EPTWhy go Hardcore? - Page 9
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MezmerizePLZ
United States30 Posts
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PandaCore
Germany553 Posts
I probably won't play that mode in D3. I tend to die a lot because I'm stingy with potions, even if I have a full stack. That is a problem I have for ages in a lot of different games now. Also I don't always pay that much attention or get distracted easily by other things while playing (curse you 2nd monitor and people messaging me!). | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On February 01 2012 20:16 PandaCore wrote: Reminds me of some of my friends playing Hardcore in D2 and if they die, they'd get a character editor tool and revive their character. I probably won't play that mode in D3. I tend to die a lot because I'm stingy with potions, even if I have a full stack. That is a problem I have for ages in a lot of different games now. Also I don't always pay that much attention or get distracted easily by other things while playing (curse you 2nd monitor and people messaging me!). Erm.... so they played offline or open bnet? Cause that's not possible :D. | ||
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PandaCore
Germany553 Posts
On February 01 2012 20:20 Technique wrote: Erm.... so they played offline or open bnet? Cause that's not possible :D. They always played offline or in a LAN environment. I haven't really read up that much about D3 yet. But I assume you can't really play offline anymore? | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
Aside the initial thrill of fighting others when you know it can be your character's last fight, there's nothing better then the bragging rights of showing high-level ears in your stash to your real life friends :D | ||
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DrSeRRoD
United States490 Posts
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Phats
Australia534 Posts
I did make a pally with full max dmg jeweled armour too that could 1 shot people who were like level 60 even tho i was lvl 15  I must say though I am kinda sad the RMAH won't be in HC as I'm kinda torn between playing softcore just for the chance of selling some uber items early on when prices are crazy.. I guess playing softcore to learn the tough enemies and lil tricks to staying alive would be good anyway. But jumping right into hardcore is so exhilarating and hopefully there is a ladder of some kind as per Diablo 2 | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On February 01 2012 08:09 ShadowDrgn wrote: Yeah, I think the issue is that we play the game for different reasons. For example, in an MMORPG, I play to see new content and kill bosses; my character is simply a tool that allows me to achieve those goals. For others, they play to level up their character and collect new gear; the quests and bosses are just a means to that end. So it seems to me that people who don't like hardcore are ones that tie their enjoyment of the game into building up their characters. If those characters are erased, their enjoyment is erased along with them. From this perspective, I can see why you think it's pathological to risk losing your characters permanently, but many of us derive pleasure simply from playing the game and have little emotional attachment to the character we're playing. From my online gaming experience, the vast majority of players are like you, and those of us that play for the experience of playing are uncommon. It's why every online game in existence now has some type of RPG-style meta-gaming to give players a sense of permanent accomplishment (the SC2 league/ladder system essentially fills this role too). Pretty much that. I play a ton of different games out of many genres, but in the end I probably enjoy RPGs the most. I'll tell you this: anyone who is a long time fan of all Bioware games will develop deep connections to the characters you play as, and with. Even though Diablo is obviously not the kind of game where you feel connected to its characters in that way, the sheer amount of time and effort you put into the one person your playing as, will still make you care a lot about him/her. Because of that, I have a hard time saying goodbye I guess, just as I in general hate sad endings in movies/games. | ||
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Treehead
999 Posts
On February 01 2012 07:51 Sek-Kuar wrote: Thats the wrong question, correct one is: how can it be healthy if someone requires such a big stimulus to enjoy something? I know people who can go to party and have great time without single drop of alcohol, but other people need cocaine to even start feeling something. Some people are artists simply enjoying painting, some people want to do illegal graffiti for sake of adrenalin of being caught. And this is actually quite soft example, I could go harder and say that some sick bastards really need to rape a women to enjoy sex. Its just that SC offers great deal of fun, HC doeesnt add anything at all except one stimulus. If you need HC to enjoy game, it doesnt mean that there is more - just that you are incapable of being excited from less. Really? Let's stick to your first sentence, since I think "really?" covers most of the second paragraph. HC gives you a jolt of adrenaline every now and then, I admit - the thought that your character could really be gone forever is not nothing. But at the same time, I personally get way more adrenaline from playing SC2 - which is a game where you're more or less constantly acting and reacting in a very twitchy manner. You don't need 100 APM, or even 50 APM to play diablo well. So really, your "why do you need such a stimulus?" question seems far more appropriately directed at SC2 players than HC players. Even there, though, there is a huge difference between enjoying something your body does naturally and "needing" something that can only be produced through external means. I play Skyrim and wow and have fun, even though the adrenaline I get from those games pales in comparison to both HC diablo and SC2 - so your comment about "being incapable of being excited from less" is just wrong. Ok, y'know what - I think "really?" answers the merit of your second paragraph, but it doesn't quite describe the appropriate level of indignation. How in your right mind can you not see a very large disparity between someone who plays a game which gives him an adrenaline rush (which, btw, can also be found in people's reactions to scary movies, roller coaster rides, and tons of other activities people do entirely for fun) and people who are addicted to cocaine, people who compulsively commit crime, and rapists? Really? | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On February 01 2012 22:55 FeyFey wrote: i prefer non hardcore, simply because i dislike loosing my characters, they have feelings too! I think hardcore will hold of many players from the real difficulties, like beat game on lowest level possible, no pots or white items maximum etc. Though a maximum white items hardcore character would probably be a real challenge. Hardcore doesn't prevent you from doing any of that. Actually there are some guys who tried/try to beat LoD hc without any equip at all, only thing allowed was a broken belt for pots so you don't get any armor from it and the starting weapon. I don't know if there was someone who beat Baal on hell that way, but there is a diary of someone who managed to get into act 4 hell and it's fucking awesome :D here it is It's in german tho. | ||
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Urbz
Netherlands456 Posts
On February 02 2012 03:59 clusen wrote: Hardcore doesn't prevent you from doing any of that. Actually there are some guys who tried/try to beat LoD hc without any equip at all, only thing allowed was a broken belt for pots so you don't get any armor from it and the starting weapon. I don't know if there was someone who beat Baal on hell that way, but there is a diary of someone who managed to get into act 4 hell and it's fucking awesome :D here it is It's in german tho. Actually there are also vids of a party of 8 doing uber-tristram ( after beating the game on hell ) on HC.. naked. So ye, don't under-estimate how crazy/awesome HC players are. =) | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Urbz
Netherlands456 Posts
On February 02 2012 04:17 HaXXspetten wrote: That is pretty ridiculous... what kind of skills/tactics do people use to survive/do damage without any items? http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=18696990205&sid=3000 | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On February 01 2012 17:39 MezmerizePLZ wrote: The short answer for me personally is that hardcore is just more fun and exhilarating. To me, everything in hardcore is just more rewarding o.O On February 01 2012 06:52 Arch00 wrote: Once you start hardcore, you can't get that rush ... Everything in softcore begins to lose any kind of meaning, Nothing beats HC! On February 01 2012 10:30 skipdog172 wrote: We play hardcore because it's intense. You have close calls. You sweat. ... On January 29 2012 17:36 HaXXspetten wrote: Hardcore is just the same as Softcore, except that you'll be shaking with nervousity, constantly aware that one mistake and it'll be all over. It's not harder, but its mental impact is insane, etc etc etc | ||
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Aruno
New Zealand748 Posts
On February 02 2012 07:33 caradoc wrote: Half the posts in this thread could be about porn and the conversation could make just as much sense.... + Show Spoiler + On February 01 2012 17:39 MezmerizePLZ wrote: The short answer for me personally is that hardcore is just more fun and exhilarating. To me, everything in hardcore is just more rewarding o.O On February 01 2012 06:52 Arch00 wrote: Once you start hardcore, you can't get that rush ... Everything in softcore begins to lose any kind of meaning, Nothing beats HC! On February 01 2012 10:30 skipdog172 wrote: We play hardcore because it's intense. You have close calls. You sweat. ... On January 29 2012 17:36 HaXXspetten wrote: Hardcore is just the same as Softcore, except that you'll be shaking with nervousity, constantly aware that one mistake and it'll be all over. It's not harder, but its mental impact is insane, etc etc etc Hardcore porn all the way :D | ||
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Sek-Kuar
Czech Republic593 Posts
Not to meantion that saying HC is more about skills is ridiculous, HC is just about not dying to AI. Real skills come to play mainly on SC where trading, item variability is much higher, so player with player interaction are much more important. Beating fallen without dying while abusing save etc. mechanics takes just campaign skills, but comprehensive knowledge of game and items required to became truly succesful trader and player on SC is what takes real skills. | ||
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darksub
Argentina302 Posts
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Rimstalker
Germany734 Posts
I have lost HC chars, a couple of million EXP before Level 100. Usually makes me quit playing for a day or two, then I'm back to build a better, stronger char  . | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On February 03 2012 00:14 Rimstalker wrote: my personal experience is that playing highlevel chars in HC, the other players will be way more fun to play with than SC noobs. I have lost HC chars, a couple of million EXP before Level 100. Usually makes me quit playing for a day or two, then I'm back to build a better, stronger char .Except 99 is maximum? -.- | ||
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