Demon Hunter - Builds/Discussion - Page 67

On June 08 2012 23:07 superbabosheki wrote:
Those stats make me cringe. He takes 5 times longer to clear mobs than he needs to and probably dies more despite having high vit.

On June 08 2012 13:26 starfries wrote:

It's expensive to progress, but you only have to go through the tough areas once. Most of the time you'll be making money by farming areas where you're comfortable, so you shouldn't die very much then.

On June 08 2012 22:59 FliedLice wrote:
Those stats seem worse than mine and I'm scared shitless of going past the Siegebreaker because I'm going to get utterly raped down there... :|

On June 08 2012 23:31 andrewlt wrote:



My dps is higher than that as well. I tried doing the keep quests to take a break from Siegebreaker runs and got a champion/unique soul ripper pack every time in keep level 1. I must've tried clearing it 10 times before giving up. They were blocking the path but were too far away from the stairs to level 2 for me just to make a run at it.

Are those damn things guaranteed to get a champion/unique pack on that level?

On June 08 2012 22:59 FliedLice wrote:
Those stats seem worse than mine and I'm scared shitless of going past the Siegebreaker because I'm going to get utterly raped down there... :|

On June 08 2012 23:46 starfries wrote:

His DPS is worse than mine for sure, but I'm curious whether the defensive stats make that big a difference.

Derez, I'd like to see a screenshot of his other stats too. Can he survive a charge from an elite oppressor (or even a normal one)? It seems like a huge pain to take down a pack of those if he can't, but I've never heard of a DH surviving one.

On June 09 2012 00:02 SagaZ wrote:
So any tip or general start to beat belial on inferno?
I had to die like 5 times to do the "rescue Leah from the 2000 snakesman" mission, always die when i go against a pack of invisible snakes, so i have really no clue of how i am going to approach fase 1 and 2 of Belial
So any dps benchmark i should aim for and strats to survive the snakesman fases?

On June 09 2012 00:42 NotSorry wrote:
you guys are giving him way too much shit for his 20k dps, you realize when people were beating inferno 4-5days in we also only had ~20k dps, so it's fully doable.

On June 09 2012 03:34 Lobotomist wrote:
could someone break down why they're running vault and smokescreen? I've seen this on a number of builds, and it seems redundant to me. I could see it if you're running chests or pots, but for an actual combat build I'd rather just save the disc for another smokescreen.

On June 09 2012 03:34 Lobotomist wrote:
could someone break down why they're running vault and smokescreen? I've seen this on a number of builds, and it seems redundant to me. I could see it if you're running chests or pots, but for an actual combat build I'd rather just save the disc for another smokescreen.

On June 09 2012 00:31 Logo wrote:


Spike trap and or caltrops with immobilize! At least that's what eventually made snakes easier for me without having to gear up more. Against the snake guys if you stand right behind a spike trap, and/or caltrops they'll pop out of invis and the damage from the traps/hitstun/immobilize will kill or give you time to move away from them. With good DPS and standing kind of between 2 traps firing tentacles the burst can often outright kill a snake so there's much less risk.

Are you using the templar follower? (probably, but worthwhile to ask) He's immensely helpful over the other followers for the fight and really in general, though I like scoundrel too since he can soak a few hits usually and buy you some time.

For belial I also made good use of Spike trap/Caltrops. I'd go about 75% of the way to an edge then put the trap/caltrops behind me up against the wall and focused on spamming DPS down the other direction. When snakes would spawn behind me the traps/caltrops would buy me some time or kill the snake making it far easier than being constantly at risk of being surrounded. Attack speed is also important if you aren't itemized for it (I had a lot of trouble phase 1 with ~+30% attack speed & 2h xbow, but no trouble with ~+40% attack speed & same weapon), without sufficient attack speed even if you have good DPS it's likely you'll be unable to hit the different angles fast enough to keep the snakes off you. Just focus on maximizing your dps as well and minimizing time spent moving for this phase. If you can't kill the snakes at high enough rate no amount of moving is going to save you in such a tiny area. The start of Belial phase 2 is pretty tame so you have time to regenerate disc and cooldowns then. Also sometimes you can clear all the snakes but 1 that isn't aggroed on the other side giving you a chance to get all your disc back before moving to phase 2.

It's tempting to back all the way into a corner, but this is a big mistake imo because you have very little mobility options from there whereas if you are a little ways out you can go back into the corner more for a second or out more if you need to (but either way return to the same point when you clear the danger).

If you fight from the same corner a few times you'll learn where the spawn points are and can eventually start trapping/caltropping on top of them and better avoiding a situation where you get surrounded or you move back on top of where a snake spawns.

For Phase 2 you want to just dish out all the DPS you can while avoiding his stuff. Try to line up him and snakes once they start spawning so that you can dps them both down together with tentacle. Tactical advantage and/or vault will be really key here because you don't want to waste time running away from Belial when he teleports to you. Avoid using ss on his projectiles since you'll need the disc for his other things. Also you can probably switch out the heal rune or over time rune on prep (if using it) for the 30% to not go on cooldown, I don't think there's much non-lethal damage you can take in the fight and to me in the fight you get into trouble in bursts so the disc regen ticks aren't as useful as making sure you 100% have
the disc when you need it.

Also remember you can usually revive your follower by fighting on the opposite end of the level from where he died (recommended for phase 2 only really, just leave him dead phase 1 if he dies) then when you need to avoid belial's melee attack thingie ss and run to him. If Belial is still on the opposite side he'll get back up and soak up another few hits for you or stun some snakes.

Also don't skip the cutscenes between phases so your stuff comes off cooldown, you regen disc, and you build up sharpshooter crit %.

On June 09 2012 07:27 Gheizen64 wrote:
Found today gloves with +34 crit dam, +8.5 crit, i thought to myself "well my 15% ias 166 dex gloves must be better". +4k damage LOL. Did some math and those stats are equivalent to about a +22ias bonuses. Long story short, crit and bonus crit dam is the new ias when it get nerfed. Not that it should imho.