On January 20 2011 05:43 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
For the people suggesting that they enclose the booths with doors and what not. Wouldn't that marginalize the air flow and lead to potential overheating, especially during longer stretches of play? Or are the computers outside the booth and connect to the player via long cables?

Somehow mankind has overcome this problem in houses and rooms. I'm sure GOM can somehow, some way find a way to mitigate this problem.

LittleAtari

Jordan1090 Posts

January 19 2011 23:41 GMT

#103

Jinro put himself out there by being honest. He probably knew that people would call him a cheater for it or undeserving of the win. It could even affect whether or not there should be a re-game. To be honest, this is the best situation that something like this could happen in. It was in a match that was a pretty big deal and it didn't affect the outcome of the game. Players always say that they can hear the commentators at public events, but no one ever makes really big changes.

EDIT: Like someone else said before, yea Jinro could've spoken directly to someone about the issue, but when you do something like announce it in an interview and get people talking, you have a better chance of something being done about the issue.

gregnog

United States289 Posts

January 19 2011 23:42 GMT

#104

Gotta say... that entire game came down to Jinro getting that 1 hp Marine into the bunker, which was 100% luck to begin with. I feel like if Jinro wasn't prepared for the 6 pool from the announcers, he might not have had the presence of mind during that micro battle to save that extra 1 hit. Hard to say, but its obvious it would have been at least somewhat different without the extra 20+ seconds of preparation Jinro had to prepare and think it over.

All you people saying it didn't effect anything are clearly biased fanboys. Don't show your ignorance saying this is not an issue.

In any other sport you are not allowed inside the huddle of the enemy team, you are not allowed to look into there play book, nothing of the sort.

LittleAtari

Jordan1090 Posts

January 19 2011 23:46 GMT

#105

On January 20 2011 08:42 gregnog wrote:
Gotta say... that entire game came down to Jinro getting that 1 hp Marine into the bunker, which was 100% luck to begin with. I feel like if Jinro wasn't prepared for the 6 pool from the announcers, he might not have had the presence of mind during that micro battle to save that extra 1 hit. Hard to say, but its obvious it would have been at least somewhat different without the extra 20+ seconds of preparation Jinro had to prepare and think it over.

All you people saying it didn't effect anything are clearly biased fanboys. Don't show your ignorance saying this is not an issue.

In any other sport you are not allowed inside the huddle of the enemy team, you are not allowed to look into there play book, nothing of the sort.

It was an all-in. There were a bunch of drones in his base. There isnt much else prep that you can give. When you see that, all there's left to do is survive as much as you can.

gregnog

United States289 Posts

January 19 2011 23:48 GMT

#106

I just wanted to mention Idra himself mentioned how you can hear through the booths weeks ago, on STOG. Him and Incontrol were talking about it.

ReaperX

Hong Kong1758 Posts

January 19 2011 23:49 GMT

#107

Jinro's awesome for confessing and GOM's awesome for admitting.

jackknight

United States51 Posts

January 20 2011 00:02 GMT

#108

On January 20 2011 03:25 Ancient.eu wrote:
If he wanted to address the issue he should have spoken with the officials after the game, let them know the situation and fix it, not say it in an interview, create doubt about the match and about Gom's professionalism.

If Jinro had waited and inform the GOM staff about the problem, you will still have people whining about how Jinro didn't confess sooner or the fact that he didn't mention it in the interview or he felt guilty that why he confessed late ...etc etc

Even if Jinro had first told the staff, do you believe that would not still cause doubt about the match and about GOM's professionalism?

I believe both GOM and Jinro handle the situation correctly. I doubt people who been criticizing Jinro would even confess at all if they were in the same situation. Remember, thinking you would act a certain way doesnt mean you will act that will.

AimlessAmoeba

Canada704 Posts

January 20 2011 00:08 GMT

#109

They said that no gamers filed a protest... I honestly thought it'd go to game 5 though, when the GG went down I was surprised that it was IdrA.

Goooo Jinro! The fact that he confessed to hearing it makes me love the guy even more. Ain't nothing gonna stop him now.

koppik

United States676 Posts

January 20 2011 00:08 GMT

#110

Yeah, like others said, active sound-cancelling like from Bose wouldn't work. Really, there's little do other than making walls thicker or adding some materials with high sound absorption. I suppose you can "get geometrical" as well, but that's tricky.

WarSong

Canada126 Posts

January 20 2011 00:09 GMT

#111

blizzard could take some queue's from gom, in this matter...extremely quick and to-the-point answer to a serious problem. interesting to note how most the responses in this thread, that i read at least, are fairly positive since people just want to know that the issue is being immediately addressed. we don't expect perfection; we DO expect transparency and prompt communication.

CooDu

Australia899 Posts

January 20 2011 00:10 GMT

#112

Great to see this addressed, well done Gom! Quality as always.

I think the second series last night more than made up for the first one! Always love seeing the new headphones Gom uses also

Good post!

kiy0

Portugal593 Posts

January 20 2011 00:19 GMT

#113

I keep reading posts and posts about meaningless speculation and interpretations so I'm gonna go ahead and post (yet freaking again):

When I heard the commentators cry out due to some poor soundproofing, I sent a scv out to confirm it.

This is an admission from the player himself that the soundproofing issue altered his original plan. From this point forward, any possible outcome of the match was completely turned over. The result doesn't matter...

I don't know about the whole GSL rules, but nevertheless the correct behaviour should have been to pause the game and report the situation to the referees.

BasedSwag

Algeria418 Posts

January 20 2011 00:24 GMT

#114

On January 20 2011 09:19 kiy0 wrote:
I keep reading posts and posts about meaningless speculation and interpretations so I'm gonna go ahead and post (yet freaking again):

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The only possible effect that the scouting SCV had on the game was a loss of some minute amount of minerals for Jinro because that SCV wasn't mining. The SCV didn't cause any alteration to how Jinro responded to the 6pool...

Jim7

United States154 Posts

January 20 2011 00:34 GMT

#115

Good to see it's being addressed and that it didn't affect the game. It could of been a lot worse had Jinro blocked his ramp, even if it were just part of his normal build.

Get it fixed and lets move on to some more great games!

ggrrg

Bulgaria2716 Posts

January 20 2011 00:34 GMT

#116

On January 20 2011 09:19 kiy0 wrote:
I keep reading posts and posts about meaningless speculation and interpretations so I'm gonna go ahead and post (yet freaking again):

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If anything Jinro's decision to send a scouting scv gave him a little disadvantage since he had one less unit to fight with when Idra's units came.
Pausing the game and reporting to the referees might have resulted in a rematch thus making it impossible for Idra to go with his initial plan. A rematch on a terran favored map would have been probably far better for Jinro than having to defend against a non-scouted 6-pool.

Furthermore, do you really believe that Jinro was the first player to ever hear anything outside the booth? You'd be quite delusional to do so... However, he was the first player to mention this issue.

As far as GOM is concerned, I am happy that they addressed the issue so fast after it became widely know. However, I could imagine that they knew about it for a while now and just decided not to change anything.

Sanguinarius

United States3427 Posts

January 20 2011 00:36 GMT

#117

Well, at least they are addressing the problem.

And its very good that Jinro said something, he didnt have to tell the truth.

aztrorisk

United States896 Posts

January 20 2011 00:36 GMT

#118

good think Jinro confessed it,

if he didn't, later accusations would arise. Jinro demonstrated that he had nothing to fear. Good man.

aztrorisk

United States896 Posts

January 20 2011 00:39 GMT

#119

On January 20 2011 08:38 Chill wrote:

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Somehow mankind has overcome this problem in houses and rooms. I'm sure GOM can somehow, some way find a way to mitigate this problem.

Actually, mankind hasn't overcome this problem. Soundproof rooms and only block sound up to a certain level. The decibels of the crowd and speakers would easily overcome the limit and the sound would be noticeable.

Torpedo.Vegas

United States1890 Posts

January 20 2011 00:40 GMT

#120

On January 20 2011 08:38 Chill wrote:

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Somehow mankind has overcome this problem in houses and rooms. I'm sure GOM can somehow, some way find a way to mitigate this problem.

Well, those booths do not look like the size of a home or your average room. I was thinking of including semi-loud fans providing background white noise to mitigate the heat of a fully enclosed box and maybe help the sound issue. Although this could impact the quality of the live viewing experience. But your input is duly noted.