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dottycakes
Canada548 Posts
How it works is that, Jagged Spikes ticks every half second. It has a 67% on hit multiplier, meaning it will proc .67 * your crit chance and .67 * your life on hit PER TICK PER TARGET. Now, that isn't too bad with one trap, but you can stack several Caltrops on top of each other. Factor all that in with passives that increases duration of Caltrops, 20% increase damage reduction from mobs on Caltrops, and plus 1 discipline per critical hit... you can see where this is going. | ||
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Phant
United States737 Posts
Thankfully I never had much IAS gear and a weapon without IAS so my dps only dropped from 52k to 46k (without sharpshooter). In general due to the NT nerfs, elite packs take about twice as long to kill, bosses about 3 times as long to kill. Siegebreaker is undoable with my current health pool (24k hp) and resists (around 50 to all). Mainly because with the 3 min enrage you can't regen health fast enough and do not have enough smoke screen to kill him in time. reflects damage mobs are still doable however ( i have a 650 life on hit weapon and some hp regen so i can usually take them out within 5-6 smoke screens if I get lucky with crits). I might still keep NT on though, even though the damage sucks, its ability to travel through endless amounts of targets is incredibly valuable (especially with invulnerable minion packs where the main guy hides behind his minions). Either way, I think resists and vitality is going to be mandatory if a DH wants to effectively farm without absurdly powerful gear since you can't kill things before they reach you any more. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
Trying to decide what I want to do gear and build setup wise now. Ball lightning feels like it takes too long to kill elite packs. | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
On June 20 2012 05:58 {ToT}ColmA wrote: Why not use impale for what it was designed for (single target); I am gonna wait and see what i can figure out tomorrow but probably gonna ve to invest in some different gear I might do this, with impale for single target and ball lightning for groups. ill have to get rid of rain with stampede which was nice, but not completely necessary. | ||
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chambanog
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I barely even noticed my dps going down, wtf lol The attack speed change isn't the problem though. The nerf to tentacles effectively halved or thirded damage versus most mobs in the game and crippled us even further versus extremely large enemies. People may be over reacting with the whole worst dps now, but compared to what demon hunters were doing pre-patch they're looking pretty pathetic. That is more a testament to how overpowered tentacles was though. | ||
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darkcloud8282
Canada776 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:13 Yiruru wrote: For the people that have high passive MF, what does your DPS/Other stats looking like? I'm having trouble figuring out what to upgrade =[ I run almost full MF gear while doing cydaea->azmodan runs (300+ MF with 5 stacks). My dps dropped from 51k to 47k after the patch, and I've had a much easier time with elites than bosses now. Cydaea is problematic cause they changed the spider AI to walk randomly instead of chasing you so you actually have to kill them now. I find evasive to be quite useful to killing the spiders cause of the spread and instant damage. I used cluster arrow in my first run and it was ok, but I lacked a good skill to kill Azmodan with so I had to actually run around dodging the pools. I have about 100-200 resists, 30k hp. I think I'm looking to get more all resist equip while maintaining my current stats or get better rings. | ||
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Baeksucho
France46 Posts
Cluster Arrow with Cluster bomb 50 hatred so you can only spam it twice Unleash 6 mini bombs that does 230% damage each, + the main bomb that ticks 2 to 3 times 200% damages. Total up to 1780% damage Range is pretty small compared to Nether tentacle and is not as much spammable but at 100% SS, it does some nasty damages, even more than pre-nerf Tentacles i think Grenadier passive to reduce cluster to 40 hatred instead of 50 doesn't seems worthy for this skill, it allows you to spam 3 times instead of 2 but you have to either drop sharpshooter or steady aim/archery Ball lightning vs Cluster arrow on Belial : no contest, Cluster arrow does way more damage, with 98k dps unbuff i can kill him while he is doing his second left-right arm attack (even before his aoe breath), whereas with ball lightning, i kill him while he is doing his AoE pool With your hatred pool, you can spam it twice (3 times if grenadier passive) and the delay between the 2 skills is so small that all 12+ minibombs will crit within the 1 sec sharpshooter. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
On June 20 2012 07:09 Baeksucho wrote: For those who wants an alternative to NT try this: Cluster Arrow with Cluster bomb 50 hatred so you can only spam it twice Unleash 6 mini bombs that does 230% damage each, + the main bomb that ticks 2 to 3 times 200% damages. Total up to 1780% damage Range is pretty small compared to Nether tentacle and is not as much spammable but at 100% SS, it does some nasty damages, even more than pre-nerf Tentacles i think Grenadier passive to reduce cluster to 40 hatred instead of 50 doesn't seems worthy for this skill, it allows you to spam 3 times instead of 2 but you have to either drop sharpshooter or steady aim/archery Ball lightning vs Cluster arrow on Belial : no contest, Cluster arrow does way more damage, with 98k dps unbuff i can kill him while he is doing his second left-right arm attack (even before his aoe breath), whereas with ball lightning, i kill him while he is doing his AoE pool With your hatred pool, you can spam it twice (3 times if grenadier passive) and the delay between the 2 skills is so small that all 12+ minibombs will crit within the 1 sec sharpshooter. Would you mind linking your gear or posting your stats? Really curious as to how you got 98k dps unbuffed :S I barely hit that buffed and have 3 BiS items and a decent bow. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: The attack speed change isn't the problem though. The nerf to tentacles effectively halved or thirded damage versus most mobs in the game and crippled us even further versus extremely large enemies. People may be over reacting with the whole worst dps now, but compared to what demon hunters were doing pre-patch they're looking pretty pathetic. That is more a testament to how overpowered tentacles was though. yeah noticing this now, i can kill literally nothing | ||
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Trajan98
Canada203 Posts
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
i dont get what blizz wants me to do anymore. i cant tank or do good damage, so what the hell? also, they didn't fix marked for death? its still being debuffed really quick or something. | ||
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ZerG~LegenD
Sweden1179 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
Demon hunters are now more overpowered than ever. | ||
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