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FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
January 20 2011 03:55 GMT
#141
honesty is best policy, way to go jinro A true sports person.

I dare say being on tilt because of an OOO noise is not an advantage, but more a disadvantage.

Bad luck to Idra, but he will live to fight another day in next seasons code S.
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Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
January 20 2011 03:55 GMT
#142
Let's assume that jinro did hear the "oooooh!" clear enough for him to notice it. It might be vague and not much to make out of, but it is an external interuption to the slightest extent, and that is just gomtv's incompetence. If they had done their job properly, this would never have happened. I mean, providing sound and undisturbed environment for the players should be high priority.

Yes, they should have tested it better, but it's also the players' responsibility to report these kinds of problems.
This is the 4th season of GSL, and Jinro's been the only one who spoke up. What does that tell you? Apparently Idra talked about it on SotG; he neglected to tell Gretech? Pretty stupid of him if you ask me.
Felby
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway81 Posts
January 20 2011 04:15 GMT
#143
how could he know it even was a rush?

commentators have freaked out countless times over cheerfuls and fans doing random stuff in the audience
devilshootsdevil
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada122 Posts
January 20 2011 04:38 GMT
#144
Wtf people actually demanded rematch? Silly. But yeah Jinro actually admitting was pretty awesome.
They mostly come at night, mostly...
Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
January 20 2011 04:55 GMT
#145
it's cool that they addressed it
out4blood
Profile Joined July 2010
United States313 Posts
January 20 2011 05:03 GMT
#146
With all these technical solutions to the sound-proofing, have we considered just telling the Korean announcers not to get so super-hyper?
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RESTRiCT
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada123 Posts
January 20 2011 05:06 GMT
#147
Wow, I'm surprised they addressed this. Glad to see it tho, good job Jinro <3!!
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
January 20 2011 05:17 GMT
#148
Thank you Jinro for being honest about the situation and also it's nice that Gom is responding positively as well. Hopefully this problem will never occur again after they change around with some equipment.
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Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
January 20 2011 05:44 GMT
#149
Hahaha I made a topic about sound-proofing some while back.. always thought the shouting was way to loud to not be heard into those small booths.

JinrO is a baller for admitting it. None of us would not react on the commentators doing a "oooh"... not doing anything would be an act itself and thus making us react to it either way.
However, as someone else said... who knows if some of the koreans have reacted to these sounds? Fourth GSL ever and this is the first time someone overheard something? My ass.
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No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 05:53:45
January 20 2011 05:53 GMT
#150
Good call by GomTV to address it, jinro IS a baller for revealing the problem, Idra is the biggest champ for not bitching for a RM when frankly even I feel like he deserves one.

ESPORTS!
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Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
January 20 2011 06:24 GMT
#151
Great of GOM to make a statement.
Noob3rt
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada114 Posts
January 20 2011 06:33 GMT
#152
Gom is a baller. :D
"What is life without happiness?"
OldSC2Guy
Profile Joined December 2010
United States8 Posts
January 20 2011 06:34 GMT
#153
So then --> GOM will repost the interview. Right?
Old guys can beat you at Bingo.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10328 Posts
January 20 2011 06:39 GMT
#154
Good call by GomTV to address it, jinro IS a baller for revealing the problem, Idra is the biggest champ for not bitching for a RM when frankly even I feel like he deserves one.

ESPORTS!


Yup, this is quite sweet honestly. Perhaps this also has to do with Idra respecting Jinro for being able to play macro Terran [well], when many people consider macro Terrans to be at a disadvantage versus a macroing Zerg?

Too bad I don't have the GOM ticket thing, can't watch what happened in that Jungle Basin match.

Also, haha sounds sort of funny hearing RM in the SC2 scene. "XXX has left the game!" "ugh, RM please gogogo!" xD
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crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
January 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#155
On January 20 2011 02:42 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 02:41 ShyRamen wrote:
On January 20 2011 02:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
well lets be honest it didnt help him, he scouted a bit earlier, but missed the lings/drones on the way only seeing 1 drone going, which means nothing. the first he knew of it was when the lings were in his base


in this case doesn't matter.

but imagine if some other times korean players heard units/build orders.

they need to be 100% sure nothing effects their gameplay


thing is there have been issues since season 1.... but the only time it gets any attention is when the 2 foreigners are duking it out and can't understand what is being said anyways ;p

and I'm sure idra knows that he didn't lose because jinro heard an "oooh" and if he is that petty then really he needs to see someone about anger management. If jinro had immediately walled in, i would be on idra's side, but he didn't and the commentators had nothing to do with Jinro winning the game



..... wtf he needs to see someone for anger management. IdrA barely never make any facial expressions
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
January 20 2011 07:05 GMT
#156
On January 20 2011 04:07 CanucksJC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 04:06 Coramoor wrote:
On January 20 2011 04:00 CanucksJC wrote:
I thought Jinro saw the reinforcing lings, but I guess by that point, it was too late anyways.

Also, you can't really argue that Jinro hearing the commentators didn't have an effect in the game. Like he said, he canceled the marine, whether or not it was on purpose, and that messed up IdrA's timing to surround. The marine therefore survived, and IdrA lost the game.

I'd argue that that's pretty game changing although Jinro didn't wall-in right away.

Tough break for IdrA IMO.


he said in the interview that he cancelled the marine while trying to cancel the 2nd barracks while the drones and lings were already in his base(rewatch the vod, the cancel for the barracks is about 10 seconds after the lings and drones get into the base... that's just a misclick, in no way did knowing about a 6pool from crowd noise affect his decision there

Actually now that I think about it, all this was after he saw the lings. scratch what i said


Well it may not have made a difference to the end result in this game, but the fact that he heard the crowd noise and changed his scouting pattern means that the crowd noise definitely affected the game in some way, which is obviously something that needs addressing.
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 20 2011 07:18 GMT
#157
On January 20 2011 03:20 s.a.y wrote:
Jinro is a baller for confessing.



I agree with this as well - Leta to my knowledge never came out with a statement when he faced accusations. Super manner by jinro, and willing to accept the consequences
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
January 20 2011 07:35 GMT
#158
On January 20 2011 09:53 Nocthem wrote:
Jinro said: "i'll be honnest, at like 1st second of the game music goes down and I hear the commentaros go: "OOOOOHH !!" i'm like okay i'm gonna scout. then my scout didn't see anything because i missed the line of ........."

kinda weird you know... Some may think it didn't changed anything... I believe it changed the issue... even if he didn't saw it... I seriously do think it changed something... BUT


Did it affect Jinro's mind? Hell sure.

If you tell your friend: "I play normal, 6pool me and I try to react accordingly" it will be different when you play ladder and someone suddenly 6pools you.
Sure, Jinro might have already discarded the possibilty of the 6pool when it actually hit him, but even those earlier thoughts about it have an effect and might made him a bit less surprised.

Of course this is just argumenting for the sake of the argument. That 0.0005sec or whatever faster reaction time would never change the outcome of the game. Especially since he cannot spent too much time thinking about "Oh, what could that OOOOOOH mean" (the korean commentators like to go OOOH about signs a lot).

Jinro Baller.
IdrA Baller.
Gom Baller.

Though we actually should look what booth Jinro played in, and look who else played from that booth (seems to be booth specific, because the speaker was directly behind it) and analyse the play from every player in that booth! Or we shouldnt
GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
January 20 2011 07:50 GMT
#159
GOGO GOM :D
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Mintastic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States166 Posts
January 20 2011 08:12 GMT
#160
Since this is out and all, can we have Jinro's interview back? I didn't get to see it
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