pre-patch and none have done it post-patch.



are we sure none have done it post-patch(i know krip/krippi were first and only before patch), I doubt future diablo kills will be as public/important? Seems like progression is a lot easier if you have the dps/gear to avoid enrage timers if hardcore players have been farming post patch, the quality of gear will have shot up.

Sure act 3/4 drops suck now for those farming softcore, but this was a huge change for hardcore.


Anyways.. for my own progression, Im lvl 31 nightmare mode on a witch-doctor.. I also found a really really awful lvl 15 legendary chest piece and sold it for 20k, I was happy with that as it let me buy new gear before killing diablo.

Going to work my through nightmare now, got spirit vessel finally for extra safety.

Didn't come close to dying except for 1 time I got myself surrounded with spirit walk on cooldown, and

....another time on azmo, I got stuck in an infinite loop, I'd run away, rubber band, Over and over and over.. i paused game, unpaused, and kept rubber banding, right into his lazers even.. I wasn't too upset as I was just on normal, but i even paused called my girlfriend in too show her, it wouldn't let me do anything and how funny it looked.., unpaused, showed her, then decided to try spirit walk, and finally spirit walked out of it and it didnt rubber band me(about 20-30 rubber bands to the same exact spot in total, had to spirit walk to stop it from glitching), luckily im stacking vit for hardcore mode.. but ya pretty entertaining, wish I had it recorded.

Goal is to make it to act 4 hell and farm slowly, very slowly, don't plan on spending too much time a day on this, just something to do when I feel like it, I'm in no hurry, hopefully act 1 capable gear isn't tooo expensive, cause farming act 1 elites seems like a nice way to find items now for HC.(I find goblins dull)
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
June 22 2012 14:42 GMT
#355
Had a pretty big scare just before finally hitting 60 with some ghosts in the realm of shadow. Didn't seem like a scary composition at first but frozen molten vortex while they run very fast putting fire everywhere was a nightmare for my barb. On to act 3 hell for the first time working on my resists at the moment.
Doom Guy
Soulmate
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Japan138 Posts
June 22 2012 17:12 GMT
#356
I'm at the butcher in hell with my barbarian, can someone tell me if my stats are enough ? I don't have a sc barb to test and with the xp nerf, I don't feel like leveling one
Lvl 54
HP : 38k
Armor : 5332 (without cry)
Damage : 2000
No res at all :D
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
June 22 2012 17:16 GMT
#357
On June 23 2012 02:12 Soulmate wrote:
I'm at the butcher in hell with my barbarian, can someone tell me if my stats are enough ? I don't have a sc barb to test and with the xp nerf, I don't feel like leveling one
Lvl 54
HP : 38k
Armor : 5332 (without cry)
Damage : 2000
No res at all :D



Your dmg is pretty small. 2k dmg at lv 54 is a little too low. I have my barb at 53 and have 4k with 32k hp.
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
June 22 2012 17:24 GMT
#358
You should be fine for butcher. I did him around the same DPS no problems. He isn't too scary.

So who's farming gear to get ready for inferno? You farming act 3-4 hell now that the goblin has been nerfed?
DueleR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States207 Posts
June 22 2012 17:40 GMT
#359
On June 23 2012 02:12 Soulmate wrote:
I'm at the butcher in hell with my barbarian, can someone tell me if my stats are enough ? I don't have a sc barb to test and with the xp nerf, I don't feel like leveling one
Lvl 54
HP : 38k
Armor : 5332 (without cry)
Damage : 2000
No res at all :D


Maybe get a new weapon, but I don't think you should have any real problems. I had no resists when I did hell butcher either. Just run away before his big wind-up hits and don't stand in the fire.

You don't really need resists for Act2 or 3 Hell either but the margin of error starts getting smaller around this point (i.e. you have to play smart vs elite packs, and lag means almost certain death). I would start hunting the AH for allres gear and also shoot to improve your hp to around ~40-45k, DPS to 3.5-4K.
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
June 23 2012 08:52 GMT
#360
Well, they buffed some bosses but now it'll be much easier to get much better gear.
You have to take that into consideration. They had gear pretty much from act2 goblin farming. Act3 was very risky to farm and they even died doing that.

Now, you can farm act2 goblin and get much better gear which makes progression through act3-4 and bosses much easier.
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