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Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
February 16 2011 11:12 GMT
#301
Damn,GSL wont be the same without some IdrA
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
February 16 2011 11:13 GMT
#302
Shame to see him leave but I guess it is better for him.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
February 16 2011 11:20 GMT
#303
that'll teach you to troll high-five idra!
Meh.
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
February 16 2011 11:27 GMT
#304
pretty lame :/ idra is like my favorite person to watch in gsl for all the drama and hype.

i cant really see a reason to move away from the biggest sc2 league when you are serious about sc2... even if there is a "big thing" starting in the US, do people really think it will outshine Korea?
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
Tesla12
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia71 Posts
February 16 2011 11:29 GMT
#305
well good luck in the future, as Artosis says!
"Divide et impera"
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
February 16 2011 11:29 GMT
#306
I'm a bit sad because its one less foreigner in the GSL, but its probably a really smart move from IdrA and I'm happy that the foreigner scene is growing like that.
Lynskey
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom26 Posts
February 16 2011 11:31 GMT
#307
I hope the admins don't mind me linking to offsite content, but I've written an article about this here. I think it's a really Big Thing this, although it's just one guy moving back home the fact it's coupled with the nasl rumours, MLG uber prize pool etc. it could be a bit of landmark moment. I'm certainly a bit excited!
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
February 16 2011 11:35 GMT
#308
On February 16 2011 20:27 jfourz wrote:
pretty lame :/ idra is like my favorite person to watch in gsl for all the drama and hype.

i cant really see a reason to move away from the biggest sc2 league when you are serious about sc2... even if there is a "big thing" starting in the US, do people really think it will outshine Korea?


He said he thought so in the interview with Artosis as well as SOTG and i don't doubt him. Take a look at who is getting their hand inside sc2 in the west. MLG just tied up with IMG which is owned by a billionaire and IMG handles most of the pro athletes and entertainers that is recognisable. Michael Jordan, David Beckham, Tiger Woods. All of these are managed by IMG if i'm not wrong.I might be wrong on some of the names but certainly the point stands.

And if EU and US really goes deep into this, of course it will be prestigious. They have had long long long history of developing prestige and injecting money into sport. UEFA champions league, NBA, NFL. The most prestigious and richest sport leagues in the world.

Sure Korea is the capital of esports for a while now, but the Korean SC2 scene does not look particularly hot. It is just sustained by one or two giant corporation. Even BW has a lot of issues and uncertainties with lawsuits and sponsors. Things are not going that well in the grassroot level. Whereas in US and EU, things are looking VERY well in the grassroot level. From day9 to husky, from weekly tournaments to lans. All parts of the community contributes. His assesment that the centre is gonna shift seems accurate.
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
February 16 2011 11:36 GMT
#309
With the NASL find and how great watching MLG was last season, I'm actually extremely excited about this. I know people have Korea as the only "real" place to play Starcraft, but I don't think it needs to be that way. Korea's dominance is due to infrastructure and if Western players want to compete, we need to focus on tournaments that are in the same country as our players. Seems reasonable to me. GL IdrA!
lucasesper
Profile Joined June 2010
Brazil181 Posts
February 16 2011 11:45 GMT
#310
Such an awkward timing to leave, with idra being in an easy group and gsl within days.

Not that money isn't important, but e-spots shouldn't be all about it. I mean, unless the difference in payoffs is huge between US and Korea, a player should focus on staying at where the skill and prestige are higher.

People got more excited when idra won against MVP in a ladder game than when he won MLG, for instance.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
February 16 2011 11:51 GMT
#311
I think this would be the worst decision he could make right now.

The truth is, it is all about skill, and by quitting GSL he will undoubtedly lose skill and with it popularity and potential earnings.

Idra needs to disperse illusions and keep playing in code S and training in Korea. When MLG day comes just come to the US, own and leave. I mean, really, how can you compare EG players I've never even heard of to MVP, MC, Nestea etc. etc.that he gets to play against in Korea?
This marks the decline of Idra. And I liked him, because he was a zerg at heart, like me
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
February 16 2011 11:52 GMT
#312
I feel bad for Artosis, now he's there alone again (I know Tasteless is there, but I feel like he has other friends). Glhf to Idra, it'll be cool to have him back here I guess.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 16 2011 11:54 GMT
#313
I think people do not see the big picture here. I was a huge Idra fan when he competed in the GSL (sorry Jinro). But if rumours about NASL are true, then it will take people like Idra to get it off the ground.

In a way, it's nice that GSL had more foreigners than before, but it would be even better if there were several high caliber leagues with comparable skill levels. And I don't think there are many people in NA atm that could draw crowds and play entertaining games like Idra.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
February 16 2011 11:59 GMT
#314
On February 16 2011 20:51 Reasonable wrote:
I think this would be the worst decision he could make right now.

The truth is, it is all about skill, and by quitting GSL he will undoubtedly lose skill and with it popularity and potential earnings.

Idra needs to disperse illusions and keep playing in code S and training in Korea. When MLG day comes just come to the US, own and leave. I mean, really, how can you compare EG players I've never even heard of to MVP, MC, Nestea etc. etc.that he gets to play against in Korea?
This marks the decline of Idra. And I liked him, because he was a zerg at heart, like me

Yea, the decision is a little odd. However, let us see what the announcements are. I don't think Idra will regret this decision, he seems to have reasons for this, maybe he is a little homesick too.
Flew
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom133 Posts
February 16 2011 11:59 GMT
#315

True, it's kinda sad that he's leaving the biggest SC2 league in the world, but maybe this'll turn out to be a brave and brilliant move, which will contribute to NA ( and hopefully European) leagues growing to match or even eclipse the popularity of the GSL.

Also, I can see how it would be better for his social life and help to keep his spirits up - he seems kinda down in interviews sometimes. I lived in Japan for a year, and I had a great time and made friends out there, but I look back now and realise that I was kinda isolated because I didn't speak the language fluently, and it made me become so distant from all my old friends.

I wish IdrA the best of luck, and I'm really excited about the future of esports in NA and Europe.
JustinMartin
Profile Joined November 2010
159 Posts
February 16 2011 12:00 GMT
#316
so there wont be new episodes of IMBALANCED with artosis and idra?
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
February 16 2011 12:01 GMT
#317
So no more IMBALANCED episodes for the next few months?
Always smile~
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
February 16 2011 12:03 GMT
#318
I imagine he would have a pretty easy time getting seeded back to code A, but this makes me sad =(

I sure hope we get another foreigner in Code S, we need more than just Jinro, as awesome as Jinro is.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 12:07:47
February 16 2011 12:03 GMT
#319
On February 16 2011 21:00 JustinMartin wrote:
so there wont be new episodes of IMBALANCED with artosis and idra?


On February 16 2011 21:01 Spekulatius wrote:
So no more IMBALANCED episodes for the next few months?


hivemind!? =)
Always smile~
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa987 Posts
February 16 2011 12:10 GMT
#320
On February 16 2011 20:31 Lynskey wrote:
I hope the admins don't mind me linking to offsite content, but I've written an article about this here. I think it's a really Big Thing this, although it's just one guy moving back home the fact it's coupled with the nasl rumours, MLG uber prize pool etc. it could be a bit of landmark moment. I'm certainly a bit excited!


Nice write-up and nice end of your text

I clearly support your link here!
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
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