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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9053 Posts
February 16 2011 13:52 GMT
#341
this means no EG house in GSL!. Thanks for giving me false hope. Great stuffs coming up for non-Korean scene though, can't wait.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
February 16 2011 13:53 GMT
#342
Not a surprise really, GL with whatever Idra.
KaizenOSU
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom33 Posts
February 16 2011 13:53 GMT
#343
omg what of his code S status..it was nice to see Idra doing really well in the GSL and being a real force to be reckoned with. his matches were entertaining and he is a great player with personality which i feel many korean gamers lack!

from a fans point of view i enjoyed watching Idra play at the top level but i suppose him playing closer to home will do nicely too!!
No progress? No purpose...
Wasteweiser
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada522 Posts
February 16 2011 14:04 GMT
#344
This is huge, poor Artosis is going to be missing one of his close friends though. I'm kinda happy and sad at the same time, i need a hug...
Obitus.243
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 14:10:42
February 16 2011 14:06 GMT
#345
On February 16 2011 22:04 Baibars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 21:52 Flying_Cake wrote:
Ok seriously, there has to be a good reason why he isn't playing the GSL. After all he has done to get there, hes gonna leave just before the big tournament?



Yeah, becuase he is eventually gonna take part in an even bigger one. Perhaps there is something like that coming up on nasl.tv, something as a big-ass new league that maybe announced by geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson on 21st of february.

Wouldn't be suprised if Jinro was about to book a flight as we are talking here =)



Highly doubt any league is going to surpass the GSL. In money yes there is a possibility, in skill no. This move marks the beginning of the end for foreigners IMO. Without top foreigners in Korea training with the best of the best, the skill gap between the Koreans and the rest of the world is just going to get bigger and bigger.

edit: don't misunderstand me i completely agree with what he's doing. It's his life not ours. He needs to do what he needs to in order to make a living.
The Notorious Winkles
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 14:07:22
February 16 2011 14:06 GMT
#346
On February 16 2011 23:06 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 22:04 Baibars wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:52 Flying_Cake wrote:
Ok seriously, there has to be a good reason why he isn't playing the GSL. After all he has done to get there, hes gonna leave just before the big tournament?



Yeah, becuase he is eventually gonna take part in an even bigger one. Perhaps there is something like that coming up on nasl.tv, something as a big-ass new league that maybe announced by geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson on 21st of february.

Wouldn't be suprised if Jinro was about to book a flight as we are talking here =)



Highly doubt any league is going to surpass the GSL. In money yes there is a possibility, in skill no. This move marks the beginning of the end for foreigners IMO. Without top foreigners in Korea training with the best of the best, the skill gap between the Koreans and the rest of the world is just going to get bigger and bigger.


Teamliquid is actually the only foreigner hope at this point.

edit: meant to edit my first post, sorry for the double post
The Notorious Winkles
lifecanwait
Profile Joined May 2010
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 14:17:03
February 16 2011 14:07 GMT
#347
It's been time to go home idrA.. :-)
Who would like to live in Korea forever. But as mention a lot of times, the main reasons are probably the higher chances to win tournaments in the West (not only because of the fact sc2 has a bigger raise there atm, but also because the players overall might not be as good as in Korea).
dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today
Morta
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany557 Posts
February 16 2011 14:07 GMT
#348
I can totally understand that decision.
I mean,in Korea there is only the GSL.If you qualify,good,if you win,good but if not,there is NO other Tournament where he can participate in and that a whole month.


I bet when hes back he will roflstomp the US ladder. ^^


if i'am sad i stop being sad and play starcraft 2 instead.True Story.
Prixm
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden145 Posts
February 16 2011 14:07 GMT
#349
Idra does this only because he wants to move back and the biggest reason is because he knows he will do better outside GSL. Moneywise that is, and its a very smart decision by him. As much as you love Korea and GSL, it is the "maintournamanet" its where every foreigner does wanna be. But its not potentially giving the money nor the training you want in some cases.

So Idra, I love you decision. Im looking forward to seeing you roll over all these boring a-class players that we have so many of outside Korea.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 16 2011 14:10 GMT
#350
By the way, Xeph mentioned most koreans like idra and are really sad about this
Baibars
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany29 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 14:16:42
February 16 2011 14:12 GMT
#351
On February 16 2011 23:06 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 22:04 Baibars wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:52 Flying_Cake wrote:
Ok seriously, there has to be a good reason why he isn't playing the GSL. After all he has done to get there, hes gonna leave just before the big tournament?



Yeah, becuase he is eventually gonna take part in an even bigger one. Perhaps there is something like that coming up on nasl.tv, something as a big-ass new league that maybe announced by geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson on 21st of february.

Wouldn't be suprised if Jinro was about to book a flight as we are talking here =)



Highly doubt any league is going to surpass the GSL. In money yes there is a possibility, in skill no. This move marks the beginning of the end for foreigners IMO. Without top foreigners in Korea training with the best of the best, the skill gap between the Koreans and the rest of the world is just going to get bigger and bigger.



Excuse me, but whotf cares about skill? Money makes the world go round, those guys earn their freakin' money by playing that game.
We are talking about monetary income. Noone will tell you "I give a shit about anyones skill but my own, less skilled opponents and comparable prizemoney means more money in the pocket, which is good. Playing Ex-Kaspa slaves for a shameful 1500 bucks in Code A is bullshit."

But that's what it comes down to. And on the long run the most skill will always be, where the most money can be made. Thats a fact. Greg didn't travel to Korea once because of the food beeing so fucking good, but because of the prizemoney thats so damn freakin' high down there.

Pros love the game, thats for sure, but in the end, they are pros for a reason, and thats not "to be the best competitor", but "to win the shit out of that events".

Passion alone doesn't pay bills.
You will notice, my postcount is quite low. That is because I'm a new community member. I started playing when SC2 came out, so please don't judge me too hard on that. I just try to be part of it. 2500 ish Diamond Protoss
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 14:33:27
February 16 2011 14:17 GMT
#352
On February 16 2011 23:12 Baibars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 23:06 rysecake wrote:
On February 16 2011 22:04 Baibars wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:52 Flying_Cake wrote:
Ok seriously, there has to be a good reason why he isn't playing the GSL. After all he has done to get there, hes gonna leave just before the big tournament?



Yeah, becuase he is eventually gonna take part in an even bigger one. Perhaps there is something like that coming up on nasl.tv, something as a big-ass new league that maybe announced by geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson on 21st of february.

Wouldn't be suprised if Jinro was about to book a flight as we are talking here =)



Highly doubt any league is going to surpass the GSL. In money yes there is a possibility, in skill no. This move marks the beginning of the end for foreigners IMO. Without top foreigners in Korea training with the best of the best, the skill gap between the Koreans and the rest of the world is just going to get bigger and bigger.



Excuse me, but whotf cares about skill? Money makes the world go round, those guys earn their freakin' money by playing that game.
We are talking about monetary income. Noone will tell you "I give a shit about anyones skill but my own, less skilled opponents and comparable prizemoney means more money in the pocket, which is good. Playing Ex-Kaspa slaves for a shameful 1500 bucks in Code A is bullshit."

But that's what it comes down to. And on the long run the most skill will always be, where the most money can be made. Thats a fact. Greg didn't travvel to Korea once because if the food beeing so fucking good, but because of the prizemoney thats so damn freakin' high down there.

Pros love the game, thats for sure, but in the end, they are pros for a reason, and thats not "to be the best competitor", but "to win the shit out of that events".

Passion alone doesn't pay bills.


You clearly missed my edit. I understand it's for the money. Do what you gotta do to make some dough right?

edit: I wanted to expand on my thoughts more. Skill doesn't go to money, money goes to skill. The better you are, the more money sponsors will award you with. Korea is where you prove yourself to be the best of the best. If you don't care about skill, then you're just another average gamer/human. Michael Jordan made more bank than any other player in the NBA, why? He's the best of the best. Companies sucked up to him in order to get his face on their water bottles. If you're not the best, you're not gonna make as much money.
The Notorious Winkles
Quarz
Profile Joined November 2010
448 Posts
February 16 2011 14:19 GMT
#353
On February 16 2011 23:12 Baibars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 23:06 rysecake wrote:
On February 16 2011 22:04 Baibars wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:52 Flying_Cake wrote:
Ok seriously, there has to be a good reason why he isn't playing the GSL. After all he has done to get there, hes gonna leave just before the big tournament?



Yeah, becuase he is eventually gonna take part in an even bigger one. Perhaps there is something like that coming up on nasl.tv, something as a big-ass new league that maybe announced by geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson on 21st of february.

Wouldn't be suprised if Jinro was about to book a flight as we are talking here =)



Highly doubt any league is going to surpass the GSL. In money yes there is a possibility, in skill no. This move marks the beginning of the end for foreigners IMO. Without top foreigners in Korea training with the best of the best, the skill gap between the Koreans and the rest of the world is just going to get bigger and bigger.



Excuse me, but whotf cares about skill? Money makes the world go round, those guys earn their freakin' money by playing that game.
We are talking about monetary income. Noone will tell you "I give a shit about anyones skill but my own, less skilled opponents and comparable prizemoney means more money in the pocket, which is good. Playing Ex-Kaspa slaves for a shameful 1500 bucks in Code A is bullshit."

But that's what it comes down to. And on the long run the most skill will always be, where the most money can be made. Thats a fact. Greg didn't travvel to Korea once because if the food beeing so fucking good, but because of the prizemoney thats so damn freakin' high down there.

Pros love the game, thats for sure, but in the end, they are pros for a reason, and thats not "to be the best competitor", but "to win the shit out of that events".

Passion alone doesn't pay bills.


Thats ok, but you cant tell you are the best. Then you are a normal man who earns money. Funny to call those bw pros slaves. Evil Evil Kespa lol.
TheValley
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland56 Posts
February 16 2011 14:26 GMT
#354
ok i can understood that IrdA what to go back to US for whatever reason! but he still is in Korea and he gets 1330$ just for show up and play 3 games in studio and he don't want to! IT IS STUPID!!!!!
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
February 16 2011 14:31 GMT
#355
Bittersweet news indeed!

I'm happy for Idra because he's doing what he wants to do, and having a bigger part in the Western scene again.

But of course, I'm sad because that's one less foreigner I love rooting for in the GSL . Hopefully more will advance to Code S in March!

Best of luck, Idra! I haven't really been following tourneys outside the GSL, but now I might have to start doing so again! ^_^
TheXenocide1
Profile Joined January 2011
United States58 Posts
February 16 2011 14:33 GMT
#356
After watching some of Idra's stream I am not surprised he decided to move back. He was getting cheesed almost every game by the well-refined cheese of Korea because people knew that if they played him straight up, they would lose. Additionally, its tough to live in a place where you cannot speak the language. I remember one interview after a GSL where Idra was like "Ret was the only one who practiced with me" That sucks. If i were him i would be very lonely and feel that i was not living up to my full potential because i had very few practice partners and lived alone while everyone else is in a practice house.
I think it is a good move for western e-sports as well as for Idra's life. I am expecting either a mass exodus from Korea by foreigners or make it a place to go train because the money sucks there unless you get a top 4 finish in code S.
Idra is going to dominate everyone in the West which is great for me since he is my favorite pro-gamer
Fear is the Mind Killer
Escape
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada306 Posts
February 16 2011 14:33 GMT
#357
As an idra fan, I am very happy about this. can't wait to see him in more local tournaments.
lifecanwait
Profile Joined May 2010
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 14:36:28
February 16 2011 14:33 GMT
#358
Excuse me, but whotf cares about skill? Money makes the world go round, those guys earn their freakin' money by playing that game.
We are talking about monetary income. Noone will tell you "I give a shit about anyones skill but my own, less skilled opponents and comparable prizemoney means more money in the pocket, which is good. Playing Ex-Kaspa slaves for a shameful 1500 bucks in Code A is bullshit."

But that's what it comes down to. And on the long run the most skill will always be, where the most money can be made. Thats a fact. Greg didn't travel to Korea once because of the food beeing so fucking good, but because of the prizemoney thats so damn freakin' high down there.

Pros love the game, thats for sure, but in the end, they are pros for a reason, and thats not "to be the best competitor", but "to win the shit out of that events".

Passion alone doesn't pay bills.


For the most agree with you, but I think the fun-part of playing starcraft for a living should not be underestimated.
I think a lot of people do this mainly because they think it's more fun than anything else they could do to earn their money. But what will all the pro-gamers do when they are 30+ years old? Still playing computer 10 hours+ a day? Imho that would be kind of sad and as far as I am concerned it would not fullfill my life. Starcraft is a complex game that requires a lot of skill, but aren't you getting bored when you play more than maybe 4 hours a day? The maps are always same looking and the opportunities are principially limited (same units etc.).
I would like to ask some of the pro-gamers when they'd consider fun to actually stop and define playing starcraft as "work".
IdrA however not only wants to move to the West to win tournaments but also to make e-Sport grow and later on, if he can get a job in managing tournaments and stuff like that this would be awesome. I think with his experience from Korea he really could bring e-Sports to the next level in the West.
dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today
shappens
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)137 Posts
February 16 2011 14:43 GMT
#359
losing EPIC zerg is so sad...T.T
wherever you go, whatever you do, good luck buddy^ ^

Just show us nice games thru teamliquid site or youtube etc..

Bye~
timestep
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada73 Posts
February 16 2011 14:52 GMT
#360
GSL is going to die.
If the gracken is going to leave.

holy shit...
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