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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
June 08 2012 22:58 GMT
#1341
On June 09 2012 03:34 Lobotomist wrote:
could someone break down why they're running vault and smokescreen? I've seen this on a number of builds, and it seems redundant to me. I could see it if you're running chests or pots, but for an actual combat build I'd rather just save the disc for another smokescreen.

against slow mob and wide open aread you don't need smokescreen disc cuz it costs more than vault. Or may be sometimes u got stuck in the corner and 1.2 sec won't be enough to escape.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 23:18:16
June 08 2012 23:17 GMT
#1342
On June 09 2012 07:58 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:34 Lobotomist wrote:
could someone break down why they're running vault and smokescreen? I've seen this on a number of builds, and it seems redundant to me. I could see it if you're running chests or pots, but for an actual combat build I'd rather just save the disc for another smokescreen.

against slow mob and wide open aread you don't need smokescreen disc cuz it costs more than vault. Or may be sometimes u got stuck in the corner and 1.2 sec won't be enough to escape.

Also my philosophy is the redundancy is what saves you most of the time. Also vaulting beats running
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
June 08 2012 23:25 GMT
#1343
How would one go about calculating dps changes with gear? I have around 7 million to spend on the AH and want to get the best bang for my buck.

I am using a 900 dps bow with 99 dex. Would a beckon sail for 2 million (currently using a 150ish dex chest) and a 982dps bow with an open socket (for 60% crit dmg gem) and 100-120 dex be good usage of that money? What kind of dps gain would I see from that?
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 08 2012 23:28 GMT
#1344
On June 09 2012 08:25 TheRabidDeer wrote:
How would one go about calculating dps changes with gear? I have around 7 million to spend on the AH and want to get the best bang for my buck.

I am using a 900 dps bow with 99 dex. Would a beckon sail for 2 million (currently using a 150ish dex chest) and a 982dps bow with an open socket (for 60% crit dmg gem) and 100-120 dex be good usage of that money? What kind of dps gain would I see from that?

I looked for the xbow with the highest dps that was blue and had strength on them 1100 for just200k
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TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
June 08 2012 23:32 GMT
#1345
On June 09 2012 08:28 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:25 TheRabidDeer wrote:
How would one go about calculating dps changes with gear? I have around 7 million to spend on the AH and want to get the best bang for my buck.

I am using a 900 dps bow with 99 dex. Would a beckon sail for 2 million (currently using a 150ish dex chest) and a 982dps bow with an open socket (for 60% crit dmg gem) and 100-120 dex be good usage of that money? What kind of dps gain would I see from that?

I looked for the xbow with the highest dps that was blue and had strength on them 1100 for just200k

Yea, but not having crit dmg bonus and no dex you lose out on a ton of dps, right?
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 23:36:38
June 08 2012 23:35 GMT
#1346
On June 09 2012 08:32 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:28 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:25 TheRabidDeer wrote:
How would one go about calculating dps changes with gear? I have around 7 million to spend on the AH and want to get the best bang for my buck.

I am using a 900 dps bow with 99 dex. Would a beckon sail for 2 million (currently using a 150ish dex chest) and a 982dps bow with an open socket (for 60% crit dmg gem) and 100-120 dex be good usage of that money? What kind of dps gain would I see from that?

I looked for the xbow with the highest dps that was blue and had strength on them 1100 for just200k

Yea, but not having crit dmg bonus and no dex you lose out on a ton of dps, right?

dex can come from else where.a long as it has high dips and a socket it doesn't matter strength makes it cheap.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
June 08 2012 23:40 GMT
#1347
Where else would you recommend I spend gold to upgrade then? It leaves me with around 4.5 million

Shoulders: 130 dex
Helm: 128 dex
Amulet: 114 dex 15% ias
Bracers: 83 dex 3% crit
Rings: 70 dex 15% ias
Belt: 136 dex
Legs: 160 dex
Boots: 164 dex 10% movement
Quiver: 81 dex, 12% ias, 7 max discipline, 5.5% crit, 1.4% stun, 3% bonus dmg vs elites
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 08 2012 23:48 GMT
#1348
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 08 2012 23:50 GMT
#1349
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 08 2012 23:51 GMT
#1350
On June 09 2012 08:50 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty

that's what someone else told me to do. only prob is diablo comes back and i have to run away from him too. then shadow clone appears out of nowhere being black and all and insta-1shots me
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 08 2012 23:52 GMT
#1351
On June 09 2012 08:40 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Where else would you recommend I spend gold to upgrade then? It leaves me with around 4.5 million

Shoulders: 130 dex
Helm: 128 dex
Amulet: 114 dex 15% ias
Bracers: 83 dex 3% crit
Rings: 70 dex 15% ias
Belt: 136 dex
Legs: 160 dex
Boots: 164 dex 10% movement
Quiver: 81 dex, 12% ias, 7 max discipline, 5.5% crit, 1.4% stun, 3% bonus dmg vs elites

Quiver and Chest with +10 Max Discipline is pretty rare but highly recommended. Basically you are looking at how long you can stay in SS. ias is nice but there are some gear with increase crit damage, crit chance itself is rather weak. well Mostly is maxing your disc while exploiting your high dps, you look rather solid right now if I may so say, a new weapon will bring you over leaps and bounds, but a nice Chest Piece (a clock usually has them) with + disc will give you more window
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 23:54:11
June 08 2012 23:53 GMT
#1352
On June 09 2012 08:51 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:50 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty

that's what someone else told me to do. only prob is diablo comes back and i have to run away from him too. then shadow clone appears out of nowhere being black and all and insta-1shots me

You just have to run from them both. I highly recommend Vault for this fight
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 08 2012 23:54 GMT
#1353
On June 09 2012 08:51 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:50 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty

that's what someone else told me to do. only prob is diablo comes back and i have to run away from him too. then shadow clone appears out of nowhere being black and all and insta-1shots me


You have to learn the timings for when it is summoned. The window to smokescreen is very tiny.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 08 2012 23:54 GMT
#1354
On June 09 2012 08:53 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:51 redtooth wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:50 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty

that's what someone else told me to do. only prob is diablo comes back and i have to run away from him too. then shadow clone appears out of nowhere being black and all and insta-1shots me

You just have to run from them both.

have you tried it?

what you're basically telling me to do is "pray for a good break". unfortunately i was born under an unlucky star so it'll never happen. so what's the plan b other people are using.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 23:55:05
June 08 2012 23:54 GMT
#1355
On June 09 2012 08:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:51 redtooth wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:50 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty

that's what someone else told me to do. only prob is diablo comes back and i have to run away from him too. then shadow clone appears out of nowhere being black and all and insta-1shots me


You have to learn the timings for when it is summoned. The window to smokescreen is very tiny.

It was 100% 75% 50% and 25% right? I can't seem to recall
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 08 2012 23:55 GMT
#1356
On June 09 2012 08:54 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:53 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:51 redtooth wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:50 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty

that's what someone else told me to do. only prob is diablo comes back and i have to run away from him too. then shadow clone appears out of nowhere being black and all and insta-1shots me

You just have to run from them both.

have you tried it?

what you're basically telling me to do is "pray for a good break". unfortunately i was born under an unlucky star so it'll never happen. so what's the plan b other people are using.

It's a very small window but basically you're ss into vault and tumble vault. and then running.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 08 2012 23:56 GMT
#1357
On June 09 2012 08:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:51 redtooth wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:50 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty

that's what someone else told me to do. only prob is diablo comes back and i have to run away from him too. then shadow clone appears out of nowhere being black and all and insta-1shots me


You have to learn the timings for when it is summoned. The window to smokescreen is very tiny.

i don't think you understood me. i can get away from it fine at first. the problem is diablo comes back before the 60 seconds are up and you have 2 people on a small field who can 1shot you and blend into the background perfectly. the bigger problem is that the clone is a DH and will shoot you from far away (so far it's 80% of the time been from below where the goddam UI is taking up a third of my screen).

seriously phase 1 is ezpz. phase 2 diablo is ezpz too. fucking shadow clone fuckfuckfuckfuck.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#1358
On June 09 2012 08:56 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:51 redtooth wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:50 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty

that's what someone else told me to do. only prob is diablo comes back and i have to run away from him too. then shadow clone appears out of nowhere being black and all and insta-1shots me


You have to learn the timings for when it is summoned. The window to smokescreen is very tiny.

i don't think you understood me. i can get away from it fine at first. the problem is diablo comes back before the 60 seconds are up and you have 2 people on a small field who can 1shot you and blend into the background perfectly. the bigger problem is that the clone is a DH and will shoot you from far away (so far it's 80% of the time been from below where the goddam UI is taking up a third of my screen).

seriously phase 1 is ezpz. phase 2 diablo is ezpz too. fucking shadow clone fuckfuckfuckfuck.

Shadow clones are the worst of it. Overcome it and thou shall triumph! What skill set are you using?
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 09 2012 00:06 GMT
#1359
On June 09 2012 09:04 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 08:56 redtooth wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:51 redtooth wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:50 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty

that's what someone else told me to do. only prob is diablo comes back and i have to run away from him too. then shadow clone appears out of nowhere being black and all and insta-1shots me


You have to learn the timings for when it is summoned. The window to smokescreen is very tiny.

i don't think you understood me. i can get away from it fine at first. the problem is diablo comes back before the 60 seconds are up and you have 2 people on a small field who can 1shot you and blend into the background perfectly. the bigger problem is that the clone is a DH and will shoot you from far away (so far it's 80% of the time been from below where the goddam UI is taking up a third of my screen).

seriously phase 1 is ezpz. phase 2 diablo is ezpz too. fucking shadow clone fuckfuckfuckfuck.

Shadow clones are the worst of it. Overcome it and thou shall triumph! What skill set are you using?

SS/linger
companion/bat
prep/backup
vault/acrobatics
hunger/puncture
elem/nether

tact
steady
archery

58k dps
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 09 2012 00:10 GMT
#1360
On June 09 2012 09:06 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 09:04 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:56 redtooth wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:51 redtooth wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:50 Blasterion wrote:
On June 09 2012 08:48 redtooth wrote:
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with shadow clone?

Hi redtooth, good games we had a couple nights ago, Belial was hard. Anyways for shadow clone, You run around like the little girl you are until it despawns. Aprox 60s or so.

Happy Demon Hunting
-Love Blasty

that's what someone else told me to do. only prob is diablo comes back and i have to run away from him too. then shadow clone appears out of nowhere being black and all and insta-1shots me


You have to learn the timings for when it is summoned. The window to smokescreen is very tiny.

i don't think you understood me. i can get away from it fine at first. the problem is diablo comes back before the 60 seconds are up and you have 2 people on a small field who can 1shot you and blend into the background perfectly. the bigger problem is that the clone is a DH and will shoot you from far away (so far it's 80% of the time been from below where the goddam UI is taking up a third of my screen).

seriously phase 1 is ezpz. phase 2 diablo is ezpz too. fucking shadow clone fuckfuckfuckfuck.

Shadow clones are the worst of it. Overcome it and thou shall triumph! What skill set are you using?

SS/linger
companion/bat
prep/backup
vault/acrobatics
hunger/puncture
elem/nether

tact
steady
archery

58k dps

I highly recommend Tumble over Acro here, it gives you some extra distance that you can cover even if it costs Disc the availability of a movement invoker helps alot.
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