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Sega92
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States467 Posts
February 16 2011 17:01 GMT
#401
I am so excited to see IdrA coming back, now i won't have to stay up til like 4 A.M. just to watch him play in the GSL anymore! yay for regular sleep schedules on EST!!
tensionz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States130 Posts
February 16 2011 17:03 GMT
#402
Awesome! Help spread global SC2 dominance rawrrr!
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
February 16 2011 17:05 GMT
#403
Wow, when I saw the headline I wasn't sure if it was real. This just blew my mind.

Seeing IdrA owning it up in every non-korean tournament? Priceless. I'm so happy right now.

GSL may be the biggest (atm) but there are alot more great tournaments he can enter nowadays.
Rokusha
Profile Joined January 2011
United States207 Posts
February 16 2011 17:12 GMT
#404
The thing is, as others have said, I feel the skill gap between Koreans and Westerners are going to increase if no one wants to go to the GSL to compete with the best. And furthermore, when these "Western" and "European" tournaments do kick off with larger prize pools and prestige, what do you think the Koreans are going to do? Sit back and just play GSL? Heck no! If they can fit it in, they will play in these supposedly booming competitions in the Western scene and dominate even more.
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
February 16 2011 17:18 GMT
#405
On February 17 2011 02:12 Rokusha wrote:
The thing is, as others have said, I feel the skill gap between Koreans and Westerners are going to increase if no one wants to go to the GSL to compete with the best. And furthermore, when these "Western" and "European" tournaments do kick off with larger prize pools and prestige, what do you think the Koreans are going to do? Sit back and just play GSL? Heck no! If they can fit it in, they will play in these supposedly booming competitions in the Western scene and dominate even more.


I don't see how that tracks tbh. If the world's best players all moved to korea in order to compete, then that would be what creates a skill gap, wouldn't it? Having a large enough prize pool to encourage a player to move out of korea to compete would certainly encourage more local talent to dedicate that much more time in order to win as well.
JayConn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States408 Posts
February 16 2011 17:18 GMT
#406
Sad, but also exciting. Would have loved to see him in the amazing group he was in.
Mackin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland181 Posts
February 16 2011 17:18 GMT
#407
this is pretty cool. I cant wait to see IdrA play more NA players, as I want to see how much of a gap there actually is (if any at all, as there are some amazing players out in NA) between Korea and NA.

Im sure this will be very fun plus, its nice to know that the foreigners will less likely have to knock each other out in GSL this time
Serenity
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
February 16 2011 17:22 GMT
#408
So happy about this. I cannot wait for mlg and other awesome events in the US. Hopefully we can get Starcraft to where Halo used to be. GL Idra
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
February 16 2011 17:22 GMT
#409
I don't mind the decision to come back to the States, it could work out very well for him, but WHY did you pick now to leave? I find the timing just awful as it is right before the GSL (less than a week). There aren't any major tournaments going on that conflict with the GSL schedule: MLG starts April 1st and TSL is online, anyway.

Idra has got top8 in consecutive seasons, and he has always liked his chances to reach the finals and win it all. Leaving at this time doesn't make much sense to me.
dkim
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
February 16 2011 17:31 GMT
#410
good career move but in terms of being a competitor, he's going for easy wins.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
February 16 2011 17:31 GMT
#411
You're dead to me, GSL! Long live the NASL!

Can't help but feeling those guys who have risked so much to make the foreigner scene in Korea happen are getting more than a bit burned by this, tho...
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 17:46:02
February 16 2011 17:32 GMT
#412
Remembering Idra always complaining how NA doesn't have any good Zergs, it's going to be interesting to see how his ZvZ develops.

All in all, I don't think this is a good move, Korea will always be ahead of foreign scene in terms of skill and quantity of extremely good players.

And I don't want to be a party breaker, but if you look at the last GSL, Code A had such an awful players, the matches were barely watchable. I watched only a few of Code A matches, and maybe 70% of Code S.

And now we will have a NA scene, probably with some larger tournament/league, with lower overall skill of players and fewer excellent players. Between Korean league and NA, one I know which one I will be watching, what with my limited time for SC2 matches and all
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
February 16 2011 17:36 GMT
#413
This actually makes me a bit sad. For me he is the guy who really made it, who stuck it out through all the shitty times and finally was on top and hopefully where enjoying it. Best of luck in the US IdrA. This will seriously change my eager to stay up late night to watch the GSLs.
Dead girls don't say no.
Rokusha
Profile Joined January 2011
United States207 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 17:38:06
February 16 2011 17:36 GMT
#414
On February 17 2011 02:18 rdj107 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 02:12 Rokusha wrote:
The thing is, as others have said, I feel the skill gap between Koreans and Westerners are going to increase if no one wants to go to the GSL to compete with the best. And furthermore, when these "Western" and "European" tournaments do kick off with larger prize pools and prestige, what do you think the Koreans are going to do? Sit back and just play GSL? Heck no! If they can fit it in, they will play in these supposedly booming competitions in the Western scene and dominate even more.


I don't see how that tracks tbh. If the world's best players all moved to korea in order to compete, then that would be what creates a skill gap, wouldn't it? Having a large enough prize pool to encourage a player to move out of korea to compete would certainly encourage more local talent to dedicate that much more time in order to win as well.


I kind of see your point of view but what I meant was that, Koreans are just going to get better and better with the way they their training methods are that have been in place for a while now. Even if western teams emulate them anytime soon by setting up teamhouse where players live, eat, breathe starcraft 24hrs a day, they are not going to be able to catch up to the Koreans themselves since Koreans had a big headstart. That's why TL trains with OGS. It will get to the point where Koreans will be far ahead of everyone else and dominate every tournament out there GSL and non-GSL. And discourage local talent who risk giving up years to play a game saturated with players who are far ahead of everyone.

Edit: of course this is all opinion and speculation at this point. I hope I am wrong though and can't wait for the NASL
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
February 16 2011 17:38 GMT
#415
i'm sad now. Its always hard to find these pro's playing or finding the replays or streams/vods. GSL it easy even if it was 10.00 a month.

Also, Idra is going to be playing Code A type competition, I don't think thats how you peak and stay ahead of stuff..

I also think some of this is related to EG intentions.

Korea = not happening they pulled out of it totally.
mutual parting with manager = They fired him or let him go however you look at it

I think EG is either bleeding cash and in trouble $$$ wise or reforming/transitioning and cutting back and the korean expense atm is too much.
ShcShc
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada912 Posts
February 16 2011 18:20 GMT
#416
Why not wait AFTER the current GSL season for a one last chance for all-glory??
((((((
God DAJNFBGHSfIDSHUKLFHSGUIO! -Jinro
D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
February 16 2011 18:21 GMT
#417
Dear IdrA(and I'm not sure if you'll ever see this but anyways)

Strangely, I was both sad, and happy at the same time. A huge huge plus for you is, being closer to home and possibly family and friends, which will give you even more support and hopefully mental relaxation when you need it.

I'm a little nervous with regards to eSports taking off more here in the West, you probably know far more than I do, but I'm under the perception that Korea still maintains its "gaming culture" far more so than here in the West. By "gaming culture" I mean, TV channels that broadcast starcraft shows, a cultural thing that's just all about starcraft, in Korea. If that is starting to die down in Korea, then perhaps this move is possibly the best thing for you to do. Strike while the iron is hot. You've hit the peak, and thus quickly get out before it begins its descent.

I really hope too, that with these other events that the regular audience would have more access to watching your games, via replays, commentaries, and things that are hopefully free of charge(with adverts of course by the sponsors).

I enjoyed watching the GSL, and paid for it as well, but at the same time, I am starting to cheer for players who are Western. I have been disappointed in players such as SlayersBoxer, who seem to have a big name, but seem to just lose and lose.

Good luck IdrA and hope to see more of your upcoming games.
Canada
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
February 16 2011 18:23 GMT
#418
Who replaces IdrA now in March GSL?
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 16 2011 18:24 GMT
#419
On February 17 2011 02:36 Rokusha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 02:18 rdj107 wrote:
On February 17 2011 02:12 Rokusha wrote:
The thing is, as others have said, I feel the skill gap between Koreans and Westerners are going to increase if no one wants to go to the GSL to compete with the best. And furthermore, when these "Western" and "European" tournaments do kick off with larger prize pools and prestige, what do you think the Koreans are going to do? Sit back and just play GSL? Heck no! If they can fit it in, they will play in these supposedly booming competitions in the Western scene and dominate even more.


I don't see how that tracks tbh. If the world's best players all moved to korea in order to compete, then that would be what creates a skill gap, wouldn't it? Having a large enough prize pool to encourage a player to move out of korea to compete would certainly encourage more local talent to dedicate that much more time in order to win as well.


I kind of see your point of view but what I meant was that, Koreans are just going to get better and better with the way they their training methods are that have been in place for a while now. Even if western teams emulate them anytime soon by setting up teamhouse where players live, eat, breathe starcraft 24hrs a day, they are not going to be able to catch up to the Koreans themselves since Koreans had a big headstart. That's why TL trains with OGS. It will get to the point where Koreans will be far ahead of everyone else and dominate every tournament out there GSL and non-GSL. And discourage local talent who risk giving up years to play a game saturated with players who are far ahead of everyone.

Edit: of course this is all opinion and speculation at this point. I hope I am wrong though and can't wait for the NASL


If it's anything like Brood War, the players on top won't be on top forever. When was the last time you heard about iloveoov winning a starleague? And who is the top player there right now? Flash, who was like 15 and still, from our perspective, pretty new to Brood War, when he won his first starleague. It seems that people are able to catch up in these situations.

You are right that this is all speculative, though.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 18:31:44
February 16 2011 18:29 GMT
#420
Where is he going to live? Is the house in Cali or Arizona?


EDIT: Aw shit its in Arizona, according to Liquipedia. Sadface. Was hoping they'd be near me.
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