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Ugh, this is quite disappointing.
I definitely sympathize with Idra's want to return the the US. There is much more security and less stress involved, undoubtedly. Also, better chances to bring in top prize money....
BUT I really don't think Idra coming back to the US is going to make that big of a difference to Western E sports. Things over here are, indeed, taking off (as Idra said) and esports is getting bigger and bigger. However, it is important to note that this has been going on without IdrA being here and would most likely continue to do so without him leaving Korea. I think that IdrA living in Korea and competing in the GSL actually does more for western esports than him coming here and winning tournaments. It is exciting and encouraging for the Western community to see IdrA competing against top Korean players (many of the top players in the world) and being successful. He is much more of a spectacle over there--a bolt of lightning zapping foreign interest into the GSL--than he could be playing in a bunch of American and European tournaments broadcasted at odd hours on laggy streams. We need him as our American representative in Korea--our American ambassador to the GSL!
Don't abandon your post! America needs your representation!
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Kind of disappointed. Idra basically moved back because of the easy competition and the huge prize pool the usa has given us. It make sense, but many of his fans will also be disappointed that he will not be competing in the the GSL anymore.
LeenockfOu!???? Maka is cool too.
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Bummer. Still rooting.
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Ok, it's official. What ever EG is cooking up, it is going to be HUGE.
As much as I don't like IdrA and his BM style, he isn't a retard. He is very methodical and his play style reflects this. In order for him to leave a solid spot in Code S (sure he wasn't going to win, but a constant Top 8 is VERY impressive) for the prospect of something here in the west, really makes me giddy.
Good luck IdrA, even though nothing good comes out of your mouth in-game, you are a solid player and I am looking forward to what you guys at EG have in store for us.
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Artosis looks like he's about to cry...T_T
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I think people underestimate the difficulties of living in Korea, especially as a foreign progamer. He's been there for almost 3 years now (I think) and he played 12 hours / day for most of that time. He had no time to seriously study Korean (which I understand to be rather different than English). He has only been able to discuss starcraft with a select few people given the language barrier. It's a tough life, both from a gaming and social perspective.
Regardless of your opinion of his antics, Idra has undeniably been an icon in foreign E-sports. Much of this is overlooked due to the debates raging around said antics, but if there is anyone who has earned the right to do what he wants without being called a quitter, it is Idra. His dedication to E-sports and starcraft simply cannot be disputed.
Good luck to him.
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Reminds me of NHL players going over to the KHL for more money.
It's all about the benjamins, baby.
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does this mean he will NOT be playing in the March GSL???
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Hopefully this is not permanent. Idra is one of the few foreigners with a legitimate shot at a GSL title. I wonder if he'll only stay here for the MLG circuit events and then head back to Incheon during the MLG "offseason".
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do people like this guy? his rudeness and incivility appalls me.
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Stop saying that this is somewhat of a bad move. IdrA obviously knows something we simply don't. And this has most likely to do with a new league starting in NA (my assumption). I think when he gives up a Code S spot, it must be something really big and I'm totally excited about this. I'd support IdrA wherever he plays, good luck to him
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On February 17 2011 00:18 MDMA_ wrote: does this mean he will NOT be playing in the March GSL???
Yes Idra said he will not be playing in the March GSL but is not sure about future GSL's after that.
On February 17 2011 00:21 white_horse wrote: do people like this guy? his rudeness and incivility appalls me.
Yes, I like him. A LOT!
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
This is the bottom line and the reason he's coming back to the States. He's going to be able to play in a LOT more tournaments in 2011 and get a LOT more exposure for himself and EG and their sponsors. He's also going to win a LOT more $$$.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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On February 16 2011 16:46 canadianhockee wrote: lololololol another terribad foreigner bites the dust. tlo went home in disgrace pretending his wrist was hurt rofl what a joke. select says he gonna play in gsl then cant even qualify then has to go back home and make up excuses. now idra realizes he never did jack squat in any gsl tourney and is only falling more behind. can't wait til jinro goes home with his tail behind his chin when his turtle terran style sit in base til 200 food strat gets passed by.
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sry but i hope that get u a permban ...
IDra is one of the 3 best zergs in the world and its a HUGE loss for the GSL
and Jinro for me is one of the 3-5 best terrans so he will succeed and he did 2 times top4 with even playing better then MKP last gsl so ... what are u talking about ...
i hope some of the A code foreigns go S code but yet i cant see anyone on the lvl of IDRA expect Jinro
ps: tlo was bad ? he qualify every GSL as no other foreign did and i think very less korean pros did ...
gl idra in us and try to flame less on ladder xD
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Good luck with your future endeavors Idra.
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This is all strangely coinciding with inControl's announcement of an announcement's announcement.
Just saying.
Whispers: He knows.
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It's a sound financial decision. Good for him. The dude has been living abroad in a foreign country, totally different from western culture, for like 3 years, so he's earned the right to cash in imo.
Regardless of the "big announcement", the competition in NA will always be inferior to the Koreans. Logistically, it's just impossible for a continent as big as NA to produce talent as good as the Koreans without the infrastructure and money. Unless this "big announcement" is going to inject the NA SC2 scene with millions and millions of dollars, its always going to be this way.
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On February 16 2011 19:21 theuser wrote: I think the real reason are the new maps introduced in GSL. He doesn't have as many options concerning practice partners as the other players. Laddering won't be a good practice place as GOM will introduce more and more custom maps. Also EG doesn't have enough players in Korea to star in the GSTL. So maybe it was the right decision to bring the gracken home.
No matter how you rationalize it, there is this gut feeling he could have at least stayed for the March GSL. But if it's about practicing and the maps, then his decision and the timing makes a lot of sense and would seem much less of a cop out.
I was looking forward to his love triangle fight with Clide and Zenio but I can't say he and Jinro are the only players I cheer for on the GSL.
Plus this:
On February 16 2011 17:03 kash2k wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 16:41 Manifesto7 wrote: Let's see.
Option A) Stay in Korea with a ridiculously difficult tournament which you have to place in the top 2 to be really worth it. Be away from your friends / family / language / culture (already has been two years or more by now anyway). Be hindered in your ability to participate in far more numerous and less competitive tournaments.
Option B) Go back to your country of birth. Rejoin teammates. Have the freedom to fly around the world on the sponsor's dime. Have a much higher chance of winning. Give your sponsor better promotion. Keep reasonable hours. Enjoy eating natural cheese and drink beer that doesn't look like tap water.
He would be crazy to stay in Korea, especially when he isn't supported by a team or house there. The upcoming scene in the US will put the GSL to shame anyway. Rofl...with this type of attitude we can just stop doing any type of competitive sport. Sport is magical when you see people with passion and nothing else matters. As soon as it turn material things start going down. It is job of people around the "star" to make sure he stays in that "passion" mode for as long as possible. Option A makes Champions, Option B makes those guys on a bench.
And this:
On February 16 2011 23:06 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 22:04 Baibars wrote:On February 16 2011 21:52 Flying_Cake wrote: Ok seriously, there has to be a good reason why he isn't playing the GSL. After all he has done to get there, hes gonna leave just before the big tournament? Yeah, becuase he is eventually gonna take part in an even bigger one. Perhaps there is something like that coming up on nasl.tv, something as a big-ass new league that maybe announced by geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson on 21st of february. Wouldn't be suprised if Jinro was about to book a flight as we are talking here =) Highly doubt any league is going to surpass the GSL. In money yes there is a possibility, in skill no. This move marks the beginning of the end for foreigners IMO. Without top foreigners in Korea training with the best of the best, the skill gap between the Koreans and the rest of the world is just going to get bigger and bigger. edit: don't misunderstand me i completely agree with what he's doing. It's his life not ours. He needs to do what he needs to in order to make a living.
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This is sick, idra fighting ~ ~ ~ ~ !
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Wow this is big news and I an very excited for the future if idra feels he can make a bigger living here in na than korea
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