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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:01 TheMango wrote: I already switched my build yesterday to evasive fire left click and cluster arrow right click, works great  Which runes would those be? Evasive fire should be the one that has an arc, right? | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
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KingOfAmerica
United States246 Posts
I was rolling a dual wield 1H Xbow (both mid 800 DPS with 80%+ crit) IAS build nether tentacling my way through Siegebreaker runs like there was no tomorrow. Trouble with elite packs still, but could 5 stack and beat Siege on average 25-35 min. Given the changes, think Siege is still optimal? Or easier farm lanes earlier on? Also random question: Has anyone ever felt or noticed that drop tables for certain section decrease the more you farm them without interruption? I track my run times and results in a spreadsheet. Over my last 40 siegebreaker runs my amount of rares found, and total quality of items has decreased steadily (and measurably). Maybe there is some mechanic that wants you to farm other areas and then come back to get better drops? Just thinking out loud, I have seen that in other games. | ||
TheMango
United States1967 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:07 andrewlt wrote: Which runes would those be? Evasive fire should be the one that has an arc, right? covering fire for evasive, loaded with bear for cluster. I was using tactical, steady aim, grenadier as passives - people are prob going wtf @ me not using archery, but I already have close to 300% crit damage w/o it, so being able to fire off 3 cluster arrows in a row is actually better 'dps' for me. My build is now 1.] spike trap scatter (still playing around with this one) 2.] ss lingering 3.] prep backup 4.] bat companion with left click evasive and right click cluster. Its much easier to deal with reflect mobs now as I SS + fire off 2-3 clusters for massive damage (like 300k+ crits) | ||
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TheMango
United States1967 Posts
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On June 20 2012 01:08 TheMango wrote: For farming runs, Im thinking about skipping as many bosses as possible (esp siege breaker with reflect, and even azmo due to the tentacle nerf) and just farming most of act3 and farming elite mobs. I think hosting a3 q7 second heart will still be the best option. Get 5 stacks, kill cydaea, kill azmo, continue farming every champ group in earlier waypoints and skip hard ones. Bosses will probably drop 2-4 rares anyway, right now with 300mf i get 4 rares in 80% of the time from bosses and 1-2 rares from champs. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
The keep levels might be more doable now, depending on how hard the soul ripper nerf was. Same thing with the optional keep-like levels like the barracks. | ||
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Ottoxlol
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
DH is still the best class. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
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TheMango
United States1967 Posts
On June 20 2012 02:12 padfoota wrote: Does Cluster Arrow actually work for any of you? Having a pool of 125 hatred and CA costing a whopping 50 feels really inefficient need either vengeance or grenadier to do 3, 4 with both of them | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On June 20 2012 02:08 Yaotzin wrote: Why should it multi hit though? If it multi hit it would need reduced damage per hit, as with BL. why should it not though? Why is it so hard to accept that one class can be overpowered at something and one class overpowered at something else? Sorc in d2 could teleport to baals throne in a second, a hammerdin could wipe out the entire wave in one second and a javazone could kill baal in one second. They needed equip for it, but they could do it. Paladins with smite could solo uber dia without equip, just with a mediocre shield while other classes could not. Yet the game was fun, wasnt it? I fucking hate the trend with every game lately that makse all classes equal. Whats the point in splitting between classes if theyre all the same just with different animations then aynway? | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On June 20 2012 02:20 Warri wrote: why should it not though? Why is it so hard to accept that one class can be overpowered at something and one class overpowered at something else? Sorc in d2 could teleport to baals throne in a second, a hammerdin could wipe out the entire wave in one second and a javazone could kill baal in one second. They needed equip for it, but they could do it. Paladins with smite could solo uber dia without equip, just with a mediocre shield while other classes could not. Yet the game was fun, wasnt it? I fucking hate the trend with every game lately that makse all classes equal. Whats the point in splitting between classes if theyre all the same just with different animations then aynway? DH is already overpowered in terms of DPS. What didn't make sense was how NT was vastly superior to even every other DH skill. Now it's simply in line with them. Surely you'd agree it's bad if a skill is so good that every single character uses it? Oh and yes, things like teleport were bad. So bad they had to make enigma to stop sorc's being the only class to farm, which then meant that everyone and their dog wore enigma. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On June 20 2012 02:20 Warri wrote: why should it not though? Why is it so hard to accept that one class can be overpowered at something and one class overpowered at something else? Sorc in d2 could teleport to baals throne in a second, a hammerdin could wipe out the entire wave in one second and a javazone could kill baal in one second. They needed equip for it, but they could do it. Paladins with smite could solo uber dia without equip, just with a mediocre shield while other classes could not. Yet the game was fun, wasnt it? I fucking hate the trend with every game lately that makse all classes equal. Whats the point in splitting between classes if theyre all the same just with different animations then aynway? This seems like a logical post (no sarcasm). I disapprove of Blizzards nerfing policy in general. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On June 20 2012 02:08 Yaotzin wrote: Why should it multi hit though? If it multi hit it would need reduced damage per hit, as with BL. It is slow, easily dodged by mobs and has a tiny hitbox. If it hits Azmodan's really fat ass for 2-3 times per shot instead of the 4-5 it did prepatch, I doubt that it will be overpowered. This is countered by the fact that if things like fallen, spiderlings, moloks and such move slightly out of the way, they won't get hit at all. Many of those type of mobs move in a zigzag kind of manner frequently, too. The other stuff that have reduced damage, like BL and the wizard lightning spell, have almost instantaneous hits. Out of that entire class, secondary skills, elemental arrow is really the only good one. The others are either very situational or plain terrible. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On June 20 2012 02:26 AntiGrav1ty wrote: This seems like a logical post (no sarcasm). I disapprove of Blizzards nerfing policy in general. NT did need to be nerfed, but they it made downright useless. Especially since 3% lifesteal doesn't actually return anywhere close to 3% life. It does the same damage as ball lightning, travels just as slow, and hits a farm smaller radius. It's utterly stupid they didn't do ANYTHING else more reasonable (increase travel time between hits, cap to 2 hits, reduce max damage to 200-250%, etc). Meanwhile our other abilities do awful damage, or cost over 1/3 of our hatred bar, or are just otherwise pretty shitty. It's not a coincidence people used ball lightning before hitting 59 for nether tentacles. Meanwhile we're still the squishest damn class by a very wide margin. Of course no plans to help bring THAT in line with other classes, I'm sure for class diversity reasons. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
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