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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
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KaizenOSU
United Kingdom33 Posts
from a fans point of view i enjoyed watching Idra play at the top level but i suppose him playing closer to home will do nicely too!! | ||
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Wasteweiser
Canada522 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On February 16 2011 22:04 Baibars wrote: Yeah, becuase he is eventually gonna take part in an even bigger one. Perhaps there is something like that coming up on nasl.tv, something as a big-ass new league that maybe announced by geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson on 21st of february. Wouldn't be suprised if Jinro was about to book a flight as we are talking here =) Highly doubt any league is going to surpass the GSL. In money yes there is a possibility, in skill no. This move marks the beginning of the end for foreigners IMO. Without top foreigners in Korea training with the best of the best, the skill gap between the Koreans and the rest of the world is just going to get bigger and bigger. edit: don't misunderstand me i completely agree with what he's doing. It's his life not ours. He needs to do what he needs to in order to make a living. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On February 16 2011 23:06 rysecake wrote: Highly doubt any league is going to surpass the GSL. In money yes there is a possibility, in skill no. This move marks the beginning of the end for foreigners IMO. Without top foreigners in Korea training with the best of the best, the skill gap between the Koreans and the rest of the world is just going to get bigger and bigger. Teamliquid is actually the only foreigner hope at this point. edit: meant to edit my first post, sorry for the double post | ||
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lifecanwait
96 Posts
Who would like to live in Korea forever. But as mention a lot of times, the main reasons are probably the higher chances to win tournaments in the West (not only because of the fact sc2 has a bigger raise there atm, but also because the players overall might not be as good as in Korea). | ||
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Morta
Germany557 Posts
I mean,in Korea there is only the GSL.If you qualify,good,if you win,good but if not,there is NO other Tournament where he can participate in and that a whole month. I bet when hes back he will roflstomp the US ladder. ^^ | ||
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Prixm
Sweden145 Posts
So Idra, I love you decision. Im looking forward to seeing you roll over all these boring a-class players that we have so many of outside Korea. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Baibars
Germany29 Posts
On February 16 2011 23:06 rysecake wrote: Highly doubt any league is going to surpass the GSL. In money yes there is a possibility, in skill no. This move marks the beginning of the end for foreigners IMO. Without top foreigners in Korea training with the best of the best, the skill gap between the Koreans and the rest of the world is just going to get bigger and bigger. Excuse me, but whotf cares about skill? Money makes the world go round, those guys earn their freakin' money by playing that game. We are talking about monetary income. Noone will tell you "I give a shit about anyones skill but my own, less skilled opponents and comparable prizemoney means more money in the pocket, which is good. Playing Ex-Kaspa slaves for a shameful 1500 bucks in Code A is bullshit." But that's what it comes down to. And on the long run the most skill will always be, where the most money can be made. Thats a fact. Greg didn't travel to Korea once because of the food beeing so fucking good, but because of the prizemoney thats so damn freakin' high down there. Pros love the game, thats for sure, but in the end, they are pros for a reason, and thats not "to be the best competitor", but "to win the shit out of that events". Passion alone doesn't pay bills. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On February 16 2011 23:12 Baibars wrote: Excuse me, but whotf cares about skill? Money makes the world go round, those guys earn their freakin' money by playing that game. We are talking about monetary income. Noone will tell you "I give a shit about anyones skill but my own, less skilled opponents and comparable prizemoney means more money in the pocket, which is good. Playing Ex-Kaspa slaves for a shameful 1500 bucks in Code A is bullshit." But that's what it comes down to. And on the long run the most skill will always be, where the most money can be made. Thats a fact. Greg didn't travvel to Korea once because if the food beeing so fucking good, but because of the prizemoney thats so damn freakin' high down there. Pros love the game, thats for sure, but in the end, they are pros for a reason, and thats not "to be the best competitor", but "to win the shit out of that events". Passion alone doesn't pay bills. You clearly missed my edit. I understand it's for the money. Do what you gotta do to make some dough right? edit: I wanted to expand on my thoughts more. Skill doesn't go to money, money goes to skill. The better you are, the more money sponsors will award you with. Korea is where you prove yourself to be the best of the best. If you don't care about skill, then you're just another average gamer/human. Michael Jordan made more bank than any other player in the NBA, why? He's the best of the best. Companies sucked up to him in order to get his face on their water bottles. If you're not the best, you're not gonna make as much money. | ||
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Quarz
448 Posts
On February 16 2011 23:12 Baibars wrote: Excuse me, but whotf cares about skill? Money makes the world go round, those guys earn their freakin' money by playing that game. We are talking about monetary income. Noone will tell you "I give a shit about anyones skill but my own, less skilled opponents and comparable prizemoney means more money in the pocket, which is good. Playing Ex-Kaspa slaves for a shameful 1500 bucks in Code A is bullshit." But that's what it comes down to. And on the long run the most skill will always be, where the most money can be made. Thats a fact. Greg didn't travvel to Korea once because if the food beeing so fucking good, but because of the prizemoney thats so damn freakin' high down there. Pros love the game, thats for sure, but in the end, they are pros for a reason, and thats not "to be the best competitor", but "to win the shit out of that events". Passion alone doesn't pay bills. Thats ok, but you cant tell you are the best. Then you are a normal man who earns money. Funny to call those bw pros slaves. Evil Evil Kespa lol. | ||
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TheValley
Poland56 Posts
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z00t
Australia976 Posts
I'm happy for Idra because he's doing what he wants to do, and having a bigger part in the Western scene again. But of course, I'm sad because that's one less foreigner I love rooting for in the GSL  . Hopefully more will advance to Code S in March!  Best of luck, Idra! I haven't really been following tourneys outside the GSL, but now I might have to start doing so again! ^_^ | ||
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TheXenocide1
United States58 Posts
I think it is a good move for western e-sports as well as for Idra's life. I am expecting either a mass exodus from Korea by foreigners or make it a place to go train because the money sucks there unless you get a top 4 finish in code S. Idra is going to dominate everyone in the West which is great for me since he is my favorite pro-gamer | ||
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Escape
Canada306 Posts
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lifecanwait
96 Posts
Excuse me, but whotf cares about skill? Money makes the world go round, those guys earn their freakin' money by playing that game. We are talking about monetary income. Noone will tell you "I give a shit about anyones skill but my own, less skilled opponents and comparable prizemoney means more money in the pocket, which is good. Playing Ex-Kaspa slaves for a shameful 1500 bucks in Code A is bullshit." But that's what it comes down to. And on the long run the most skill will always be, where the most money can be made. Thats a fact. Greg didn't travel to Korea once because of the food beeing so fucking good, but because of the prizemoney thats so damn freakin' high down there. Pros love the game, thats for sure, but in the end, they are pros for a reason, and thats not "to be the best competitor", but "to win the shit out of that events". Passion alone doesn't pay bills. For the most agree with you, but I think the fun-part of playing starcraft for a living should not be underestimated. I think a lot of people do this mainly because they think it's more fun than anything else they could do to earn their money. But what will all the pro-gamers do when they are 30+ years old? Still playing computer 10 hours+ a day? Imho that would be kind of sad and as far as I am concerned it would not fullfill my life. Starcraft is a complex game that requires a lot of skill, but aren't you getting bored when you play more than maybe 4 hours a day? The maps are always same looking and the opportunities are principially limited (same units etc.). I would like to ask some of the pro-gamers when they'd consider fun to actually stop and define playing starcraft as "work". IdrA however not only wants to move to the West to win tournaments but also to make e-Sport grow and later on, if he can get a job in managing tournaments and stuff like that this would be awesome. I think with his experience from Korea he really could bring e-Sports to the next level in the West. | ||
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shappens
Korea (South)137 Posts
wherever you go, whatever you do, good luck buddy^ ^ Just show us nice games thru teamliquid site or youtube etc.. Bye~ | ||
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timestep
Canada73 Posts
If the gracken is going to leave. holy shit... | ||
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